The ending was a hot mess.
DanHo2010 said:
I'm starting to think a lot of you liked it not because it was good, but just because it served you a big helping of member grapes.
I don't know if it was a hot mess, but the kid with the broom looking up to the sky was just not a good Star Wars end scene.VanZandt92 said:
The ending was a hot mess.
AGGies0311 said:
Was there an after credits scene?
Nope. I had an annoying AMC broompusher yelling at the crowd that there was nothing after the credits, so I made sure to stick around to see the LucasFilm logo at the end, just to annoy him.AGGies0311 said:
Was there an after credits scene?
Farmer1906 said:
Who does that even mean?
DanHo2010 said:
I also enjoy McDoubles, but that doesn't mean they're good.
nikator said:double aught said:This just seems like a really odd take.nikator said:
one thing I loved was the movie putting know it all 20 somethings in their place. So many movies and books including Harry Potter, Wheel of Time and Game of Thrones have the world being saved by a bunch of 20 year old. Here Poe repeatedly got egg on his face and by sending out Finn to get the code breaker cost lives. The escape pod gambit would have worked without the code breaker ratting them out. Someone needs to give Poe a code red.
Also, Oscar Isaac (Poe) is nearly 40.
The actor may be 40,but he is presented as a young brash fighter pilot. After a bunch of movies where the young perfect hero can do no wrong... It is good to see them eff up from time to time and have someone else save the day. Q
Ultimately all of Poe and Flynn machinations were pissing in the wind. Someone else had to come and save their bacon. Hopefully it will give them some humility but it won't.
And it lead to that light speed kamikaze action so it was worth it.
Except those were good movies.Champ Bailey said:
I think he shares my view that the tone of the movie felt more like a Guardians of The Galaxy movie or the last Thor movie, just with Star Wars characters.
Yep, didn't even know what that meant because I don't watch South Park.DanHo2010 said:
Yall really don't know what member grapes are? South Park? I really have to explain this?
It means you liked it just because it made you feel nostalgic while having little to no originality or value of its own.
DanHo2010 said:
I'm pretty stunned at all the negative reactions. Not understanding at all. This was a generally well written, well acted, well produced Star Wars film. Like I said before, not perfect by any means, but not even close to a bad movie either. I for one did not think TFA was very good, because it was just a rehash of ANH, nearly frame for frame in a lot of ways. I'm starting to think a lot of you liked it not because it was good, but just because it served you a big helping of member grapes. Did I like/enjoy TFA? Of course I did. I watched it multiple times in theaters and it's in my regular Bluray rotation. I also enjoy McDoubles, but that doesn't mean they're good.
Yeah, let's take a look at your statement.DanHo2010 said:
Not sure we are on the same page. I was saying I think a lot of people liked TFA because it made them feel nostalgic, and didn't like this one because it took more risks.
Nostalgia-sureQuote:
It means you liked it just because it made you feel nostalgic while having little to no originality or value of its own
The Ice Cream Kid said:
My 8 year old son pointed out this morning (will confirm on second viewing): during Ren - Skywalker lightsaber battle, Luke did not make red footprints. (saip)
No, it doesn't. Preference does not equal quality.redd38 said:DanHo2010 said:
I also enjoy McDoubles, but that doesn't mean they're good.
Actually, that does mean they're good.
bobinator said:Except those were good movies.Champ Bailey said:
I think he shares my view that the tone of the movie felt more like a Guardians of The Galaxy movie or the last Thor movie, just with Star Wars characters.
That's exactly what I'm saying - a possible cause for the differing reactions to TFA and TLJ is that people liked TFA because it met their nostalgic expectations, and did not like TLJ because it did not.jabberwalkie09 said:Yeah, let's take a look at your statement.DanHo2010 said:
Not sure we are on the same page. I was saying I think a lot of people liked TFA because it made them feel nostalgic, and didn't like this one because it took more risks.Nostalgia-sureQuote:
It means you liked it just because it made you feel nostalgic while having little to no originality or value of its own
little to no originality or value- I'd venture that it was original and had value to the overall story
So unless you were saying that this movie didn't meet nostalgia expectation of people, then I'm going to have to disagree with your definition you provided for "member grapes". People here aren't hating this movie on a level of Battlefield Earth or something else that's equally hated. At worse these are very middle of the road reactions, didn't love it but didn't hate it.
This is another mechanics complaint from me. There were TIE fighters ALL OVER THE PLACE while that bomber was moving into position, and then it dropped the bombs and blew up the dreadnaught and they all vanished.IrishAg said:
No one in the first order appears to have that capability, but somehow they magically have a large scale multifaceted military force with enough people to run multiple capital ships. (I mean seriously, the opening sequence had 3 capital ships sit and watch as slow ass bombers approached and destroyed their dreadnaught).
I've never bought a comic book. And those were good movies.wesag said:bobinator said:Except those were good movies.Champ Bailey said:
I think he shares my view that the tone of the movie felt more like a Guardians of The Galaxy movie or the last Thor movie, just with Star Wars characters.
Nope. Not unless you're a comic book fan.
jabberwalkie09 said:I've never bought a comic book. And those were good movies.wesag said:bobinator said:Except those were good movies.Champ Bailey said:
I think he shares my view that the tone of the movie felt more like a Guardians of The Galaxy movie or the last Thor movie, just with Star Wars characters.
Nope. Not unless you're a comic book fan.
Then your definition was **** as it didn't meet the second half of the statement. It would have to meet both halves of that to be true. And judging by your response, it doesn't meet that bar.DanHo2010 said:That's exactly what I'm saying - a possible cause for the differing reactions to TFA and TLJ is that people liked TFA because it met their nostalgic expectations, and did not like TLJ because it did not.jabberwalkie09 said:Yeah, let's take a look at your statement.DanHo2010 said:
Not sure we are on the same page. I was saying I think a lot of people liked TFA because it made them feel nostalgic, and didn't like this one because it took more risks.Nostalgia-sureQuote:
It means you liked it just because it made you feel nostalgic while having little to no originality or value of its own
little to no originality or value- I'd venture that it was original and had value to the overall story
So unless you were saying that this movie didn't meet nostalgia expectation of people, then I'm going to have to disagree with your definition you provided for "member grapes". People here aren't hating this movie on a level of Battlefield Earth or something else that's equally hated. At worse these are very middle of the road reactions, didn't love it but didn't hate it.
We aren't talking about ANH are we? And ANH doesn't mean as much by itself unless it's couple with ESB and ROTJ and the revelations that come after it. Just like TFA doesn't mean as much without the revelation of what happened to Luke's Jedi Academy/Temple.wesag said:jabberwalkie09 said:I've never bought a comic book. And those were good movies.wesag said:bobinator said:Except those were good movies.Champ Bailey said:
I think he shares my view that the tone of the movie felt more like a Guardians of The Galaxy movie or the last Thor movie, just with Star Wars characters.
Nope. Not unless you're a comic book fan.
Compared to ANH? No they weren't.