She's not hurting for cash.brucoh said:
Soooo everybody knew, but just now his gold digging wife is going to divorce him because of all this?
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Am I missing the joke here?
Yeah not now. I'm sure she just married him because she was very physically attracted to him and loved his personality. And stayed married to him because she was totally in the dark about what POS he was. (although everyone else knew)fig96 said:She's not hurting for cash.brucoh said:
Soooo everybody knew, but just now his gold digging wife is going to divorce him because of all this?
Her business has relied a lot on Harvey coercing actors into wearing her outfits at shows etc. And right now it is caught up in the backlash and may not survive.brucoh said:Yeah not now. I'm sure she just married him because she was very physically attracted to him and loved his personality. And stayed married to him because she was totally in the dark about what POS he was. (although everyone else knew)fig96 said:She's not hurting for cash.brucoh said:
Soooo everybody knew, but just now his gold digging wife is going to divorce him because of all this?
http://www.businessinsider.com/harvey-weinsteins-wife-georgina-chapmans-marchesa-brand-jeopardy-2017-10
https://jezebel.com/how-harvey-weinsteins-hollywood-connections-helped-make-1819282855
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I'm not saying it didn't, but she's also really well known and is a multimillionaire in her own right.nikator said:Her business has relied a lot on Harvey coercing actors into wearing her outfits at shows etc. And right now it is caught up in the backlash and may not survive.brucoh said:Yeah not now. I'm sure she just married him because she was very physically attracted to him and loved his personality. And stayed married to him because she was totally in the dark about what POS he was. (although everyone else knew)fig96 said:She's not hurting for cash.brucoh said:
Soooo everybody knew, but just now his gold digging wife is going to divorce him because of all this?
http://www.businessinsider.com/harvey-weinsteins-wife-georgina-chapmans-marchesa-brand-jeopardy-2017-10
https://jezebel.com/how-harvey-weinsteins-hollywood-connections-helped-make-1819282855
To those of you saying Weinstein is done forever, there is just too many other men that have come back from similar.
Case in point...
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/10/21/business/media/bill-oreilly-sexual-harassment.html?referer=https://t.co/6CSfGoGrJb?amp=1
Case in point...
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/10/21/business/media/bill-oreilly-sexual-harassment.html?referer=https://t.co/6CSfGoGrJb?amp=1
This isn't anywhere in the same vicinity as Bill O'Reilly. I'm not saying the experiences of the women are any less traumatic or valid in O'Reilly's case, but you're ignoring the complete sea change across multiple industries that the Weinstein allegations have spurred. We've never seen anything like this. This truly feels like somewhat of a paradigm shift and has produced a sense of awereness that didn't exist previously. People of power will obviously continue to be scumbags, of course, but the consequences of their actions now have a much higher chance of leading to their demise. And Harvey will forever be pegged as the linchpin that started this new era, so to speak.
So what exactly does a producer like Weinstein do? He doesn't write, act, direct, or anything creative that I understand. Is he just a money guy who chose this industry to throw his money into because it enabled him to bed beautiful women who needed jobs?
I truly have no idea what the hell a producer does. Can someone relate it to an equivalent job in the normal business world?
I truly have no idea what the hell a producer does. Can someone relate it to an equivalent job in the normal business world?
Weinstein acted as producer or executive producer and played a lot of roles.
He was involved in reading scripts that people were pitching and would decide what to buy and produce and what to pass on.
He often would be involved on the back end, cutting out parts of the movie after it was finished to help with pacing or to keep it to a specific amount of time.
Made sure movies were handled well and produced on budget.
He was particularly involved in development of films and selecting scripts to buy.
When Damon/Affleck wrote Good Will Hunting, they wrote a love scene with a graphic blowjob between Damon & Affleck's character. They pitched it to a lot of people and were turned down. Harvey Weinstein bought it but said they had to delete that scene. They said they only put it in to see if anyone actually read their script and HW was the only person that ever mentioned it.
He was involved in reading scripts that people were pitching and would decide what to buy and produce and what to pass on.
He often would be involved on the back end, cutting out parts of the movie after it was finished to help with pacing or to keep it to a specific amount of time.
Made sure movies were handled well and produced on budget.
He was particularly involved in development of films and selecting scripts to buy.
When Damon/Affleck wrote Good Will Hunting, they wrote a love scene with a graphic blowjob between Damon & Affleck's character. They pitched it to a lot of people and were turned down. Harvey Weinstein bought it but said they had to delete that scene. They said they only put it in to see if anyone actually read their script and HW was the only person that ever mentioned it.
A producer also oversees the funding and is the one primarily responsible for attaching the crew and talent. Put simply, the producer has a hand in every facet of pre-production, production, and post-production. Or, to put in sports terms, think of the director as the coach and the producer as the GM. Not quite a 1:1 comparison, but close.
So he's like an involved venture capitalist reading business plans (scripts), deciding what to invest in, and once invested he may mentor a business and make suggestions (like a board member or advisor).
And that makes him famous and powerful enough to get away with rape and harassment for 30 years? No wonder Hollywood attracts these types by the bushel.
And that makes him famous and powerful enough to get away with rape and harassment for 30 years? No wonder Hollywood attracts these types by the bushel.
Kind of, but way more hands on. The producer is literally the only person involved from the inception to release of a movie, and they're on set quite a bit as well. They ultimately hold more power than anyone involved, even the director.
Likely so.HvilleAggie said:
Am I missing the joke here?
TCTTS said:
Kind of, but way more hands on. The producer is literally the only person involved from the inception to release of a movie, and they're on set quite a bit as well. They ultimately hold more power than anyone involved, even the director.
Isn't this why producers accept the best picture awards? Not that I've watched the Oscars is years, but they usually accept and make the speech.
Exactly.
Does anyone have an idea if Weinstein may have treated those of different backgrounds any differently? This may be one of the under-reported aspects of this sordid tale.
(Lupita Nyong'o has made accusations, but she's one of the very few - and perhaps the only person - that he has specifically denied.)
https://www.buzzfeed.com/bimadewunmi/lets-talk-about-black-women-in-hollywood-and-harvey?utm_term=.ke5J3NwWW#.gwLjVJpXX
(Lupita Nyong'o has made accusations, but she's one of the very few - and perhaps the only person - that he has specifically denied.)
https://www.buzzfeed.com/bimadewunmi/lets-talk-about-black-women-in-hollywood-and-harvey?utm_term=.ke5J3NwWW#.gwLjVJpXX
I can't put my finger on why..but that was really cringey to me.
Feels like this is starting to evolve beyond sexual harassment / rape and into taking a stand against assh*les in general. If so, I say let the levy break. I like Russell's movies overall, but if never seeing another one again means he and more assh*les like him getting kicked to the curb - and that aspect of Hollywood changing for the better even a little bit - let's just go all the way with this...
swimmerbabe11 said:
I can't put my finger on why..but that was really cringey to me.
He sounds like he's scared and doesn't know how p.c. to be. Cowardice and dishonesty - that's the Hollywood way.
Mr. White said:swimmerbabe11 said:
I can't put my finger on why..but that was really cringey to me.
He sounds like he's scared and doesn't know how p.c. to be. Cowardice and dishonesty - that's the Hollywood way.
I watched that video after reading these two comments, preparing for the worst, but can't for the life of me figure out what was even remotely cringey or cowardice about anything he said. In fact, I think Hanks said literally the EXACT right things there.
Some of you want so desperately for Hollywood to fit your negative idea of it, that you ascribe so much of your own bias and stereotypes to it. Sure, there are horrible people out here, same as there are in politics and finance and dozens of other industries. Sure, there are a ton of sanctimonious liberals out here, too. And I'm not saying "cowardice and dishonestly" aren't rampant out here either. But trying so desperately to ascribe those traits and those stereotypes to Tom Hanks, of all people, in that video - and to paint an entire industry with that brush without having any real knowledge of the broader spectrum that makes up this town - just comes across as so lame and agenda-driven.
Kind of like what Hollywood does to suburban America. A long history of films about how awful, strange, evil our non-urban centers are. Suburbicon being the latest.TCTTS said:Mr. White said:
Some of you want so desperately for Hollywood to fit your negative idea of it, that you ascribe so much of your own bias and stereotypes to it. Sure, there are horrible people out here, same as there are in politics and finance and dozens of other industries. Sure, there are a ton of sanctimonious liberals out here, too.
Anyone who calls Tom Hanks a coward will have me to answer to.
I wasn't the one who said cowardice or dishonesty. I honestly don't know what it was about his response that made me uneasy. Something just didn't sit right.
probably because well all know that Tom Hanks knew about Harvey and plenty of others in the business. it's becoming more and more apparent that everyone knew. the feigned ignorance and shock is ridiculous.swimmerbabe11 said:
I wasn't the one who said cowardice or dishonesty. I honestly don't know what it was about his response that made me uneasy. Something just didn't sit right.
STOP TRYING TO MANSPLAIN WHY TOM HANKS MADE ME UNCOMFORTABLE
Just watched it again.
No, honestly, I don't think I have heard him speak much outside his acting roles so that was odd. However, I think the big thing is that anytime you say a section of people, especially one that includes yourself, should sit down and shut up...thats a huge cop out and abdication of roles and responsibilities. Hollywood needs to be like the NYC subway trains "see something, say something". It's specifically being quiet that led to this culture. Moreso, it's such a canned response that doesn't mean anything.
I just didn't feel like he said anything particularly genuine.
Lastly, quotas for women in executive board rooms is a laughably bad idea and he goes "of course of course". Having females involved in decision making processes, especially in an industry catering to both genders equally is important. Quotas are stupid, breed resentment, and encourage nepotism/just putting someone in to fill a seat. That doesnt really help.
But mostly, he just didn't seem very genuine/human and I really don't know why.
Just watched it again.
No, honestly, I don't think I have heard him speak much outside his acting roles so that was odd. However, I think the big thing is that anytime you say a section of people, especially one that includes yourself, should sit down and shut up...thats a huge cop out and abdication of roles and responsibilities. Hollywood needs to be like the NYC subway trains "see something, say something". It's specifically being quiet that led to this culture. Moreso, it's such a canned response that doesn't mean anything.
I just didn't feel like he said anything particularly genuine.
Lastly, quotas for women in executive board rooms is a laughably bad idea and he goes "of course of course". Having females involved in decision making processes, especially in an industry catering to both genders equally is important. Quotas are stupid, breed resentment, and encourage nepotism/just putting someone in to fill a seat. That doesnt really help.
But mostly, he just didn't seem very genuine/human and I really don't know why.
People so comfortable working in this atmosphere have a disposition to perpetuating it from the top down. I am guessing the story will continue to evolve to soon start showing that these #Me too actors and actresses at the middle and top of the food chain actually do the exact same sort of thing regularly to assistants, nannies, bit part players.
I'm kind of surprised that Terry Richardson hasn't come back up in this Weinstein mess. His actions are pretty well documented.
agreed. i remember seeing stuff about him a couple of years ago and then it died off.Guitarsoup said:
I'm kind of surprised that Terry Richardson hasn't come back up in this Weinstein mess. His actions are pretty well documented.
Report: Photographer Terry Richardson Has Been Banned From Vogue And GQ Amid The Harvey Weinstein ScandalFurlock Bones said:agreed. i remember seeing stuff about him a couple of years ago and then it died off.Guitarsoup said:
I'm kind of surprised that Terry Richardson hasn't come back up in this Weinstein mess. His actions are pretty well documented.
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"A man without a belly is like a house without a balcony"
- Old Turkish saying
"A man without a belly is like a house without a balcony"
- Old Turkish saying
Hollywood has a verrrry strong magnetism.... Who at one point didn't think being a movie star would be a great job? People putting up with a whole lot of BS out there for a long long time to live their dream, or at least be in the orbit.Red Dane said:
People so comfortable working in this atmosphere have a disposition to perpetuating it from the top down. I am guessing the story will continue to evolve to soon start showing that these #Me too actors and actresses at the middle and top of the food chain actually do the exact same sort of thing regularly to assistants, nannies, bit part players.
And there are just as many movies that are nostalgic for suburban America and treat it with the reverence you apparently think it deserves. Again, it's laughable how badly some of you want Hollywood to fit your narrative of it. Sure, plenty of Hollywood types mock suburban America, and plenty more hold it in high regard.... as do people all over the country who have opinions on both "sides." I know people in my hometown of Wichita Falls, TX - which is 90% suburbs - who hate suburban America more than anyone I've ever known out here. That, and maybe try actually understanding the social/geographical make up of the place you're critiquing first. The vast majority of "Hollywood" lives in normal, suburban American, be it in the valley, Thousand Oakes, Calabasas, Studio City, Pasadena, etc. What you consider "Hollywood" - the Hollywood Hills, Beverly Hills, Malibu, etc. - is a tiny minority, comparatively.WestAustinAg said:Kind of like what Hollywood does to suburban America. A long history of films about how awful, strange, evil our non-urban centers are. Suburbicon being the latest.TCTTS said:Mr. White said:
Some of you want so desperately for Hollywood to fit your negative idea of it, that you ascribe so much of your own bias and stereotypes to it. Sure, there are horrible people out here, same as there are in politics and finance and dozens of other industries. Sure, there are a ton of sanctimonious liberals out here, too.
Do you even Woodland Hills, bro?
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