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swimmerbabe11
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ellebee
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Ha! Hardly. One post doesn't constitute "constant self righteousness". You're all over this forum 24-7 making sure everyone knows how much of a better person you are than everyone else.
Know Your Enemy
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OMG. Some guys said some rude things to you when you were waitressing in a sports bar? Are you going to file charges? #metoo
Liquid Wrench
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I heard some older guy call a waitress "Sweetie" once. I wish I'd had the courage to speak up and put a stop to it.
Brian Earl Spilner
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PatAg said:

Why does this thread have so many posts.


Because there's so many ******bags in Hollywood?
swimmerbabe11
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Not sure when I kicked your dog, but this isn't the first time you've pointed out your distaste for me.

I don't think I'm better than anyone else, certainly not my intent.
Pahdz
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Can y'all take your general board tiff back to that cesspool?

I think what some people are getting at is this started as outing people for legit sexual assault and rape and now if someone looked at someone wrong it's labeled "sexual assault."
swimmerbabe11
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Agreed
Harassment and assault def aren't the same thing and shouldn't be treated the same.

I'm not sure what the Venn diagram for guys who are notorious for harassing behavior and guys who actually commit assault would be, but I'd be curious.
swimmerbabe11
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Wasn't insinuating that every guy who makes a dirty joke acts on it...but if a 30-40 year old guy tells his 18-20 year old waitress that he'd like to motorboat her, she'd probably prefer to not walk to her car alone at the same time as him.

My question about the Venn diagram was about guys who consistently behave in that manner/ don't get in trouble for it, and how often that is indicative of worse behavior. I dont know anything dude who assaulted the girl at that party, but if he did that in front of bunch of people, I'm guessing his average party behavior wasn't that of a perfect gentleman.



Ftr, when that someone directed a joke of that nature directly to me, I gave them their checks and told them a male server could help them if they wanted to stay. It's inappropriate and uncomfortable, but no I didn't "file charges" or accuse them of being rapists.
fig96
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swimmerbabe11 said:

Wasn't insinuating that every guy who makes a dirty joke acts on it...but if a 30-40 year old guy tells his 18-20 year old waitress that he'd like to motorboat her, she'd probably prefer to not walk to her car alone at the same time as him.

My question about the Venn diagram was about guys who consistently behave in that manner/ don't get in trouble for it, and how often that is indicative of worse behavior. I dont know anything dude who assaulted the girl at that party, but if he did that in front of bunch of people, I'm guessing his average party behavior wasn't that of a perfect gentleman.



Ftr, when that someone directed a joke of that nature directly to me, I gave them their checks and told them a male server could help them if they wanted to stay. It's inappropriate and uncomfortable, but no I didn't "file charges" or accuse them of being rapists.
It probably wasnt. Billionaires tend to get away with inappropriate behavior a bit more often than your average guy.
TCTTS
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Everything you're saying makes absolute sense and is 100% justified. Some of these guys don't deserve a response.
Know Your Enemy
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swimmerbabe11 said:

Ftr, when that someone directed a joke of that nature directly to me, I gave them their checks and told them a male server could help them if they wanted to stay. It's inappropriate and uncomfortable, but no I didn't "file charges" or accuse them of being rapists.

Good lord.
Pahdz
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Junkhead said:

swimmerbabe11 said:

Ftr, when that someone directed a joke of that nature directly to me, I gave them their checks and told them a male server could help them if they wanted to stay. It's inappropriate and uncomfortable, but no I didn't "file charges" or accuse them of being rapists.

Good lord.


There is nothing wrong with doing that.
Zobel
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You in the habit of telling random waitresses you want to motorboat them? You think that's normal behavior?
Know Your Enemy
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k2aggie07 said:

You in the habit of telling random waitresses you want to motorboat them? You think that's normal behavior?

Not at all but I've seen waitresses shut down smartasses like that with one quick comeback without having to run away to daddy to assign a man to their table. Honestly, those waitresses probably get better tips in the end.
mazzag
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I waited tables all thru college. Was called "hon" and sweetie numerous times. Only time I got pissed was when a customer hollered across the patio, "hey, missy". I replied that I have a name and it's not missy. I stayed friends with the guy for many years after. I never felt truly scared or offended. And I made good money.
swimmerbabe11
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If they were rude, I was definitely a smartass. Hon and sweetie etc doesn't bother me at all I joked with my tables plenty and brushed lots of stuff off. I just had zero tolerance for people making creepy sexual comments my way and I wasn't going to foist them off on another girl. Only one girl averaged higher earnings per hour than me according to tip out reports.

I told the owner how I handled that stuff a while back and he asked why I wouldn't have them thrown out on their asses. He actually kicked people out for being crude to waitresses plenty. I didn't make a big deal. They weren't obligated to tip me and I wasn't obligated to put up with Their creepass behavior...no matter how much money they might tip to "Make up for it". Too many dudes think a smartass comment is flirting or a reward..they win if they get a rise out of a girl.

Only table I ever reported to the manager about was a dude who was drunk, not my table, kept grabbing me as I walked by, making creepy comments, and trying to poke me with an empty paper towel roll. Otherwise, handled everything myself.
MillennialAg
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Junkhead said:

k2aggie07 said:

You in the habit of telling random waitresses you want to motorboat them? You think that's normal behavior?

Not at all but I've seen waitresses shut down smartasses like that with one quick comeback without having to run away to daddy to assign a man to their table. Honestly, those waitresses probably get better tips in the end.


Are women supposed to report sexual harassment or Not?

How many times has a poor waitress "shut you down"? Seems like behavior you are familiar with!
Poke_the_Bear
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Grown men that behave like 13 year olds should be treated like 13 yo.
mhayden
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Agree with most of what swimmer is saying.

But if I can't call every waitress sweetheart then I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
Liquid Wrench
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k2aggie07 said:

You in the habit of telling random waitresses you want to motorboat them? You think that's normal behavior?


It's not random at all.
VanZandt92
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Jason_Ag98 said:

Didn't see it posted yet but when the Charlie Rose allegations broke I immediately thought of the compilations of weird sexual comments by him that have appeared on John Oliver's show:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2017/11/21/john-olivers-clips-about-the-awkward-sex-talk-on-charlie-roses-cbs-show-are-extra-creepy-now/?sw_bypass=true&utm_term=.dfb3ee1f8cb4


Dang
YouBet
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Looks to me like Roses co-hosts are hypocrites after reading that article.
marble rye
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Dammit, did swimmer's waitressing put a stop to all the sexual harassment claims?
expresswrittenconsent
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YouBet said:

Looks to me like Roses co-hosts are hypocrites after reading that article.

How so?
rhutton125
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Stumbled across this article today, for what it's worth: http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-sexual-harassment-industries-20171124-story.html

double aught
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From the link address, I thought Biz Markie had gone down. Don't scare me like that.
Liquid Wrench
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rhutton125 said:

Stumbled across this article today, for what it's worth: http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-sexual-harassment-industries-20171124-story.html


Not surprised to see food service up there. And that cuts across all genders and persuasions.
jackie childs
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this thread needs a new celebrity allegation ASAP
TCTTS
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FL_Ag1998
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TCTTS said:




My God, that was one of the harshest diatribes against a celeb I've read in a long time...and I couldn't agree more.
wangus12
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Savage
YouBet
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She's equal to Weinstein in my book. Complete POS.
ellebee
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FL_Ag1998 said:

TCTTS said:




My God, that was one of the harshest diatribes against a celeb I've read in a long time...and I couldn't agree more.


It's fantastic
 
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