***** Official 2017 Astros Off Season Thread *****

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It's happening
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I'm withholding excitement.

IIRC last spring he didn't give up a run in 17 IP or something like that. We saw how that worked out.
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CC w/ a 3 run bomb for PR today
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AJ Reed hit a grand slam in our preason game today.
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Nice bat flip

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Took some lessons from Valbuena!
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bigbass1170 said:

Took some lessons from Valbuena!


I've yet to see Correa batflip on a groundout.
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For anyone that bets....

Correas home run over/under is set at 21.5.

I put a couple hundred on the over.
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Today's ST game is on MLB network at noon
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Bovada?
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local bookie. Its online though on a format that a lot of bookies use.
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Facing FTA Michael Wacha too!
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Mlbtraderumors:

The Braves announced on Monday that they've claimed left-handed reliever Kevin Chapman off waivers from the Astros. Houston reportedly placed the 29-year-old Chapman on waivers over the weekend. Atlanta had an open spot on its 40-man roster, so no corresponding move is necessary.
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Hope we don't face chapman this year. That guy is a danger on the mound. He couldn't find the strike zone with Lewis and Clark leading him
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Just checking out some the stats from ST and a couple things jumped out

Moran is hitting .389 and is getting some time at 1B
Singleton is hitting .133...Dude is done
Besides his first batter faced Giles looks to be in good form with 8 Ks in 4 IP
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Have we talked about Bregman not having a real spring training?

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Bregman, the youngest member of the U.S. team, is behind established stars Nolan Arenado at third base and Brandon Crawford at shortstop on the depth chart and has been on the field for only half of an inning on defense in addition to the pinch-hit at-bat.

"The downside of being on a star-studded team is very minimal playing time," said Hinch, who spoke with Bregman late Sunday. "There's not much he can do about it. Going five or six days with one at-bat is a tough part about being on that team as a reserve."
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Mr.Ackar07 said:

Have we talked about Bregman not having a real spring training?

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Bregman, the youngest member of the U.S. team, is behind established stars Nolan Arenado at third base and Brandon Crawford at shortstop on the depth chart and has been on the field for only half of an inning on defense in addition to the pinch-hit at-bat.

"The downside of being on a star-studded team is very minimal playing time," said Hinch, who spoke with Bregman late Sunday. "There's not much he can do about it. Going five or six days with one at-bat is a tough part about being on that team as a reserve."

I didn't realize that, honestly. I get wanting to represent your country, I really do. But we need him on from the start of the year - it would be much better if he was with the team.
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Not worried. All he needs is 32 ABs to get it going.
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I don't think Singleton is trying anymore. Dude is almost Prince Fielder size at this point...
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Breg really needs to be in ST. I hate to say that, but as an Astros fan, it's what's best.
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CorpsAg11 said:

I don't think Singleton is trying anymore. Dude is almost Prince Fielder size at this point...


He got paid and threw the hat in. Have a nice life Jon. We hardly knew ya
CFTXAG10
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Ran into him at Lincoln not too long ago. Buddy of mine pointed him out and I didn't believe the guy played baseball. Rough....
CFTXAG10
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Stumbled across this gem tonight....

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CFTXAG10 said:

Stumbled across this gem tonight....


What a badass. While I'm sure this is against some un-written rule, that was an awesome memory I had completely forgotten about.
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zagman said:

CorpsAg11 said:

I don't think Singleton is trying anymore. Dude is almost Prince Fielder size at this point...


He got paid and threw the hat in. Have a nice life Jon. We hardly knew ya
Let this be a lesson in incentives to any of you who control budgets out there. Your employees respond to incentives. Novel concept for some.
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CFTXAG10 said:

Stumbled across this gem tonight....



I feel like today's umps would call this a ball b/c the pitch has to go exactly where the catcher is set up these days to be a strike.
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And doesn't the new rule eliminate actual pitches on an IW?
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Buck Compton said:

zagman said:

CorpsAg11 said:

I don't think Singleton is trying anymore. Dude is almost Prince Fielder size at this point...


He got paid and threw the hat in. Have a nice life Jon. We hardly knew ya
Let this be a lesson in incentives to any of you who control budgets out there. Your employees respond to incentives. Novel concept for some.
Well whoever writes A&M's coaching contracts sure hasn't learned.
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Not everyone gets complacent when cashing in, and I don't think that's why Singleton struggles. He just didn't pan out. Smart decision by him to agree to the deal when he did.
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Personally, I wouldn't have offered that kind of contract to a guy with the drug history he has. I know it may be a bit judgy but cmon...Potheads and especially those who claim to be addicted to it like Jon says he is tend to be lazy and DGAF anyways.

Give any kind of addict a contract early on and I'd bet the majority of them will flame out. It's a recipe for failure.
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iBrad said:

Not everyone gets complacent when cashing in, and I don't think that's why Singleton struggles. He just didn't pan out. Smart decision by him to agree to the deal when he did.
Only people who are internally motivated or driven by a passion continue to drive after an incentive like that goes away. After trying a million other things, the most effective incentive has still proven to be money. If you have any motivation concerns, you don't offer a contract like that.

Your end goal is to find out what motivates someone and then structure their incentives to reward them with that thing when they perform how you want them to perform. It's still a lesson to learn for many people (not a single person that works for me has identical pay or vacation structures) and I figured it was worth calling out. For many athletes it is still money.

I think it is pretty clear based on his weight and lack of improvement that his motivation isn't the same. Was he ever going to be great? We don't know - and probably not. But to pretend the contract didn't take off some of the financial pressure that was driving him to work towards the MLB is asinine. And that's not even meant as a personal slight to him - it's far easier to chase the dream than to know how to act or what to do when you achieve it.
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http://thebiglead.com/2017/03/14/alex-bregman-calls-out-rougned-odor-for-bat-flipping-a-single-shouldnt-have-deleted-it/
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irish pete ag06 said:

http://thebiglead.com/2017/03/14/alex-bregman-calls-out-rougned-odor-for-bat-flipping-a-single-shouldnt-have-deleted-it/
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irish pete ag06 said:

http://thebiglead.com/2017/03/14/alex-bregman-calls-out-rougned-odor-for-bat-flipping-a-single-shouldnt-have-deleted-it/
 
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