***UEFA Euro 2024 Thread***

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The hate for Ronaldo is always crazy to me
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Roberto Martinez handicapped his team today. Portugal probably has more overall talent than any team in the comp and he completely mismanaged their squad.

As a Liverpool fan, I'm happy he didn't get Jota injured, but his decision to leave him on the bench was idiotic.
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AG@RICE said:

Roberto Martinez handicapped his team today. Portugal probably has more overall talent than any team in the comp and he completely mismanaged their squad.

As a Liverpool fan, I'm happy he didn't get Jota injured, but his decision to leave him on the bench was idiotic.


Yeah this game was begging for a super sub Diogo coming in and popping up for a goal. He's better than Figo, don't you know?
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I still think France has the most talent but they're handicapped by Deschamp.
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AggieCrew44 said:

The hate for Ronaldo is always crazy to me


Agree. I also find it super weird that people don't root for a self-centered narcissist who paid hush money to avoid a rape conviction.
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agdoc2001 said:

AggieCrew44 said:

The hate for Ronaldo is always crazy to me


Agree. I also find it super weird that people don't root for a self-centered narcissist who paid hush money to avoid a rape conviction.
Settling for 700K when the person you are accusing has a net worth of $500 million isn't exactly exuding a lot of confidence in your accusation

Im not defending any actions that may or may not have happened. But no one knows the real story except them. Calling him a rapist with no proof is crazy
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Well a reputable German publication which has a history in investigative reporting had possession of a document that

" the interpretation of which almost necessarily leads to the conclusion that Ronaldo admitted to his lawyers that he had sex with Kathryn Mayorga against her express will."

The document was acquired illegally through a leak/hack. But Ronaldo's lawyers tried to file an injunction prohibiting the publication from even reporting that they had it…but they lost.

Some may require a conviction in court but for many Der Spiegel's assessment is more than enough considering their history of investigative journalism. Which I think is fair considering the court of public opinion isn't a court of law.
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Heck even without the alleged rape, he was busted for tax evasion and had to pay nearly 20 million euros in fines. He easily could have gotten jail time, but he's CR.
His departure from Man U was beyond classless for someone of his stature https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/12747058/cristiano-ronaldo-manchester-united-forward-says-he-feels-betrayed-and-has-no-respect-for-erik-ten-hag)
And while it might not bother some here, taking the Saudi money and helping them sportswash to me is just more of who he is.
He's just the Novak of soccer, amazing talent who always seems to be in the middle of a controversy.
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Reports indicate that Ronaldo is interested in joining the Las Vegas Lights if they become an MLS franchise.

Google 'Ronaldo Las Vegas' for more.
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To pay tribute to Dani Olmo's MOTM for Spain today, I'll throwback to the best legal trickery I've ever seen in a game at a high level; from the German Super Cup a few years ago.



One of my favorite players, but sadly for me, he's as good as gone once this tourney is over. 60M release clause that expires mid-month.
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oragator said:

Heck even without the alleged rape, he was busted for tax evasion and had to pay nearly 20 million euros in fines. He easily could have gotten jail time, but he's CR.
His departure from Man U was beyond classless for someone of his stature https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/12747058/cristiano-ronaldo-manchester-united-forward-says-he-feels-betrayed-and-has-no-respect-for-erik-ten-hag)
And while it might not bother some here, taking the Saudi money and helping them sportswash to me is just more of who he is.
He's just the Novak of soccer, amazing talent who always seems to be in the middle of a controversy.
Messi did literally the exact same thing with the tax fraud. He avoided jail time because he's Messi

Don't act like if someone offered you $100 million a year to play a sport you wouldn't do it. He's not the first or the last big time player that will do it

A lot of athletes we cheer for are very imperfect humans
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Its why you should never care what any athlete or actor does outside of the realm you watch them in. They arent your heros, they are entertainment.
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Not that I could prove it here, but I truly wouldn't take it. I am one of those weird people that needs a clean conscience in life. Granted I'm fortunate that's it's easier to do from a solid position financially (though not nearly $100 million), but he was also already north of 500 million in net worth before that contract, which is why claims of "look at all the money!" rang hollow to me. He had multi generational wealth already. I also said other may have a different POV on that, which is fine.
And again, that's before the rape allegation, the financial fraud, the way he left Man U etc. But if others want to like him have at it. He's just not for me.
This is a thread about a tournament though so it doesn't need to be dragged out. He's gone now anyway


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PatAg said:

Its why you should never care what any athlete or actor does outside of the realm you watch them in. They arent your heros, they are entertainment.


TO THE DROP ZONE!!!
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agdoc2001 said:

AggieCrew44 said:

The hate for Ronaldo is always crazy to me


Agree. I also find it super weird that people don't root for a self-centered narcissist who paid hush money to avoid a rape conviction.

Hush money or legal extortion? I'm in the camp that she was DTF, but looked at the situation from an opportunist perspective.

CR7 should have known better to engage randoms at the bar.
TO THE DROP ZONE!!!
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FWIW, I've never been a CR7 fan…still have PTSD from Moscow, 2008.
TO THE DROP ZONE!!!
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If you play your cards right you can watch ten hours of almost uninterrupted international soccer today.
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PatAg said:

Its why you should never care what any athlete or actor does outside of the realm you watch them in. They arent your heros, they are entertainment.
I appreciate the notion of not getting on a moral high-horse. Lord knows we all have our own demons, and when you're given money and fame, the temptations multiply.

But I do think you can't separate the two, if for no other reason than that so frequently whatever demons a player has end up translating to their on-field play. For the sake of brevity, I'll just use Weston as an example of how off-field indulgence and indiscretion is affecting his on-field performance. Or another famous example for us Aggies would be JFF. But there are countless others.

And on the flip side, I do think it is worth admiring people in any profession who get money/fame/power yet manage to keep their nose relatively clean despite the trappings.
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Let's go Swiss. Why? Because why not?
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Southgate actually changed the formation? Wow
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oh no said:

Let's go Swiss. Why? Because why not?


I really love to see the tabloids lose their mind when England loses. The media and their fans deserve disappointment
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He did and I like the idea of this one. England 11 is so strong … on paper
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I wonder when the last time Saka played wing back was
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Trippier is a good wing back. Saka is an experiment but I'd have more confidence with saka at WB than that first match when Alexander Arnold was playing as a central mf
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The ref for this game seems to be really on top of things. Done a pretty good job so far managing the game and keeping the players in check
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oh no said:

Trippier is a good wing back.


False. Trippier is a disaster and has zero legs at this point. He and Kane jog up and down the pitch which is why there's no one to get on the end of Saka's crosses.
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Why not Trent at wing back? Seems like a better fit than Saka
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He didnt change the formation...maybe on paper, but he is still playing trippier and walker along with 2 central playing defenders. It's literally the same lineup minus one swap at cb due to cards.

Saka isn't defending and is just setting up shop as a wide forward.

The team is collectively pushing forward more, buts its basically the same setup as the previous game.
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You earn a corner and don't even get the ball in the box? Fail.
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Win a corner. A set piece with designed plays and free guaranteed service into the box. So what do you do, England? Play it short and all the way back to your keeper.
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Can we all agree that when you play a corner kick all the way back to your keeper, you've taken playing it out of the back too far?
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How did the ref miss that handball???
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I like how everyone is like "Ok, England look a lot better in this formation" and yet they have exactly 3 shots and 0 on goal.
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They need to forget that the invisible man Harry Kane exists and just play through Jude or try to set up Foden's left foot.
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Crispin Torque said:

Why not Trent at wing back? Seems like a better fit than Saka


He's not really even playing wing back. Walker is filling in behind him and he's occupying his usual IF position 90% of this match
 
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