To piggy back on some of this, Rey is another area where I felt really let down by this movie. They did such a great job at build the character in TFA and Ridley does such an amazing job making Rey even more dynamic that the fact her role were pretty much pointless for this movie was really a downer. It seemed like the character was just going through the motions the entire movie, she needed to be trained...poof, you're trained...she needed to find out who her parents were....poof, here's your parents, they're nobody....she needs to find her place in the universe...poof, you're now the last Jedi congrats. All of these big moments in the character's evolution that should have been emotional moments to define the film felt like they were an after thought to a scene the director wanted us to get to (gave us the knowledge, because we as the audience needed to know....I call it the Severus Snape principle, giving a key plot point in the most random, out of context and/or off handed way possible).tremble said:
Don't get me wrong, I love the characters. I think they've all been phenomenally casted and are really carrying the weight of a trilogy where the story is IMO falling very flat.
Rey being "World's Greatest" at using the force, learning lightsabers for Dummy's in 2 weeks, piloting the Falcon like Han Solo could only dream, etc. would be incredibly grating if Ridley didn't play her with such an incredible touch.
I also think Driver's performance as Ren is giving us one of the most compelling character arcs in the entire series.
I'm just not buying the connections between them all at this point. You're telling me that the First Order couldn't lightspeed jump another fleet directly in front of the non-lightspeed Resistance fleet? Or that non-Jedi force users can now survive in the full vacuum of deep space? There's just a lot of poorly thought out stuff that's detracting from great shooting and acting.
Okay, thank you, I thought I was taking crazy pills. I saw that also and thought "oh s***, Kylo is coming for him, here we go."Jim01 said:
Huh. When Luke collapsed after his force projection he grabs the rock and looks to the horizon and I swear there was a black box in the middle of the sun, as if it was a ship heading there. Then they cut to Leia and Rey both sensing something and my reaction was "Oh damn! Someone's coming for Luke!" And then nothing came of it and he disappeared.
we do not need their help with that. we can **** it up enough on our own.VanZandt92 said:
Back to Aggie football. Disney can't fu** that up.
They don't have to. We'll do it ourselvesVanZandt92 said:
Back to Aggie football. Disney can't fu** that up.
SameJim01 said:
Huh. When Luke collapsed after his force projection he grabs the rock and looks to the horizon and I swear there was a black box in the middle of the sun, as if it was a ship heading there. Then they cut to Leia and Rey both sensing something and my reaction was "Oh damn! Someone's coming for Luke!" And then nothing came of it and he disappeared.
me too.Jim01 said:
Glad I'm not alone. Plus Luke gets a look on his face when he looks out at the horizon as if he is reacting to something. I'm convinced maybe they cut something. Made it disappointing to think something was going to happen and then he's like "Nah, I'm tuckered out, I'm just going to disappear." WTF
Let's not get off track, but either the majority of people are comic book fans or they're just good movies.wesag said:bobinator said:Except those were good movies.Champ Bailey said:
I think he shares my view that the tone of the movie felt more like a Guardians of The Galaxy movie or the last Thor movie, just with Star Wars characters.
Nope. Not unless you're a comic book fan.
ATM1876 said:
Luke thinks about murdering his nephew in his sleep?!? Ugh.
This may seem like a paradox, but I liked what Canto Bight symbolized thematically, I just didn't like the way it was executed on screen. Did anyone else feel that?Saul Goodman said:
I don't agree with everything here, but he summarizes my thoughts on the Canto Bight part of the story really well:
http://www.roosterteeth.com/post/51552869
take your personal e-***** fight somewhere else please.jabberwalkie09 said:We aren't talking about ANH are we? And ANH doesn't mean as much by itself unless it's couple with ESB and ROTJ and the revelations that come after it. Just like TFA doesn't mean as much without the revelation of what happened to Luke's Jedi Academy/Temple.wesag said:jabberwalkie09 said:I've never bought a comic book. And those were good movies.wesag said:bobinator said:Except those were good movies.Champ Bailey said:
I think he shares my view that the tone of the movie felt more like a Guardians of The Galaxy movie or the last Thor movie, just with Star Wars characters.
Nope. Not unless you're a comic book fan.
Compared to ANH? No they weren't.
She left to go find Luke. There wasn't much time to sit around and celebrate because the First Order knew where the base was and was coming for them.hurleyag said:
Also, how did Poe and Rey not meet after the destruction of Starkiller Base ?
The critics must have gotten the one where the Knights of Ren attack Achto.AustinAg2K said:
It's like they have two different copies of the movie people are watching.
Back to my point, for a lot of people that call themselves critics, this movie was a 10/10 as soon as a purple haired woman put a pilot with toxic masculinity in his place and sacrificed herself to resist a fascist leader.AustinAg2K said:
How crazy is this. Right now, Last Jedi sits at 93% on Rotten Tomatoes critics reviews. That's 1% behind Empire, making it the second best reviewed Star Wars movie (tied with the original and Force Awakens). It only has a 57% fan rating, tying it with Attack of the Clones for the worst fan rating. It's like they have two different copies of the movie people are watching.
Wasn't Finn unconscious at the end TFA?hurleyag said:
Also, how did Poe and Rey not meet after the destruction of Starkiller Base ?
I saw that too...Jim01 said:
Huh. When Luke collapsed after his force projection he grabs the rock and looks to the horizon and I swear there was a black box in the middle of the sun, as if it was a ship heading there. Then they cut to Leia and Rey both sensing something and my reaction was "Oh damn! Someone's coming for Luke!" And then nothing came of it and he disappeared.
Ugh...please take this to the politics board.Teacher_Ag said:Back to my point, for a lot of people that call themselves critics, this movie was a 10/10 as soon as a purple haired woman put a pilot with toxic masculinity in his place and sacrificed herself to resist a fascist leader.AustinAg2K said:
How crazy is this. Right now, Last Jedi sits at 93% on Rotten Tomatoes critics reviews. That's 1% behind Empire, making it the second best reviewed Star Wars movie (tied with the original and Force Awakens). It only has a 57% fan rating, tying it with Attack of the Clones for the worst fan rating. It's like they have two different copies of the movie people are watching.
maybe so, but considering all the bad guys in the past, he is by far the weakest minded one and the fact that he held back when he had his radar locked on to his mother hints that there's more to explore about his character.bobinator said:
I have a hard time imagining a series of events that leads to Kylo truly joining the resistance.
He held back then and later he kills Snoke and saves Rey. If he was going to flip then that was the tie. Once Rey shuts him down about ruling the galaxy I think he's locked in a "bad guy" even if he's not pure evil like ones of the past.AggieBaller98 said:maybe so, but considering all the bad guys in the past, he is by far the weakest minded one and the fact that he held back when he had his radar locked on to his mother hints that there's more to explore about his character.bobinator said:
I have a hard time imagining a series of events that leads to Kylo truly joining the resistance.
