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Gunfight at the Twin Peaks [Staff Warning on page 47]

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45-70Ag
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9:33p, 8/13/15
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I guess when the caliber of the bullets used is made public, that will identify who fired on who?
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In reply to AgBQ-00 • 9:58p, 8/13/15
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That is a lot of head shots
The must have had Deputy Sheriff Rick Grimes on the scene.
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10:33p, 8/13/15
Top of the melon, and one in the eye and multiple shot in the back. Be interesting when the ballistics come in.
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9:46a, 8/14/15
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Gag order remains in effect at least another 30 days if I'm reading this right.
http://www.wacotrib.com/news/twin-peaks-biker-shooting/court-of-criminal-appeals-stays-lower-court-order-in-biker/article_038337fa-5652-510e-a64b-18f3d7d89746.html
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In reply to [removed post] • 9:49a, 8/14/15
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That is a lot of head shots


I haven't read all the reports but based on the few I looked at the reporter is in error. For example, Rhynes was shot in the neck and abdomen, not with two head shots.
Looks like Witherspoon at the Trib got that one right:

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/twin-peaks-biker-shooting/autopsies-released-in-twin-peaks-biker-deaths/article_4b1e45fb-3941-540c-9783-ecc9908c366a.html
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9:49a, 8/14/15
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Richard Vincent Kirschner, Jr., 47, died of gunshots to the left buttock,right thigh and knee.

How do you die from this? Must not have received treatment for hours.
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In reply to Moxie • 9:52a, 8/14/15
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Richard Vincent Kirschner, Jr., 47, died of gunshots to the left buttock,right thigh and knee.

How do you die from this? Must not have received treatment for hours.
Artery in the thigh was probably severed.
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In reply to Moxie • 9:53a, 8/14/15
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Richard Vincent Kirschner, Jr., 47, died of gunshots to the left buttock,right thigh and knee.

How do you die from this? Must not have received treatment for hours.
Femoral artery if I had to guess.
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9:54a, 8/14/15
Right thigh = major artery. If that was clipped, exsanguination happens in a couple of minutes.
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In reply to 45-70Ag • 10:11a, 8/14/15
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I guess when the caliber of the bullets used is made public, that will identify who fired on who?
If you click the name of the person you can see full details...

Lots of bullet wounds identified as 1/4"...

Cops don't carry .25 cal's...
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In reply to Sailor • 7:42p, 8/14/15
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Right thigh = major artery. If that was clipped, exsanguination happens in a couple of minutes.
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In reply to Moxie • 9:27a, 8/16/15
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Richard Vincent Kirschner, Jr., 47, died of gunshots to the left buttock,right thigh and knee.

How do you die from this? Must not have received treatment for hours.


Trying to make something out of nothing
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In reply to Player To Be Named Later • 9:54a, 8/16/15
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Why I always laugh when I read comments (not usually on here) abouting needing to teach folks to shoot for the legs.
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In reply to Sailor • 10:12a, 8/16/15
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Right thigh = major artery. If that was clipped, exsanguination happens in a couple of minutes.

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6:25p, 9/14/15
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http://news.yahoo.com/texas-officials-under-scrutiny-biker-shootout-case-134230082

Apparently still no charges have been filed.
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In reply to techno-ag • 7:06p, 9/14/15
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Richard Vincent Kirschner, Jr., 47, died of gunshots to the left buttock,right thigh and knee.

How do you die from this? Must not have received treatment for hours.
Artery in the thigh was probably severed.
That's supposedly a major cause of death of bullfighters -- the bull's horns slice the artery and the bullfighter bleeds out very quickly.

I suspect it's probably not as big a problem with modern medicine as it used to be.
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In reply to ChipFTAC01 • 7:19p, 9/14/15
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http://news.yahoo.com/texas-officials-under-scrutiny-biker-shootout-case-134230082

Apparently still no charges have been filed.
Charges were filed within hours or days. But, apparently, no cases have gone before the grand jury for indictment.
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7:28p, 9/14/15
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I suspect it's probably not as big a problem with modern medicine as it used to be.

Gunshot injuries to the brachial (arm/biceps) or femoral (thigh) arteries can kill pretty quickly.
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7:52p, 9/14/15
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This is a little off the current dialogue but I thought some may find it interesting. I haven't followed this story much, but had a chance to chat with a good friend mine that is a U.S. attorney in TX the other night.

He said this is one of the most botched cases he has ever seen and that it just gets worse the more you find out. The Waco folks tried to get the Feds to get involved and after a cursory look, they not only said no, but F no.
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In reply to Moxie • 8:41p, 9/14/15
He bled out. EMS did not go in and start Triaging, until scene was determined safe. Agreed it was probably severed femoral artery.
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1:39p, 10/15/15
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Over 150 days since the shooting.

The second grand jury has been empaneled.

Not a single person of the ~180 arrestees has been charged with a crime.

Meanwhile, a Baylor football player violently raped another student athlete and he wasn't even arrested until after he was convicted in August.
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In reply to Guitarsoup • 3:13p, 10/15/15
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When can I get a cheap bike at auction?
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In reply to Gator2_01 • 3:21p, 10/15/15
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When can I get a cheap bike at auction?
All the vehicle forfeiture proceedings started in June. 17 motorcycles, eight pickup trucks and two SUVs. Not sure if they auctioned them off or not.
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3:37p, 10/15/15
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I cannot wait to see the amount of lawsuits that come out of this cluster fook. Its almost like they are so far into it now that they can't turn around, even though they know what they are doing is wrong. Illegal as hell.
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1:24p, 10/29/15
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Surveillance video shows Waco biker shooting

Link Fixed.
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1:42p, 10/29/15
AG
Try this one:

Gunfight footage . . .
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1:45p, 10/29/15
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^ That's what I was trying to link. ^
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1:51p, 10/29/15
Quite a few innocent folks in that video.
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In reply to oneeyedag • 2:15p, 10/29/15
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Quite a few innocent folks in that video.
I only saw evil gang members.
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2:51p, 10/29/15
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Twin Peaks has some high quality surveillance cameras.
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In reply to Goose • 3:01p, 10/29/15
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Twin Peaks has some high quality surveillance cameras.
Wouldn't you if you owned a Breastaurant?
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