The Porkchop Express said:
Jurassic World is a fun movie, despite lots of really dumb stuff, and proved Chris Pratt can carry a movie by just being himself. Also there were Ankylosaurses in it, and I love those.
After that I guess I'd put the Lost World second even though it feels like it's 95% at night. Pete Postelwaithe's performance is from the Rewatchables - actor who appears to be in a completely different movie.
I never have seen Fallen Kingdom all the way through. The last one, I saw in the theater with my daughter, and I know the OGs were in it, but I can't remember what they were doing. I remember total suspension of all rules of science for surviving a plane crash and Chris Pratt swimming under ice for a few minutes.
Most of the movies since the original and some of JW have done a terrible job of letting the dinosaurs be themselves. That tiny shot of the landscape at the end of The Lost World is what 50% of the movie should be, dinos being dinos.
I think you and I had this discussion earlier in the thread.TCTTS said:The Porkchop Express said:
Jurassic World is a fun movie, despite lots of really dumb stuff, and proved Chris Pratt can carry a movie by just being himself. Also there were Ankylosaurses in it, and I love those.
After that I guess I'd put the Lost World second even though it feels like it's 95% at night. Pete Postelwaithe's performance is from the Rewatchables - actor who appears to be in a completely different movie.
I never have seen Fallen Kingdom all the way through. The last one, I saw in the theater with my daughter, and I know the OGs were in it, but I can't remember what they were doing. I remember total suspension of all rules of science for surviving a plane crash and Chris Pratt swimming under ice for a few minutes.
Most of the movies since the original and some of JW have done a terrible job of letting the dinosaurs be themselves. That tiny shot of the landscape at the end of The Lost World is what 50% of the movie should be, dinos being dinos.
Right there with you. I mentioned this the other day, but despite it being the last one I saw, not even two years ago, I can hardly remember anything about it. Absolutely nothing about it sticks.
Cmon, Hollywood! Don't diss Diego like that!TCTTS said:
Despite its many flaws, and its unfortunate diversion from the book, I'll take The Lost World over Jurassic World, the latter of which is still so sterile and bland to me (save for the final act, which I do genuinely enjoy). Yes, gymnastics girl and the T-Rex/San Fran sequence are ridiculous, but at least TLW retains a sense of adventure, is mostly fun and thrilling throughout, with a couple of action sequences that are better than anything JW has to offer (the cliff sequence, specifically). I don't think JW is bad, necessarily, if anything, I just can't bring my self to pick Trevorrow over Spielberg.
TCTTS said:
"In talks" is trade speak for "committed, just ironing out the details of the contract." It's extremely rare for someone who is "in talks" to either back out of or not get the job. It means it's basically a done deal, it just hasn't been officially announced by the studio yet.
For whatever reason, trades also always speak in the present. Even though Koepp's script is basically done, and he's been working for months, Koepp is still technically/currently engaged in the act of returning. It's the same thing when an actor is announced for a role, and is either currently filming or they've already filmed, but we're just now learning about it. "[Actor] is set to play..."
In short, by the time any of this news gets to us, a massive amount has already happened behind the scenes. Specifically, in this instance, again, Koepp has been writing for months, Leitch has read the script, and has already had multiple conversations with not only Universal, but Spielberg as well. All in addition to whatever other prep/storyboards/etc can be done.
EXCLU: The search for a new JURASSIC WORLD director are back on as talks between Universal and David Leitch break down https://t.co/qdtCiHVpSl
— Justin Kroll (@krolljvar) February 9, 2024
TCTTS said:TCTTS said:
"In talks" is trade speak for "committed, just ironing out the details of the contract." It's extremely rare for someone who is "in talks" to either back out of or not get the job. It means it's basically a done deal, it just hasn't been officially announced by the studio yet.
For whatever reason, trades also always speak in the present. Even though Koepp's script is basically done, and he's been working for months, Koepp is still technically/currently engaged in the act of returning. It's the same thing when an actor is announced for a role, and is either currently filming or they've already filmed, but we're just now learning about it. "[Actor] is set to play..."
In short, by the time any of this news gets to us, a massive amount has already happened behind the scenes. Specifically, in this instance, again, Koepp has been writing for months, Leitch has read the script, and has already had multiple conversations with not only Universal, but Spielberg as well. All in addition to whatever other prep/storyboards/etc can be done.
Welp.EXCLU: The search for a new JURASSIC WORLD director are back on as talks between Universal and David Leitch break down https://t.co/qdtCiHVpSl
— Justin Kroll (@krolljvar) February 9, 2024
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But more interesting was Universal's new Jurassic World movie losing director David Leitch. The surprising news came only a few days after we and others wrote about him being in talks to tackle the dinos.
What happened?
Part of the problem is that Universal is so far along on the project that Leitch would essentially have been more of a shooter than someone who could have really put his stamp on the film.
"There's not enough time to work with new ideas," one source told us of the film, which has a script by David Koepp and an ambitious July 2, 2025 release date. According to another source, the producers have already done some dino design work and soft prep on the movie.
But we can see why the film was attractive for someone like Leitch in the first place. It was going to lean into action territory (one source described it as having an Escape from New York vibe, but a Universal insider said that was not true. Well, what about the idea of weaponized dinosaurs? The insider said no.)
Either way, Universal will be looking for a new director ASAP.
...scoop via @HeatVisionBlog newsletter: THE CONJURING 4 scares up a director...and it's nun (2) of your business. Also: why did David Leitch leave JURASSIC? https://t.co/FztaqHpc1b
— Borys Kit (@Borys_Kit) February 9, 2024
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This morning, Deadline's Justin Kroll reported that David Leitch's talks to direct Universal and Amblin's next Jurassic movie fell through, as the parties involved couldn't see eye to eye in terms of the creative vision of the film.
We often hear about creative differences, but I'm told there was more to it than that in this case.
Remember the story I told you earlier this week about Legendary and how it was excised from the franchise after overstepping its role following the success of Jurassic World? Well, pretty much the same thing happened here!
I'm told that before there was even a deal in place, Kelly McCormick, who is Leitch's producing partner at 87North, began meddling with the film's budget and fired the film's line producer this week.
That line producer has worked with executive producer Steven Spielberg and producer Frank Marshall for a while, and when word got back to the two of them, they were upset - and according to sources, that's when the talks turned sour, as the two of them aren't fond of firing old friends.
I'm told that this is not McCormick's first time making waves, as she is also said to have lobbied against Antoine Fuqua receiving a P.G.A. credit on Bullet Train, which ruffled some feathers. Word is that she's starting to develop a reputation among execs, who are growing weary of her meddling ways.
Of course, the moral of the story is this - no matter who you are, you don't cross Spielberg and Marshall. Period.
Meanwhile, I already told you that Universal and Amblin are looking for a "shooter" given the project's ultra-tight timeline, which lines up with what THR's Heat Vision newsletter reported today.
The trade claims that Universal is so far along on the project - with producers already having done some dino design work and soft prep - that Leitch felt there wasn't enough time to put his stamp on the film, which is expected to "lean into action territory." Of course, Leitch knew he'd be under a time crunch when his talks first leaked - which explains why sources came forward with the real story.
While Universal goes way back with Leitch, by contrast, Spielberg and Marshall do not, and while they were fans of his kinetic visual aesthetic, they also weren't about to let him and McCormick call the shots on their baby. They want someone who will, for the most part, do what they're told, color in the lines, and ultimately service their vision.
As I explained, I didn't love this hire in the first place, as Leitch's resume (and his sledgehammer approach) never inspired confidence in me as far as this franchise is concerned. A horror director would make more sense to me if they're looking for something a bit more gritty than the recent trilogy.
Part of me wishes Spielberg would step behind the camera himself for this one, though I imagine that this job is going to go to either a slick young director (a la Trevorrow) or a "name" who needs a hit and is willing to rush to make a release date.
Leitch certainly isn't in that position, as Universal is bullish on his upcoming Ryan Gosling-Emily Blunt movie The Fall Guy, and remains so even though the planned reunion on Jurassic World didn't work out.
While some industry observers have pointed to directors such as Justin Lin and Travis Knight as filmmakers who the studio trusts, and Spielberg obviously goes way back with Robert Zemeckis, I have two other names for Universal to consider - Michael Sarnoski, whose A Quiet Place prequel looks great (see below) and my dark horse pick, Ilya Naishuller, who directed the Bob Odenkirk action movie Nobody. He may not be as big a name as Leitch, but he can deliver visceral action sequences and would likely follow the program.
Stay tuned, as I expect Universal will find a replacement next week, seeing as how they need to get moving on this one yesterday if they want to have it ready for release by next July…
TONIGHT on THE INSNEIDER: Tom Cruise circling role in Quentin Tarantino's final film. Plus, the REAL reason that David Leitch's JURASSIC talks fell apart, and more of my thoughts on the COYOTE VS. ACME situation...https://t.co/TUJSOaOJx3
— Jeff Sneider (@TheInSneider) February 10, 2024
Jurassic Park: Linux, the new DistributionThe Porkchop Express said:Battlestar JurassicaOrnithopter said:The Porkchop Express said:InterJurassic PlanetaryQuad Dog said:
Just remake other movies with a Jurassic theme.
Aliens: Jurassic Hunters - hunt and kill a genetically engineered dinosaur.
Many: Jurassic Man - court room drama trying to prove a dino/man hybrid has the rights of a man.
Ocean's 11: Jurassic Heist - heist movie too steal a competitors DNA code.
Terminator: Jurassic Future - a robot T Rex travels back to the past to kill Chris Pratt.
Kids movie: Jurassic Coat - a lady wants to skin 101 dinos for a new coat, only a group of kids can stop her.
Jurassic 5: Concrete Schoolyard
What we know about the 2025 JURASSIC WORLD film:
— Jurassic Outpost (@JurassicOutpost) February 11, 2024
- Koepp's script is in great shape & is locked
- Dino & pre-prod. design work has begun
- The film is smaller scale & more action-focused
- No militarized dinos
- Conflicting reports that the story has 'Escape from New York' vibes pic.twitter.com/wJfYBHXbRl
While the original is still one of my favorite movies of all time, after reading the book it always kind of disappointed me how they killed Muldoon off in the film and really neutered his character. He was awesome in the book, like something for a modern day Daniel Craig.Daveintx said:
Is it wrong to want a series that reboots it all, and follows the book?
Getting the river chase, being trapped in the hotel, and a less than grandpa Hammond would be nice
Cinco Ranch Aggie said:
If a dinosaur walks out with an eye patch, I'm either out right away or if I've been drinking enough, I'm in.
Gigem314 said:While the original is still one of my favorite movies of all time, after reading the book it always kind of disappointed me how they killed Muldoon off in the film and really neutered his character. He was awesome in the book, like something for a modern day Daniel Craig.Daveintx said:
Is it wrong to want a series that reboots it all, and follows the book?
Getting the river chase, being trapped in the hotel, and a less than grandpa Hammond would be nice
While I love the movie, the most disappointing part was turning Hammond from a genuinely evil capitalist into a well intentioned loving grandpa.Sapper Redux said:Gigem314 said:While the original is still one of my favorite movies of all time, after reading the book it always kind of disappointed me how they killed Muldoon off in the film and really neutered his character. He was awesome in the book, like something for a modern day Daniel Craig.Daveintx said:
Is it wrong to want a series that reboots it all, and follows the book?
Getting the river chase, being trapped in the hotel, and a less than grandpa Hammond would be nice
Gennaro, too. The book version turned out to be a bad ass. The movie combined him with Ed Regis.
Gareth Edwards to direct new JURASSIC WORLD movie https://t.co/FlnMGLGkDu
— Justin Kroll (@krolljvar) February 21, 2024
Edwards visuals plus a Koepp script and we could be cooking! https://t.co/h3W8cSlPuT
— Brian Duffield (@BrianDuffield) February 21, 2024
Gareth Edwards is going to make a very visually compelling Jurassic film.
— Chris (@ChrisLikesDinos) February 21, 2024
He knows how to work with VFX, and knows the importance of getting as much real on camera as possible even if it changes in post. If this script sings and spells out the characters, this could work.
I hear the script for the new Jurassic World movie is actually good this time
— Daniel Richtman (@DanielRPK) February 21, 2024
