DanHo2010 said:

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redd38 said:

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DanHo2010 said:

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I also enjoy McDoubles, but that doesn't mean they're good.

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Actually, that does mean they're good.

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No, it doesn't. Preference does not equal quality.

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Who hurt you? You won't even admit that something you enjoy is good? That's sad, man. A McDouble might not be good for you, or be made of high quality ingredients, but you enjoy it because it's good.

The fact that Leia flying in space didn't get cut...

wesag said:

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The fact that Leia flying in space didn't get cut...

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during the movie I asked my wife if Carrie fisher died early on in filming and they were forced to use her corpse for the leia space scene and medical chamber

I'm just glad that a large segment of y'all thought the movie was not good.

My gf thought I was overreacting to how bad it was. I too would put it in episode I or II levels bad. I would have given it a grade of C- at most. The part when Kylo was flying his fighter and started spinning, my girl friend said "I'll try spinning, that's a cool trick".


Maybe it's unfair to compare it to other Star Wars movies, but compared to the last one, Rogue One, it stunk.

I thought it was a great movie and I had a blast watching it...one of the best movie experiences I've ever had.

I feel Star Wars is a victim of nostalgia. Here's what I mean: people hold the OT in such high esteem, for good reason, but want to tear apart every single aspect of the new movies that don't "make sense" or rip apart the plot holes. There is without a doubt problems with the OT but it gets held up on a pedestal and it doesn't seem that it's critiqued at the same level as the new films.

It's like people have this idea of the OT in their heads about what kind of films they are and how great they are and that they have no issues at all. The new films just aren't given much slack with some people.

Just my opinion.

I think the biggest problem for the new sequels is that the anthology stories like Rogue One feel more like Star Wars than the new titular trilogy does.

The more I think about TLJ the less I find myself liking it. I think it's a mediocre film with some great moments but falls flat as a whole.

Saw the film last night, here are my thoughts after having some time to digest:

I *think* I love this movie. It's a weird thing to say, but there were so many WTF moments that it wasn't until I had time to think and piece them together that I really appreciated them.

This is the most complex, philosophical Star Wars movie, and I love that kind of s**t. The more you dig into it, the more it rewards you.

Things I loved:
- The humor. Easily the funniest Star Wars movie, and it isn't even close. I know some people didn't like it and thought it undercut the tone, but I thought it was fantastic.

- All of the performances. I seriously can't think of a single actor/actress that didn't put in a good performance. Mark Hamill was amazing, Carrie Fisher was great (huge step up from TFA), Adam Driver was terrific, Kelly Marie Tran, Oscar Issac, etc., etc.

- Cinematography. Just a beautiful film. Best since Empire in that regard.

- Snoke. I found him to be compelling and I love his personality and (albeit limited) show of his powers. I was conflicted about him being killed in this movie, because I wanted to see more of him, but the more I think about it, I'm glad they did it. Let's Kylo be the big bad and truly makes this sequel different.

- Kylo Ren. Loved his character arc, and I find him to be fascinating. I appreciate that we can relate to him to a certain degree on a more personal level than all of the other Star Wars villains.

- Action sequences. The space battles, Kylo/Rey throne room battle, etc. I thought they were some of the best actions scenes we've seen in a Star Wars.

- Crait. Such a cool design for a planet, and it was executed to perfection. Can't say enough good things about it.

- Yoda. The scene was probably fan service, but I loved that they used him to deliver some really great lines and it brought so much weight to Luke's character arc from Ep. IV to VIII.

- Canto Bight. I didn't love everything that happened here (will get to that), but I love what this world introduced and potentially sets up for future movies. Some really cool big picture plot lines can come out of this, if JJ does it right.

Things I wasn't crazy about:
- Didn't love the Leia superman in space thing. Maybe I need to see it again. But it just felt a little...silly? I would've chosen another way to show her force powers.

- Rey left a little bit to be desired. I don't think Daisy Ridley was as good in this as she was in TFA. While I think this movie set her up to have some really big moments in Ep. 9, I just felt like I wanted more from her character arc in this particular movie.

- The whole Finn/Rose riding on a space horse was just kind of meh. Felt random and out of place. I think Rian could have come up with a much better storyline for them on that planet.

- Really was hoping for a bad*** Luke fight scene. I understand why Rian didn't do it, and I think it would've simply been fan service. But I can't lie and say it didn't leave me disappointed that we never got it in this new trilogy.


Considering how dense this movie was, I'm going to be thinking about this movie for a while, and I know I'm not remembering everything now. Looking forward to seeing it again - probably won't be able to rank it until the 2nd or 3rd viewing. I definitely think this is a better movie than TFA, but I'm trying to decide if I love it like I did the TFA. It's just so so different.

I have gotten to where I turn my brain off in Star Wars, but the Leia in space scene was downright offensive to my senses.

Back to Aggie football. Disney can't fu** that up.

Did Leia do anything important after she flew through space? Seems like they could have just let her die at that point. Then Luke sensing that could have been the reason he came back to help the resistance.

I also feel like Rey's parent reveal was wasted. First of all, it was basically Star Wars edging, building up to a climax then no climax. Secondly, I thought the knowledge of who her parents were was going to anger her in some way that makes her more tempted by the dark side, but it was just sorta "meh". She's a nobody, who cares? Not nearly as powerful as if she were someone that had been hurt or betrayed by good side somehow.

Rey's lightsaber skills are another thing that people are talking about but doesn't bother me. She was kicking ass with a big stick before she had the lightsaber, and we already know she's incredibly strong with the force so her reactions would clearly be faster than any normal person anyway.

Yoda calling Luke "Young Skywalker" had me rollin'!

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Is it true that a scene with Snoke, Kylo, and Rey is just a rehash of the final scene with the emperor, Vader, and Luke?


I've also read that whereas Luke visited the reclusive Yoda to train and ultimately leaves early it is similar with Rey visiting a now reclusive Luke and abruptly leaving due to sensing something a la my friends are in danger?

Copy and pasting Return of the Jedi?

And Leia is flying through space?


And some of y'all liked this movie? Or are just trying to find some redeeming qualities?


Maybe it's me and just getting old.

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did you watch the movie or just trolling?

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Rey's lightsaber skills are another thing that people are talking about but doesn't bother me. She was kicking ass with a big stick before she had the lightsaber, and we already know she's incredibly strong with the force so her reactions would clearly be faster than any normal person anyway.

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I would have been fine with them giving Rey a saber-staff or spear or something similar. Having her be a martial arts expert in all forms of weapon-based combat makes absolutely no sense to me, at all.

Part of the problem is that the OT and the prequels already established the fact that lightsabers are ****ing hard to use.

AGinHI said:

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Is it true that a scene with Snoke, Kylo, and Rey is just a rehash of the final scene with the emperor, Vader, and Luke?


I've also read that whereas Luke visited the reclusive Yoda to train and ultimately leaves early it is similar with Rey visiting a now reclusive Luke and abruptly leaving due to sensing something a la my friends are in danger?

Copy and pasting Return of the Jedi?

And Leia is flying through space?


And some of y'all liked this movie? Or are just trying to find some redeeming qualities?


Maybe it's me and just getting old.

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1. No, the battle was awesome.

2. At first, I thought Luke was being an old samurai master, testing if she really wanted training. But no - he really did not want to teach her. She did need to bail on him, I'll give you that.

3. I'd say more like Empire in a good way. Things don't look promising for the good guys.

4. The flying thru space is a necessary scene - it set up Luke vs First Order Army barrage.

5. I loved it.

6. I'm so old I saw the original in the theater.

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I would have been fine with them giving Rey a saber-staff or spear or something similar. Having her be a martial arts expert in all forms of weapon-based combat makes absolutely no sense to me, at all.

Part of the problem is that the OT and the prequels already established the fact that lightsabers are ****ing hard to use.

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Episode 9, Kylo gets wrecked in a lightsaber fight with the broom kid

It was alright. 6/10. Enjoyed many moments, cringed at a few, was bored/"wtf is this happening" through a few scenes.

Disney could choose to try and cater to old-school fans and make a tight movie that ties together loose ends, or they could choose to cater to casual movie goers and younger fans and to also make sure to win some diversity/you go girl points for people that care a lot about that. We got the latter. Ah well, will enjoy it for what it was.