When do they show Rey with them? Must have missed that.
redline248 said:
So, in Shadows of the Empire (novel), which is now legends, Luke finds one of Obi-Wan's old manuals on building a lightsaber and make his new (green) one.
I guess we can assume Rey will learn what she needs to be the new Yoda from the old books?
aggiephoenix02 said:redline248 said:
So, in Shadows of the Empire (novel), which is now legends, Luke finds one of Obi-Wan's old manuals on building a lightsaber and make his new (green) one.
I guess we can assume Rey will learn what she needs to be the new Yoda from the old books?
*****SPOILER ALERT*****
Yes, of course. On top of that, she likes fighting with a staff, and she has Anakin/Luke's old light saber (the one that was torn into two pieces after she and Kylo defeated Snoke). Are you connecting the dots yet? She has a light saber with the kyber crystal broke into two pieces...
She's going to make a light saber similar to the one that Darth Maul had in Episode I, a double bladed light saber staff!
There's a lot of issues with the CG characters in LOTR/Hobbit if you go back and watch (Hobbit in particular looks very digital in spots), though LOTR was groundbreaking for sure.FL_Ag1998 said:Sex Panther said:Quad Dog said:
On the other hand, what about Snoke? Was he the best fully CGI character we've ever seen? I though he looked great.
He's not even the best CGI character Andy Serkis has played
Agreed, the damn dirty apes from those movies are the best I've seen. In fact, I'd put most if not all of the CGI characters from the Lord of the Rings/Hobbit movies over Snoke.
fig96 said:
Don't think this has been posted... interesting thread.
fig96 said:
Agreed on the line, though he addresses the sequence and it's importance to the film in other replies which was more what I was referencing it for.
I thought it was an interesting point regarding that sequence no matter what your opinion of the film is.
Your main character's point of view changing doesn't matter in this film? Interesting perspective.Bunk Moreland said:fig96 said:
Agreed on the line, though he addresses the sequence and it's importance to the film in other replies which was more what I was referencing it for.
I thought it was an interesting point regarding that sequence no matter what your opinion of the film is.
It'd be more important in a 6 hour season of television, but not for this movie.
Again, most of us see the layers he tried to build, but the chief complaint is this ****ty movie wanted to be 5 movies all in one, and what resulted was a mess that dragged on too long and even attempts at things like this guy discusses ended up feeling completely hollow and did a disservice to the characters involved.
See, this is how you discussAg Since 83 said:
While I like the idea of that being Finn's arc, they should have been more explicit beyond the initial exchange about him wanting to get off the ship to save Rey. It was like once they left for CGI Space Vegas, his motivations were ignored in favor of Rose's. And I get it from the perspective of establishing Rose's character, but such a big part of TFA's popularity was the two friendships between Finn and Rey/Poe and where they might go. His journey to committed Rebel should have hinged on the further development of those relationships, not a new one. Just another reason why it should have been a Finn/Poe mission.
In ANH, we see Han's transformation from a guy only interested in money to the guy who comes back to save Luke at the end because of his growing friendship with Luke (and an attraction to the princess he just met). While that relationship was about as old in movietime as Finn and Rose's was, it was much better developed and wasn't obstructed by some dense casino plot that seemed superfluous to the main plot of the movie.
agracer said:
O/U on a major character being gay just for the PC crap and not to actually be a coherent part of the story....
This is how one knows that this movie was deeply compromised by its political themes...people pick up on the dog whistles and project things like a Finn not bring diverse enough in his viewpoint to like the chunky Asian girl. And the casino subplot was crucial to tell us that good and evil exists in the Star Wars universe. Who knew?fig96 said:See, this is how you discussAg Since 83 said:
While I like the idea of that being Finn's arc, they should have been more explicit beyond the initial exchange about him wanting to get off the ship to save Rey. It was like once they left for CGI Space Vegas, his motivations were ignored in favor of Rose's. And I get it from the perspective of establishing Rose's character, but such a big part of TFA's popularity was the two friendships between Finn and Rey/Poe and where they might go. His journey to committed Rebel should have hinged on the further development of those relationships, not a new one. Just another reason why it should have been a Finn/Poe mission.
In ANH, we see Han's transformation from a guy only interested in money to the guy who comes back to save Luke at the end because of his growing friendship with Luke (and an attraction to the princess he just met). While that relationship was about as old in movietime as Finn and Rose's was, it was much better developed and wasn't obstructed by some dense casino plot that seemed superfluous to the main plot of the movie.
I can see how folks would've wanted less Rose, but I thought it was really interesting to introduce a totally different sort of character. I think that also showed a bit of Finn's naviete, his worldview was really limited and rather black and white. The casino subplot introduced shades of gray that we never really knew existing in this world before. Poe was also integral to the other part of the story, it wouldn't have really made sense to pull him away from that.
Good observation on the ANH parallel though.
Except C3P0 is a droid...Sex Panther said:agracer said:
O/U on a major character being gay just for the PC crap and not to actually be a coherent part of the story....
C3PO isn't a major character really
If you got that from my post, you need to work on your reading comprehension.WestAustinAg said:This is how one knows that this movie was deeply compromised by its political themes...people pick up on the dog whistles and project things like a Finn not bring diverse enough in his viewpoint to like the chunky Asian girl. And the casino subplot was crucial to tell us that good and evil exists in the Star Wars universe. Who knew?fig96 said:See, this is how you discussAg Since 83 said:
While I like the idea of that being Finn's arc, they should have been more explicit beyond the initial exchange about him wanting to get off the ship to save Rey. It was like once they left for CGI Space Vegas, his motivations were ignored in favor of Rose's. And I get it from the perspective of establishing Rose's character, but such a big part of TFA's popularity was the two friendships between Finn and Rey/Poe and where they might go. His journey to committed Rebel should have hinged on the further development of those relationships, not a new one. Just another reason why it should have been a Finn/Poe mission.
In ANH, we see Han's transformation from a guy only interested in money to the guy who comes back to save Luke at the end because of his growing friendship with Luke (and an attraction to the princess he just met). While that relationship was about as old in movietime as Finn and Rose's was, it was much better developed and wasn't obstructed by some dense casino plot that seemed superfluous to the main plot of the movie.
I can see how folks would've wanted less Rose, but I thought it was really interesting to introduce a totally different sort of character. I think that also showed a bit of Finn's naviete, his worldview was really limited and rather black and white. The casino subplot introduced shades of gray that we never really knew existing in this world before. Poe was also integral to the other part of the story, it wouldn't have really made sense to pull him away from that.
Good observation on the ANH parallel though.
Brian Earl Spilner said:
When do they show Rey with them? Must have missed that.
oragator said:
I finally saw it tonight so I can now read through some of the comments. No problem if people didn't like it, but some of the nit picky reasons absolutely no movie could survive, it's meant to be a fun popcorn movie - that's all. I can finally see why Lucas didn't want to make more of them, he knew what was coming and the impossible standards his movies are held to,
I Just try to enjoy it for what it is, and what it isn't. Makes it a lot easier.
Jmo.
Farmer1906 said:
She steals the texts to continue the Jedi order. To rebuild it because Luke had lost its way and believed it needed to end.
Farmer1906 said:
Is it actually stealing? Are they Luke's property? At what point are they as much hers as Luke's since she's becoming a Jedi too while Luke has renounced the faith. I would say she's taking necessary actions to preserve a anchoring artifact.
Quote:
That's like Rocket's question at the end of GotG. "What if someone has something that I want, can I take it?"
"No. That would be stealing and stealing is against the law."
"What if I want it more than thy do?"
"Still stealing and still wrong."