*+* Walking Dead Season 8 *+*

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Negan might be the most entertaining bad guy I've ever seen on a television show.

I love it when he's on screen. He saved the show for me.

And I can't wait for him to get off of my screen.

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Maggie is the least pregnant, pregnant character in history.

In the timeline of the show it's only been a month maybe two since we found out she was pregnant.
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Ol Jock 99 said:

You made it through season 7 and this does you in??
Barely. Last season sucked. I gave it a shot hoping it would end up better, but it didn't. So you think it's odd that I don't want to sit through another ones that sucks?
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Talking Dead was on point tonight! Not only they brought the entire cast onto the talk show but they brought former castmates whose characters have already died on the show. They are:

Sonequa Martin-Green (Sasha)
Steven Yeun (Glenn) (video message)
Emily Kinney (Beth Greene)
Scott Wilson (Hershel Greene)
IronE Singleton (T-Dog)
Sarah Wayne Callies (Lori Grimes) (video message)
Michael Rooker (Merle Dixon)
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Gabriel has a loaded gun. Why he would need his ****ting pants on is beyond me.
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FightinTexasAg15
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Negan should have been dead 10x over if everyone didn't suck at shooting him somehow
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First, nobody at all from Negan's group even got hit with a single bullet? Especially Negan, who I'd bet most of the group would have been aiming at.

Then let's waste all of our limited ammo on shooting out windows? Ridiculous.
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The Walking ruhtahDead


in self torture mode at this point
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I started the series when it first began. Then I stopped due to football. Binge watched the first seven seasons August-October. First "live" episode since 2014.

Lot of build up...one of the most "nothing major really happened" battles. Ehhh kind of start to a long wait since the last episode.
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Pretty weak.
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i watched it. So I guess I'm going to stay on the ride this season.

I'm prepared for a full season of war. I don't know if that will culminate with Negans death this season or the beginning of season 9, but my guess is that's the next major waypoint and honestly the whole season will be filler for me; because I'm past caring abouy any individual characters. From that point I feel like I'm watching for a totally different purpose than before. I used to watch to see the storyline develop, completely ignoring the fact the storyline was pre-printed in another format. Now I watch to see how the show will handle the inevitable need for resolution. I'm presuming THAT has not been resolved in the companion series, but I think for the sake of this one, it will need to resolve at some point in another couple seasons or risk dying on the vine.

Using myself as an one data point and this thread as another - the 'never ending series' doesn't play as well on tv. I see the fever pitch for the season premier and the finale and a lot of more grumbling between. I am hanging around to 1. Protect my investment because I've been here so long. And 2. See how the writers handle the end, it may still be a long way away- but I think someday there will be the first hints about resolution, those are the Easter Eggs that help keep me watching.
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Philip J Fry said:

Gabriel has a loaded gun. Why he would need his ****ting pants on is beyond me.


In real life, Gabriel would shoot Negan immediately.
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I can't believe nobody injected a round into Negan's head when he was standing outside on the platform. Rick even said they only had to kill 1 person to end this. All those rifles with magnified optics trained on that door, the 1 guy they need to kill presents himself on a silver platter, and nobody takes a shot.
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FiTxAg04 said:

I can't believe nobody injected a round into Negan's head when he was standing outside on the platform. Rick even said they only had to kill 1 person to end this. All those rifles with magnified optics trained on that door, the 1 guy they need to kill presents himself on a silver platter, and nobody takes a shot.
"Our plan worked! We have Negan and his whole goon squad rounded up in front of us. Let's end this."

*Shoots windows*
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they never got that ammunition factory up and running, did they? those fools sprayed an awful lot of bullets at windows for some reason.

...and wtf was father gabriel doing getting out of his car to help that old hilltop loser?
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F'ing awful.

Darryl on a bike, yet the herd apparently can keep up with him?
Grandpa Rick? What's even the point? What "could be"?
Sheet-metal stops bullets in the apocalypse apparently? Did I mess the episode when they found an arc welder to make that giant cap for the RV. They didn't blacksmith that sh*t together.
Little ass kicker is basically walking. Maggie?
Negan? Strolls out, like they knew he would. Starts to monologue. Like they knew he would. Those same shooters that took out multiple sentries? They on a coffee break?
All those episodes of practice with scoped rifles? Michone?
Shooting windows? Is this The Strain now? Are they letting in sunlight to kill the hive? WTF?
Sh*t pants? That's Negans big line? Seriously, who was the writer for this garbage?
Father G - let's get out of the car? Then with a loaded rifle apparently you know how to shoot? You just freeze in the face of one of the worse lines in the history of the show?
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BlueSmoke said:

F'ing awful.

Father G - let's get out of the car? Then with a loaded rifle apparently you know how to shoot? You just freeze in the face of one of the worse lines in the history of the show?
THIS! The fact that he didn't shoot around Negan and blast those windows out of that RV immediately blows my mind.
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As bad as last season was, I waited this long for some anti-climactic "war" where people, apparently forget how to shoot even one bad guy (despite being sharpshooters previously), the priest is supposed to be scared, despite having a loaded gun, and nothing of real consequence really happened, except the entire episode being a **** show.

Ok, I've got it. The writers SSSUUUUUCCCCCKKKKK!!!!!!
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I hope you have your ****ting pants on.

This season premier was one big let down.
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So FTWD picked up hunh? I only made it through 3/4 of the first season. I really dislike the main people (other than the barber and the boat guy, I hated them all.) I figured it would get better once they were "survivors" instead of people freaking out adjusting to the apocalypse. Maybe it's time for me to check it out again. I enjoyed the premier of season 8, certainly not as much as some of the older seasons, but better than season 7.
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So Rick's plan was to blow all this stuff up, show up and shoot out windows, then leave? Ok so there's a lot of zombies inside now, but other than the gates being breached they seem pretty secure in the building. Nothing that Negan and his army couldn't probably clear out or ride out.

I thought they were showing up to end it. One big battle. What is the plan here? They just poke the bear then sit back and wait to get eaten? Wtf? Am I missing something?

Is the assumption that the horde will wipe out Negan's camp entirely?
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-Negan's home base is now surrounded by a horde.
-Good number of scouts have been taken out.
-Rapid response team taken out.
-Outlying base(s) taken out (the satellite building with the arrow shots)

I rolled my eyes at Negan and his top captains coming out too, but did anyone REALLY expect them to be taken out?
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The "gunfight" was really confusing.

It appeared like they were aiming for the windows and for a split second I thought the RV was going to act like a ramp to get the zombies in through the windows.

They had the core group of Saviors literally lined up for a firing squad and did not take advantage.

No one ever runs out of ammo on this show or needs to reload? And I would assume that bullets would be at a premium since, you know, they aren't being manufactured. Nevermind, lets show those windows we mean business.



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So does anyone know why they shot out the windows?

Also Tara with that twizzler stick acting like she's some badass...kind of looking forward to her death now. I hope Lucille has one more victim and it's her.
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I was thinking the plan was to pin down the sanctuary with walkers to let the good guys take out other savior outposts one on one. (That's how I interpreted Rick running down that long driveway near the end). It certainly wasn't very clear from the episode, though. No idea on the windows, it did seem like they were intentionally avoiding shooting through the building. Avoiding bystanders perhaps?
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..after not taking the clear easy shot when you had it, presumably and inexplicably because you wanted to give Negan's first officers/captains a chance to live, you surprise everyone by stopping the countdown short and spraying bullets towards Negan and his officers... after inexplicably missing all them, you have Negan basically trapped in a cage while you pelt him with bullets and you stop because the ***** priest reminds you that your master plan of shooting out windows and then leaving is much more important than killing Negan. It's not about you, Rick!


it has gotten bad, but i feel like i have to see this one through just because i've gotten this far.

couple other things from last night: was old man/ conditioned beard Rick living with a still young Michone? what if Daryl, while shooting a handgun while leading a motorcycle escort for a zombie horde, missed one of the explosion shots set up to direct the horde? would he turn around and go back and try again?
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Ol Jock 99 said:

-Negan's home base is now surrounded by a horde.
-Good number of scouts have been taken out.
-Rapid response team taken out.
-Outlying base(s) taken out (the satellite building with the arrow shots)

I rolled my eyes at Negan and his top captains coming out too, but did anyone REALLY expect them to be taken out?
As someone who watches this show like I watch Texas football - for the ridiculous insanity and comedy - I thought MAYBE they could have an Indiana Jones moment. Big Bad walks out and BAM right in the middle of one of this dumdass lines where he leans back on the 4th word he takes one in the neck. Blood goes everywhere and Dwight pops the others. Boom. Done.

Then I realized these writers THINK they are on the level of Breaking Bad or Better Call Saul or Game of Thrones. They aren't. So they come up with this garbage.
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I also feel like I have to see the show through. But it's getting really difficult.

The story has come down to characters making terrible and inexplicable decisions in order to move the plot forward. When that fails then they fall on cliff hangers.

"Hope you brought your sh**ing pants" has got to be one of the worst, cringiest lines in television. Gabriel should have shot him in the face for that line alone

This is what happens when you don't really have an end goal. The show is just going to keep spinning its wheels and recycling the same things over and over, with the quality level ever plummeting
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oh no said:

..after not taking the clear easy shot when you had it, presumably and inexplicably because you wanted to give Negan's first officers/captains a chance to live, you surprise everyone by stopping the countdown short and spraying bullets towards Negan and his officers... after inexplicably missing all them, you have Negan basically trapped in a cage while you pelt him with bullets and you stop because the ***** priest reminds you that your master plan of shooting out windows and then leaving is much more important than killing Negan. It's not about you, Rick!

I love this. Is killing Negan not in the absolute best interest of the entire group? Is that not the whole mission, really? I was in awe at that part.
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This might have been the worst episode in the whole series.

1. Maggie seems to be taking her pregnancy remarkably well. None of that rotting flesh or blood seems to bother her pregnancy nose. Or stress. Oh, Judith has grown 6 sizes but not Maggie.

2. The battles speeches were awful, only Ezekiel can get away with that kind of corn.

3. None carrying a gun and only a metal handrail for cover. Rick's guys had automatic weapons and they couldn't tag one of Negan's officers?

4. Rick would have either shot the hungry dude when he's crazy Rick or captured him when he's normal Rick. If he was one of the saviors then how stupid would it be to let a scout go? So they go from killing all the lookouts and scouts to shooting a bullet in the air bringing about more walkers?

5. I see they've completely resolved their ammo issue. No one seems to care.

6. Once Negan found out Gregory was useless, he'd bashed his skull in in front of the other survivors.

7. Gabe's whole talk about one man, then confronted with one man, cannot shoot one man.

8. Tara, so edgy, give me a break. Apparently everyone on the show knows the finer points of rigging a bomb. Rosita? Maybe. Not Tara.


This was some seriously lazy writing. They've gotten to the point where they know they are so successful that they don't even have to try and still make money. Victory has made them weak.
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Generally - when the aftershow is as long or longer than the real show, Every week; you're way too impressed with yourself.
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Centerpole90 said:

Generally - when the aftershow is as long or longer than the real show, Every week; you're way too impressed with yourself.
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I didn't get a chance to watch last night, but I peaked in here carefully to get a feel for how it went. LOL, doesn't sound like it went well... like, at all!

Ugh! I've never hated on the show the way others have, but this was the 1st season when I wasn't actively looking forward to the premier. It's harder and harder for me to find time to watch shows in general, and now my motivation is almost 0 to even start this season.
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Centerpole90 said:

Generally - when the aftershow is as long or longer than the real show, Every week; you're way too impressed with yourself.

I feel somewhat cheated that this wasnt an epic 2 hour episode, with a cliffhanger ending at the very least. As it is, I will no doubt watch the whole season, as always, but they sure don't seem to be trying very hard.
 
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