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He wants to be right. That is the bottom line on most of his posts.

Spilner. Despite the fact that you and I disagree often and, frankly, clearly don't seem to like each other (at least the online versions of ourselves), I am constantly bending over backwards to try and find common ground, get along with you, and compliment you when you link to something cool or have a good theory/idea on something. Yes, I deliver a playful jab your way from time to time, and maybe I shouldn't, but it's pretty apparent that you're projecting onto me here. Despite my efforts to get along, you post from time to time these snide, snarky remarks directed at me, and this one in particular is just blatantly false.

Because I have admitted MULTIPLE times today, in this thread, that I was wrong. In fact, not only here, but on this board in general, I ALWAYS go out of my way to either admit when I was wrong about something - or - caveat a post of mine saying that I could be wrong about whatever it is I'm predicting, answering, etc. With the amount of questions I'm asked daily on this board, I do my absolute best to make it known that I may not have an answer, but will do what I can to give the most informed opinion I can. And yet, without fail, even though the question was asked of ME, and I admittedly don't fully know the answer to it, someone like you ALWAYS chimes in after the fact and calls me out for being wrong or for being a know-it-all or that I can't stand not being right or some other ridiculous bullsh*t. When, in reality, anyone with two eyes and a shred of common sense sees how many disclaimers I post or that I swoop in the second I realize something I said doesn't end up being true and I fully cop to getting it wrong. I do this time and again and am extremely self conscious in trying to present a sense of transparency when it comes to my right or wrongness.

And frankly, I'm ******* sick of this attitude toward me from those who so desperately want me to be the bad guy or the "king" who's always trying to rain on everyone's parade from my ivory tower in the Hollywood hills or whatever - who is also apparently secretly obsessed with showing a bunch of commoners how right and knowledgeable I am. When, in reality, I try and I try and I try to continually say that I don't have all the answers, and make an effort to admit when I'm wrong. But because I still defend my opinions more often than not, don't like the prequels, or can't stand the endless parade of people coming to an entertainment board to sh*t all over Hollywood, I'm some high and mighty assh*le who "just doesn't get it" or has my head so far up Harvey Weinstein's ass that I can't see the truth.


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SeattleAgJr said:
TCTTS has admitted his line of thinking has changed, and quite a bit. Not sure why you are going on about this.
Because he still is claiming that Hardwick is an a-hole and chooses to only believe negative tweets merely because he "rubbed him the wrong way" (without ever having met him).

Hell he is even apparently ignoring a glowing video by Dykstra herself saying all the kind things he did for her after surgery. If he was fundamentally an a-hole and did 1/5th of the crap Dykstra claims he did, then he would never have done that.

aTmAg. Do you REALLY not see the irony in the standard you're holding me to? I think Hardwick is an assh*le. I have every right to believe that, and only a percentage of that belief is based on Dykstra's claims, which likely at least hold a shred of truth despite her craziness. I don't think what she did was right, and I don't think Hardwick deserved to lose his job over it. I'm merely saying that it's not one or the other. She can be a crazy lier and he can still be an assh*le. One doesn't necessarily negate the other.

But now YOU'RE the one snapping to judgement - because we STILL don't have the full picture - and now you're judging me for... I don't even know what anymore. All I know that it has everything to do with me not agreeing with you. Even though I've said I have. Which makes you insufferably stubborn in the face of me saying over and over again that I was wrong. Same as Spilner, it's clear that you have a narrative you're going to stick to no matter what, no matter what I say, and this too is something I am beyond fed up with from not only you, but a handful of hard-headed posters who desperately want me to be some Hollywood assh*le I simply am not.

So, with that, in addition to a number of other increasingly toxic factors on this board... I'm out. Not for good, but for a good, long while. Maybe some of that toxicity lies within myself, for how much and how passionately I either choose or am forced to defend myself on this board, or because of the know-it-all impression of me so many of you have, and that I no doubt fall into from time to time. So, for the time being, I'm simply going to remove myself from the equation and hopefully this place can somehow return to some sort of equilibrium or chill. Because the finger pointing and the arguing and the all around negative atmosphere has been building and building, and tempers have been increasingly flaring over the last few months, to the point where this board just straight up isn't fun anymore. I miss what it used to be, and hopefully it can return to that without my presence for a while. I simply don't know what else to do.

And this isn't some pity party either. I need a break from this place as much as some of you seemingly need a break from me. I have a script I need to have done by Labor Day, along with three shows we're trying to set up by then as well, and I can't keep wasting time arguing with a bunch of axe-grinders on the internet. At least not for the next few weeks. So, yeah... I'm out. And while I am, hopefully some of you can get your dislike of me out of your system, or can get over your apparent seething hatred of Hollywood while I'm not around to fan the flames.
DannyDuberstein
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The politics board may be nutty, but this board wins the crown for taking itself too seriously.
YouBet
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DannyDuberstein said:

The politics board may be nutty, but this board wins the crown for taking itself too seriously.


It's not nutty if you are just factually correct the vast majority of the time.
schmendeler
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I read that first post you quoted to be about atmag, not you. But I could be wrong.
DannyDuberstein
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schmendeler said:

I read that first post you quoted to be about atmag, not you. But I could be wrong.


Pretty sure you're not wrong
aTmAg
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So if I was really interested in merely "winning", I would take this post as "victory", but that is not what I am interested in. I do not hold any personal grudge against you or have any interest in you leaving the board. This place is typically light hearted, and it's not my intent on "making it serious".

The only reason I'm up in arms in this thread a little is because a person has had his career ruined over bogus claims. And the reason I'm focusing on you since is that you are taking the stance of "well, maybe he didn't do it, but he's still an A-hole". That perhaps he still deserves some of what he is getting.

That is still a disservice to this guy based on what we know publicly. Maybe he is an A-hole, but I see no evidence of that. Perhaps you know something you aren't sharing that would explain the apparent disdain for this guy. I just don't understand where it is coming from. So please if you or anybody has a link from before this news breaking that show he was an a-hole. Please share it. I wouldn't feel so bad for the guy anymore.



I don't expect you to read this or respond... but that's where I'm coming from.
Belton Ag
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schmendeler said:

I read that first post you quoted to be about atmag, not you. But I could be wrong.
Yeah, I thought Spilner was talking about about aTmAg, which was why I made the jab about the banking thing.
aTmAg
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Belton Ag said:

schmendeler said:

I read that first post you quoted to be about atmag, not you. But I could be wrong.
Yeah, I thought Spilner was talking about about aTmAg, which was why I made the jab about the banking thing.
Yeah, clearly that was to me. It seems like TCTTS and Spliner have some personal issues to work out, though.
Belton Ag
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aTmAg said:

Belton Ag said:

schmendeler said:

I read that first post you quoted to be about atmag, not you. But I could be wrong.
Yeah, I thought Spilner was talking about about aTmAg, which was why I made the jab about the banking thing.
Yeah, clearly that was to me. It seems like TCTTS and Spliner have some personal issues to work out.
Seems like it. And I hope you understand the banking thing was a silly joke.
Bunk Moreland
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If it's OK with everyone, I hate you all.... Makes posting a lot easier that way.
aTmAg
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Belton Ag said:

aTmAg said:

Belton Ag said:

schmendeler said:

I read that first post you quoted to be about atmag, not you. But I could be wrong.
Yeah, I thought Spilner was talking about about aTmAg, which was why I made the jab about the banking thing.
Yeah, clearly that was to me. It seems like TCTTS and Spliner have some personal issues to work out.
Seems like it. And I hope you understand the banking thing was a silly joke.
Yeah, I was trying to joke back, but my joke sucked. I was on my phone (at a red light), so I didn't have the time to make up anything wittier. Pretend what I said there was hilarious.
Fairview
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Can y'all maybe take the argument to another thread or PM and keep this thread focused on Hollywood perverts?


SeattleAgJr
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TCTTS,

I read Spilner's reply as him referring to ATMAG, not you, about HIM wanting to always be right.

I may be wrong, but that is how I read it.
Brian Earl Spilner
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Dude. That was not to you.
aTmAg
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Besides, Spliner is wrong. I don't want to always be right. I think we are going to have a depression worse than the great depression within a decade or two. I hope I'm wrong about that.

I think Spliner and TCTTS need to hug it out for a while. Maybe spoon.
rhutton125
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This thread sucks now. Again, let's let the facts shake out over time. No need to pick a side.
Know Your Enemy
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We need a new accusation to get this thread back on track.
The Collective
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DannyDuberstein said:

The politics board may be nutty, but this board wins the crown for taking itself too seriously.

SeattleAgJr
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Junkhead said:

We need a new accusation to get this thread back on track.
I gratuitously molested myself to Phoebe Cates in the pool scene in "Fast Times at Ridgemont High" when I was younger.
DannyDuberstein
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On a celebrity scandal note. i think Andre Iguodala wants toWeinstein Luka Doncic's mom
Brian Earl Spilner
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Clearly we can get on each other's nerves once in a while, but "bending over backwards"? That seems a bit much man. I honestly did not realize I bothered you this much.

(And yes, my response was to Seattle regarding aTm, I didn't realize it looked confusing until now.)

My bad, but at least the real **** is out in the open now. Anyone else have anything they want to get out? Hah.
DannyDuberstein
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Which i cant say i blame him
aTmAg
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I understand Rosie O'Donnell sexually assaulted Rossanne Barr.

Maybe one of you guys can find video of that.
jamaggie06
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#youtoo...?
DannyDuberstein
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aTmAg said:

I understand Rosie O'Donnell sexually assaulted Rossanne Barr.

Maybe one of you guys can find video of that.


Sounds like a good way to start a grease fire
The Collective
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I didn't realize there was any hostility between Spilner and TCTTS. I've always thought BES stood up for him more often than not.
Know Your Enemy
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SeattleAgJr said:

Junkhead said:

We need a new accusation to get this thread back on track.
I gratuitously molested myself to Phoebe Cates in the pool scene in "Fast Times at Ridgemont High" when I was younger.

#metoo
SeattleAgJr
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Or put one out if you have both of them roll around on the ground to smother it.
Brian Earl Spilner
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Sigh.

Somehow in trying to defend TC I ended up sending him over the edge.

In any case I still apologize for creating the confusion. Here's hoping you still read this.
Brian Earl Spilner
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Man, I laughed hard at this though.
SeattleAgJr
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I am sure he will read it and realize he read it wrong. I would not worry about it too much.
SeattleAgJr
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

Man, I laughed hard at this though.


They could still pull prints today if they really wanted to.

#CSISeattle
Brian Earl Spilner
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aTmAg said:

I understand Rosie O'Donnell sexually assaulted Rossanne Barr.

Maybe one of you guys can find video of that.


double aught
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Way to go you guys. You broke TC.
TCTTS
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

Sigh.

Somehow in trying to defend TC I ended up sending him over the edge.

In any case I still apologize for creating the confusion. Here's hoping you still read this.

I just tried messaging you privately, but am only now realizing that PMs are apparently a paid feature. If not, for the life of me, I cannot figure out how to message someone.

Anyway, I just wanted to say that I'm sorry for what I said above, and also for the misinterpretation. I've been feeling the hate a lot lately from a decent chunk of posters, was looking for a reason to vent, saw your post, and jumped to conclusions.

That, and I really do appreciate everything you bring to the board, even if we disagree from time to time and have had our little spats here and there in the past. You seem to genuinely love the overall E-board discussion as much as I do, and I sometimes take that for granted when getting overly defensive about whatever dumb thing it is we're all arguing about. I shouldn't have lashed out like that, and I should better appreciate those who truly enjoy all that we discuss. I also think I was looking for a reason or an excuse to tap out for a while, and went overboard in jumping at an opportunity to do so.

That said, I legitimately do need a break. I'm busier than ever and have let TexAgs take up a bit too much of my time lately. It's all good, I just need to refocus and come back fresh and a little less intense here in a couple or a few weeks.

Again, apologies, and talk to you guys soon.
 
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