*** The Book of Boba Fett *** (Discussion Thread) Wed Dec 29 - Feb 9
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Red Five
11:16p, 2/2/22
In reply to The Porkchop Express
helloimustbegoing said:

Red Five said:

helloimustbegoing said:

Who else first thought Vanth's Deputy was James Roday from Psych?

My wife said this instantly when he first appeared.
And then Gus could have come out and said, "You heard about Alderaan? That's messed up."

Hello, my name is Deputy Scott, and this is my partner, Boutros Boutros Palpatine.
fig96
12:30a, 2/3/22
Just finished and will read through all this tomorrow, for now I'm going to sleep with "Think it through" stuck in my head.
AliasMan02
12:41a, 2/3/22
Well. That was dope.

An incredibly undervalued aspect of Dawson as Ahsoka is she really has the mannerisms down. She stands like her, walks like her. She delivered a line or two that, while she obviously does sound like Eckstein, she carries it just right.
Madmarttigan
12:58a, 2/3/22
In reply to AliasMan02
AliasMan02 said:

Well. That was dope.

An incredibly undervalued aspect of Dawson as Ahsoka is she really has the mannerisms down. She stands like her, walks like her. She delivered a line or two that, while she obviously does sound like Eckstein, she carries it just right.


As long as the writing isn't terrible I think she will totally nail her series and it's the one I'm most excited about.
Dro07
12:59a, 2/3/22
In reply to XXXVII
XXXVII said:

Brian Earl Spilner said:

If they get Luke and Han together in the same scene, they'll have fixed one of the biggest complaints from TFA.


They need to do something in this series which takes a big dump all over Ep 7-9 to make it like those movies never happen..


You mean like time travel? Cuz that's canon and the person who has done it will be in the Ahsoka show
DukeMu
1:35a, 2/3/22
In reply to chase128
chase128 said:

After seeing this episode, what happens with Luke's Jedi academy in the sequels makes me even more pissed off.
Just have Jon Favreau redo 7, 8, 9.
TCTTS
1:52a, 2/3/22
Imagine the potential of the current overall storyline if the sequel trilogy didn't exist.

Instead, as is, all I could think last night when I saw the temple being built was that Leia and Han's assh*le kid is eventually going to burn it down, kill all of his fellow students, and then Luke is going to turn into a bitter old recluse.

But what if we knew none of that was coming? Imagine the possibilities and the hope we'd have right now.

Granted, I still think they can pull off something incredible and Avengers-esque, with the reclaiming of Mandalore, Ashoka's story, etc, with it all crisscrossing/leading to some massive, MCU-style climax, one that will ultimately *feel* like a "replacement" sequel story of sorts. It just kind of sucks knowing there's a "cap" of sorts and that eventually all of this leads to Luke losing all hope, the dumb First Order, and f/cking Palpatine returning.
TCTTS
2:35a, 2/3/22
SpreadsheetAg
6:13a, 2/3/22
In reply to TCTTS
They could just ignore the Sequels and play it off like "difficult to see. Always in motion, is the future" ... the ST was just one possible future ; not THE future
Atreides Ornithopter
6:19a, 2/3/22
In reply to SpreadsheetAg
SpreadsheetAg said:

They could just ignore the Sequels and play it off like "difficult to see. Always in motion, is the future" ... the ST was just one possible future ; not THE future


It's a future that Grogu sees that "might" happen
jokershady
6:43a, 2/3/22
In reply to TCTTS
Can't we somehow revisit what we saw at the end of Rebels??? The time changing wolves chamber deal that Ashoka technically should know about???

Hell it's canon so why not??? Come on Filoni make it happen!!!!
BenTheGoodAg
7:08a, 2/3/22
In reply to SpreadsheetAg
SpreadsheetAg said:

They could just ignore the Sequels and play it off like "difficult to see. Always in motion, is the future" ... the ST was just one possible future ; not THE future


I can just imagine the Disney board meeting

Marvel Executive - you know you can just call it another universe, right?

Star Wars Executive - You can do that?

Marvel Executive - Sure! Anyone remember Hulk in 2003?

JJ Abrams: I loved that movie!

Star Wars Executive: Who let you in here?! Shoo! Shoo!
Duncan Idaho
7:49a, 2/3/22
In reply to jokershady
jokershady said:

Can't we somehow revisit what we saw at the end of Rebels??? The time changing wolves chamber deal that Ashoka technically should know about???

Hell it's canon so why not??? Come on Filoni make it happen!!!!

Who cares about that, I want more of the hyperspace whales. The rebels could train them like dogs/dolphins with bombs on their backs but to do the holdo maneuver.
The Porkchop Express
8:05a, 2/3/22
In reply to TCTTS
TCTTS said:

Imagine the potential of the current overall storyline if the sequel trilogy didn't exist.

Instead, as is, all I could think last night when I saw the temple being built was that Leia and Han's assh*le kid is eventually going to burn it down, kill all of his fellow students, and then Luke is going to turn into a bitter old recluse.

But what if we knew none of that was coming? Imagine the possibilities and the hope we'd have right now.

Granted, I still think they can pull off something incredible and Avengers-esque, with the reclaiming of Mandalore, Ashoka's story, etc, with it all crisscrossing/leading to some massive, MCU-style climax, one that will ultimately *feel* like a "replacement" sequel story of sorts. It just kind of sucks knowing there's a "cap" of sorts and that eventually all of this leads to Luke losing all hope, the dumb First Order, and f/cking Palpatine returning.
But that's only true for the Luke/Anakin story. Star Wars had thousands of years of stories if you're willing to move past the one that started 45 years ago. There are stories set thousands of years ago that started with one of the greatest, most replayable video games of all time. There are ones set 200 years in the future with Cade Skywalker fighting against the darkness as the last of his line. There are literally hundreds of books, "cannon" or not, that tell incredible stories - some even slightly better than "The Approaching Storm", and hundreds of comic book series.

You're a busy dude, but if you haven't watched Clone Wars and Rebel and Bad Batch, you're just limiting yourself from some amazing Star Wars stories that make what's going on right now that much more awesome.

Not to mention, in the right now of Mando/Fett, it's 9 years ABY which means it's 25 years before the first scene of The Force Awakens. TWENTY FIVE YEARS of ADVENTURES that are a totally blank slate right now. Twenty-five years of adventures for younger Luke, Han and Leia if they want to go there. Ahsoka and Thrawn and the Fett, and Grogu and Bo Katan and Ezra and Sabine. Luke Skywalker might save the galaxy 15 times between the end of ROTJ and the beginning of TFA and we'll get to see it play out across a ton of different formats.

This isn't a rant on you TC, I just happened to reply to your post. But regardless of what happens in the sequel trilogy and whether you like them or not, Star Wars is a massive blank slate that doesn't need to have anything shoe-horned in to any story, other than keeping a few characters alive for the next 2-1/2 decades. You know, in 25 years I'll be 73 and probably need to piss 3 times a night, but that doesn't mean I'm not excited about the next 2-1/2 decades of stories in my life. It's only BECAUSE of the sequels that all this great stuff is currently happening on the small screen.
redline248
8:32a, 2/3/22
I'm with tctts. Every time someone wants to do something with Luke, they are forced to do it with a predetermined destination. And a sh-t one at that.

And yes, I agree there is so much more to explore. Still, Luke is what most people care about. Does anyone care about Rey?
jokershady
8:35a, 2/3/22
holy crap i just realized something.....there's a line in this episode that makes the decision that Luke presents Grogu at the end make so much more sense....

when Luke first tells Grogu, "A short time for you, is a lifetime for someone else," I kind of just casted that line aside because I was so distracted on what was going in front of me for this episode.

But holy hell that hits hard now! The species that Grogu is (do we still not have a name for that?) ages so slowly that Luke could literally spend his entire life training him and it amount to nothing because of how slowly he ages and that it could possibly take multiple jedi masters to train him. So rather than possibly waste all that time he decides to give him a choice right off the bat because of how slowly his species develops.

Good lord how did i not pick up on that at first?
CoachRTM
8:39a, 2/3/22
In reply to jokershady
I had a similar realization, but went a different way.

Mando is going to die of old age while he's still essentially a child. "Attachment" is an issue Grogu is going to need to navigate no matter his choice.
powerbelly
8:42a, 2/3/22
In reply to CoachRTM
CoachRTM said:

I had a similar realization, but went a different way.

Mando is going to die of old age while he's still essentially a child. "Attachment" is an issue Grogu is going to need to navigate no matter his choice.
This is how I took it.
Saxsoon
8:43a, 2/3/22
In reply to The Porkchop Express
helloimustbegoing said:

Watched it with the whole family tonight. They watched both seasons of Mando with me but none have gotten interested in this one until now.

Didn't notice the first time that they had the Krayt Dragon's ribcage in the bar in Mos Pelgo/Freetown.

If I could have captured the look on my daughter's face when Luke said the lightsaber had belonged to his Master Yoda, I would never have another sad day in my entire life.

I am so enamored with Rosario Dawson as Ahsoka. Her little interaction with R2-D2 was so great.


Rosario is stunning in the role. Her and Luke interacting had me bawling
jackie childs
8:47a, 2/3/22
In reply to Saxsoon
Saxsoon said:

helloimustbegoing said:

Watched it with the whole family tonight. They watched both seasons of Mando with me but none have gotten interested in this one until now.

Didn't notice the first time that they had the Krayt Dragon's ribcage in the bar in Mos Pelgo/Freetown.

If I could have captured the look on my daughter's face when Luke said the lightsaber had belonged to his Master Yoda, I would never have another sad day in my entire life.

I am so enamored with Rosario Dawson as Ahsoka. Her little interaction with R2-D2 was so great.


Rosario is stunning in the role. Her and Luke interacting had me bawling
i thought it was funny when she said he reminded her of his father. i think she clearly meant it as a compliment and luke was like "wtf?"
jackie childs
8:50a, 2/3/22
In reply to TCTTS
TCTTS said:

Imagine the potential of the current overall storyline if the sequel trilogy didn't exist.

Instead, as is, all I could think last night when I saw the temple being built was that Leia and Han's assh*le kid is eventually going to burn it down, kill all of his fellow students, and then Luke is going to turn into a bitter old recluse.

But what if we knew none of that was coming? Imagine the possibilities and the hope we'd have right now.

Granted, I still think they can pull off something incredible and Avengers-esque, with the reclaiming of Mandalore, Ashoka's story, etc, with it all crisscrossing/leading to some massive, MCU-style climax, one that will ultimately *feel* like a "replacement" sequel story of sorts. It just kind of sucks knowing there's a "cap" of sorts and that eventually all of this leads to Luke losing all hope, the dumb First Order, and f/cking Palpatine returning.
one of the Ringerverse pods was talking about how cool it would be to see a spinoff of Luke's jedi academy. and yeah, it would have been really cool, if we didn't know badly that ended.
The Porkchop Express
9:05a, 2/3/22
In reply to CoachRTM
CoachRTM said:

I had a similar realization, but went a different way.

Mando is going to die of old age while he's still essentially a child. "Attachment" is an issue Grogu is going to need to navigate no matter his choice.
It makes you think about Yoda telling Luke about his visions and "old friends long gone". To us, that makes us think about Obi-Wan, or after the prequels, Qui-Gon or Mace Windu or Ki-Adi Mundi or even little Yaddle. For Yoda, it could mean thousands of Jedi, thousands of non-Jedi, all gone and moved on except for him.

I just finished watching LOTR with my daughter and it makes me think of the vision Elrond gives Arwen of what her life with Aragorn would be like - happiness and children, and his death while she lives on and on, outliving her own children and grandchildren and basically everyone she'd ever care about.

We assume Mando will take up another profession at some point, like leader of Mandalore, but Luke doesn't know that. Giving Grogu back to a bounty hunter, he might get killed in the next 6 weeks and then Grogu's an orphan or a captive or a pet.
AgfromHOU
9:20a, 2/3/22
In reply to redline248
redline248 said:

Does anyone care about Rey?


Red Five
9:22a, 2/3/22
In reply to jackie childs
jackie childs said:

Saxsoon said:

helloimustbegoing said:

Watched it with the whole family tonight. They watched both seasons of Mando with me but none have gotten interested in this one until now.

Didn't notice the first time that they had the Krayt Dragon's ribcage in the bar in Mos Pelgo/Freetown.

If I could have captured the look on my daughter's face when Luke said the lightsaber had belonged to his Master Yoda, I would never have another sad day in my entire life.

I am so enamored with Rosario Dawson as Ahsoka. Her little interaction with R2-D2 was so great.


Rosario is stunning in the role. Her and Luke interacting had me bawling
i thought it was funny when she said he reminded her of his father. i think she clearly meant it as a compliment and luke was like "wtf?"
For her to just casually toss that line out there, I have to think they have had more and deeper conversations about Anakin. I really want to see those conversations.
PatAg
9:22a, 2/3/22
In reply to Red Five
Red Five said:

helloimustbegoing said:

Red Five said:

helloimustbegoing said:

Who else first thought Vanth's Deputy was James Roday from Psych?

My wife said this instantly when he first appeared.
And then Gus could have come out and said, "You heard about Alderaan? That's messed up."

Hello, my name is Deputy Scott, and this is my partner, Boutros Boutros Palpatine.
They're not laser swords, they're light sabers.

"I've heard it both ways"
Atreides Ornithopter
9:23a, 2/3/22
The real issue with "the choice" for me is that we unfortunately do know as least something of the outcome.

In less than 25 years kylo has a bad dream and stupid luke overreacts. Then everyone dead.

So our choices are

Grogu gets killed here

Grogu had already left
Red Five
9:25a, 2/3/22
In reply to Atreides Ornithopter
Arrakis ecologist said:

The real issue with "the choice" for me is that we unfortunately do know as least something of the outcome.

In less than 25 years kylo has a bad dream and stupid luke overreacts. Then everyone dead.

So our choices are

Grogu gets killed here

Grogu had already left
To be fair, Grogu already survived one destruction of a Jedi temple by a far more overwhelming force than Kylo Ren. I don't think it's fair to assume he wouldn't survive this time.

edit to add: I know it wasn't likely Grogu's efforts that save him, just saying there is no reason to ever assume "everyone dies" with things like this.
Atreides Ornithopter
9:32a, 2/3/22
In reply to Red Five
He survived the first one because Palpatine/Empire wanted to USE him. Kylo didn't care.

And just having the assumption of not knowing is not how they are going to take this story. He is most likely not there. As to WHY he left? that is the question. Was it now, was it in 10 years when he is 6?


Ron Murkundy
9:33a, 2/3/22
I'm interested to see if the N1 starfighter remains Mando's ride. I assume it will, due to the modified astromech port which will almost certainly become the Grogu port.

It's just such a departure from "customized" starships in Star Wars. We have almost exclusively had clunkier-looking ships that have some special modifications to make them effective starfighters. Classic ships like the Falcon, Razor Crest, Slave I (and Outrider and Moldy Crow in Legends) are beloved and fantastic starfighters that don't look like starfighters. I don't see the N1 being as embraced.

Luke's X-Wing is iconic, but doesn't stand out from others of its kind. Poe's X-Wing was a lame attempt to make him stand out. Am I missing any others that break the mold?
Atreides Ornithopter
9:38a, 2/3/22
In reply to Ron Murkundy
Vader's Tie Fighter
Red Five
9:40a, 2/3/22
In reply to Ron Murkundy
Ron Murkundy said:

We have almost exclusively had clunkier-looking ships that have some special modifications to make them effective starfighters. Classic ships like the Falcon, Razor Crest, Slave I (and Outrider and Moldy Crow in Legends) are beloved and fantastic starfighters that don't look like starfighters. I don't see the N1 being as embraced.
They don't look like star fighters because they are light freighters/gunships. They are functionally different types of ships.
powerbelly
9:48a, 2/3/22
In reply to Ron Murkundy
Ron Murkundy said:

I'm interested to see if the N1 starfighter remains Mando's ride. I assume it will, due to the modified astromech port which will almost certainly become the Grogu port.

It's just such a departure from "customized" starships in Star Wars. We have almost exclusively had clunkier-looking ships that have some special modifications to make them effective starfighters. Classic ships like the Falcon, Razor Crest, Slave I (and Outrider and Moldy Crow in Legends) are beloved and fantastic starfighters that don't look like starfighters. I don't see the N1 being as embraced.

Luke's X-Wing is iconic, but doesn't stand out from others of its kind. Poe's X-Wing was a lame attempt to make him stand out. Am I missing any others that break the mold?
FYI, those aren't star-fighters.
Ron Murkundy
9:59a, 2/3/22
True, they are not starfighters in the literal sense, but they filled that role for their respective pilots. The Falcon in ROTJ sure looked like it played the same role as the X-Wings and A-Wings it flew with.
Orome
10:03a, 2/3/22
Theoretical question. If they just scrapped episodes 7-9 and rewrote them, they'd have to give it over to the Favreau, Filoni, Kasdan and BDH(?), right? Who would y'all want to see, and in what roles?
Brian Earl Spilner
10:05a, 2/3/22
Anyone think this might set up the Obi-Wan show, retroactively? Maybe a mention of the syndicate that used to run things during the Empire?
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