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TexasAggies06
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ATM1876 said:

Diane Keaton joined in Woody's defense today:

mazzag
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You win the Internet today.
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Francis Macomber
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Urban Ag said:

So I was in middle school from 85-88 and HS form 88-92 and in no way, shape, or form was it acceptable to 21+ year old guys to date middle school girls. And the only high school girls I can recall having boy friends out of high school were in cases where the boyfriend was older and graduated and moved on.

Geez, we even had a major incident when I was a freshman, where some senior guys allegedly had a pool for who would be first to sleep with a classmate of mine. Her dad somehow caught wind of it and proceeded to walk in to the locker room at the start of football practice and inform the team that slow death would be the result of anyone touching his daughter. Later that year the school board voted to move freshman in to the middle school as the age gap between freshman and seniors was deemed to wide.

Maybe I just lived around a bunch of prudes but grown men dating middle school aged kids would have been grounds for a jail cell if not vigilante justice.
So, where was everybody raising hell about McConaughey as David Wooderson in 1993 Dazed and Confused?

People loved that character because everybody knew somebody like him - "That's what I like about them freshmen girls...."

I can only go on my experience. Where I am from (small Texas town) there were guys several years out of high school dating 8th graders and freshmen in high school. No adults ever did anything about it. As kids, we would comment on it, but it was more like "I can't believe her parents allow it" type of thing.
double aught
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That movie was fiction. Not to mention, it took place in the 70s, not the 20 years ago you spoke of.
expresswrittenconsent
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But but but what about wooderson? Jesus what an idiot.
Sex Panther
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double aught said:

That movie was fiction. Not to mention, it took place in the 70s, not the 20 years ago you spoke of.


No it isn't
Brian Earl Spilner
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Not a Bot
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Was confirmed as likely suicide. Was found hanging in a wooded area. Welfare check at his home led them to the body, makes me think (guessing here) there was some sort of suicide note.
TexasAggies06
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Ended up watching the rest of this interview on YouTube after seeing that clip and it's pretty great. I feel like this interviewer was hoping to get some sort of juicy quote or get him to say something controversial, but he just has no time for that nonsense.

TCTTS
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Got the same feeling. She was subtly trying to bait him for sure. Still, his reaction is so refreshing, and so perfectly Seinfeld. Love it.
Bunk Moreland
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His responses are exactly as I want everyone to start responding.

Stop responding to illogical fallacies, reset & answer the actual question asked or topic being discussed.

Oh, and don't be afraid to he truly honest about what's going on here. His reaction to the weirdness of what Louis and others did (speaking only about the weird stuff) is exactly the same conversation I had with my buddy months ago... And we may have even had on this thread.
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Geez, we even had a major incident when I was a freshman, where some senior guys allegedly had a pool for who would be first to sleep with a classmate of mine. Her dad somehow caught wind of it and proceeded to walk in to the locker room at the start of football practice and inform the team that slow death would be the result of anyone touching his daughter.
That's awesome. But today, 5 effeminate smartasses would have that video loaded to the interwebs before dad even had left the building. The local TV stations would come down to the interview the boys about the traumatic, threatening event.
Francis Macomber
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double aught said:

That movie was fiction. Not to mention, it took place in the 70s, not the 20 years ago you spoke of.


It was fiction, you don't say?

And the movie came out in the 90s. It wasn't baby boomers who were watching that movie in the 90s, was it?

Y'all are looking so hard for something to get outraged about that you don't even read what is being said. Typical pearl clutching behavior.
Francis Macomber
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but nothing, nothing, has taken on the mythic status of McConaughey's ageing, stoned, pink-jeaned, jailbait-groover in the Ted Nugent t-shirt or the timeless magnitude of the line, "I get older, they stay the same age." Linklater says he couldn't agree more.

Richard Linklater: I know. It was some combination of that script, and Matthew's character, and where we went with it that really was I felt it while we were shooting, that we had gone to some other level. But it's something familiar. In every town, I've had people all over the world tell me, like, 'Oh, in my town that guy's name was'


Take it up with Richard Linklater.
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bangobango said:

double aught said:

That movie was fiction. Not to mention, it took place in the 70s, not the 20 years ago you spoke of.


It was fiction, you don't say?

And the movie came out in the 90s. It wasn't baby boomers who were watching that movie in the 90s, was it?

Y'all are looking so hard for something to get outraged about that you don't even read what is being said. Typical pearl clutching behavior.
I'm hardly outraged. I just disagree with your assertion that 20 years ago (1998!), people didn't make a big deal out of a 21 year old dating a 14 year old.
Brian Earl Spilner
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RIGHT?
Brian Earl Spilner
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Top 5 gif usage I've ever seen on Texags.
Diggity
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To be fair, it was already referenced on this thread. Better usage this time though
mhayden
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Are we sure it wasn't Chaz that did these awful things to Nicole?
YouBet
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Urban Ag said:

So I was in middle school from 85-88 and HS form 88-92 and in no way, shape, or form was it acceptable to 21+ year old guys to date middle school girls. And the only high school girls I can recall having boy friends out of high school were in cases where the boyfriend was older and graduated and moved on.

Geez, we even had a major incident when I was a freshman, where some senior guys allegedly had a pool for who would be first to sleep with a classmate of mine. Her dad somehow caught wind of it and proceeded to walk in to the locker room at the start of football practice and inform the team that slow death would be the result of anyone touching his daughter. Later that year the school board voted to move freshman in to the middle school as the age gap between freshman and seniors was deemed to wide.

Maybe I just lived around a bunch of prudes but grown men dating middle school aged kids would have been grounds for a jail cell if not vigilante justice.


We are the exact same age. I can recall one example where a girl in my class in 8th grade dated a senior. It was a big deal to us because of the gap. Our 8th and 9th grades were in it's own building separate from 10-12. So, he would drive over to our campus every day at 3:30 and pick her up from school. No one ever said anything about it. It was just normal to everyone I guess.

My senior year one of my classmates was dating our govt / econ teacher who was 30 at the time. It was public to the point that they were open with their relationship at school during school hours. They later married and had kids.

No one said anything about that either. Maybe it was just living in East Texas.
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Disney Animation Sets Staff "Day of Listening" Amid Speculation Over John Lasseter's Fate

On Thursday, the staff of Disney Animation Studios will gather on the lot for what the company is calling a "Day of Listening," with a handful of human-resources professionals present to facilitate a discussion of workplace concerns.

The gathering, which Disney veterans say is unprecedented for the Burbank-based animation unit, comes as sources with ties to both Disney Animation and Pixar Animation Studios speculate that John Lasseter, who oversees both companies but has been on leave since November, will not return from what was characterized by Disney as a six-month "sabbatical." At the time, Lasseter, 61, acknowledged "painful" conversations and unspecified "missteps" in a memo to staff.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/disney-animation-sets-staff-day-listening-speculation-john-lasseter-s-fate-1080339

I know he shouldn't come back, but part of me really wants him to.
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maxag42
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Wow. Quentin is a ******bag. Not that i'm surprised, hearing the stories over the years how difficult he was to people he worked with.
Diggity
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I don't know if Thurman is now incoherent or the journalist is just a bad story teller, but that article was very hard to follow.

Quentin could possibly be a dick, but to presume he was intentionally going to hurt his muse because she was fighting with Harvey is preposterous.
Brian Earl Spilner
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Ugh, as a fan of Kill Bill, and Tarantino in general, that was sad to read.

(And agree that it was hard to follow.)
fig96
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Diggity said:

I don't know if Thurman is now incoherent or the journalist is just a bad story teller, but that article was very hard to follow.

Quentin could possibly be a dick, but to presume he was intentionally going to hurt his muse because she was fighting with Harvey is preposterous.
Agreed. It doesn't sound good but the Kill Bill stories were just sort of interjected in the middle there with no context , especially with what Tarantino did on screen, so I'm not quite clear what happened.
Bunk Moreland
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Sounds like there should have been 2 separate articles... One detailing what happened with her and Harvey and the other about a tough time in her life personally with a marriage falling apart and putting everything into the biggest movie of her career.

But Dowd wrote half of both and randomly navigated us through it.
YouBet
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Strange interview. Never knew about that car wreck.
abileneag09
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Hypothetical question:
If Tom Cruise left Scientology and denounced it, but as he did that the church released a bunch of stories that he'd sexually abused a bunch of girls, what would your reaction be?

At least part of me would assume that the church is making it up. And it's even possible that they set up situations to use as blackmail against him.

But even if there were a few true allegations thrown in there with the fake scientology ones, seeing him speak out against it as a horribly corrupt cult would earn a lot of forgiveness, i think. That organization is a messed up cult that ruins its members lives and I'd see him taking them down as some sort of plea bargain with the prosecutor.


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https://jezebel.com/heres-audio-of-quentin-tarantino-defending-roman-polans-1822745916
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abileneag09 said:

Hypothetical question:
If Tom Cruise left Scientology and denounced it, but as he did that the church released a bunch of stories that he'd sexually abused a bunch of girls, what would your reaction be?

At least part of me would assume that the church is making it up. And it's even possible that they set up situations to use as blackmail against him.

But even if there were a few true allegations thrown in there with the fake scientology ones, seeing him speak out against it as a horribly corrupt cult would earn a lot of forgiveness, i think. That organization is a messed up cult that ruins its members lives and I'd see him taking them down as some sort of plea bargain with the prosecutor.



I see what you're saying, but no one who abuses children ever gets a pass for any reason in my book.

I do agree that I'd have a hard time believing any allegations against anyone who left the Church of Scientology and/or spoke out against it. However, if there was good physical evidence or an admission of guilt, there is no sympathy or plea deal in my book.
abileneag09
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I guess i didn't specify but i was thinking all victims were 18 or older. If there were kids, I'd have a very hard time accepting a plea deal as well.
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Brian Earl Spilner
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Tarantino's side of the tale. Sounds pretty reasonable.

http://deadline.com/2018/02/quentin-tarantino-uma-thurman-harvey-weinstein-kill-bill-car-crash-new-york-times-1202278988/
 
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