TCTTS said:

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Speaking of, when was it that Star Wars so blatantly started blatantly winking at mid-20th-century cultural touchstones? Because I can't remember that being a thing in the OT, unless there's an instance or two I'm not immediately thinking of. I understand that some of the best sci-fi/fantasy is a commentary on our own world, and that much of the OT is inspired by pulp movie serials, Japanese cinema, westerns, etc. But it was always super subtle in its homages, and was never like, "Look, see, we're doing the thing! Isn't this so clever?!"

It just feels like, maybe starting with Dex's Diner in AOTC, Star Wars increasingly felt the need to incorporate direct analogs to 1950s/'60s American culture in ways that become more and more blatant, to the point of parody, culminating in what we got this week with the Espa Vespas, something that has never felt so out of place in this franchise. I think it's the combination of that gang and the other, leather-clad "biker gang" of Nikto miners or whatever at Tosche Station (who I guess killed all the Tusken Raiders?) that has me just constantly rolling my eyes.

So much of Star Wars lately - this show in, particular - just feels like old men using increasingly outdated references (Westerns! Diners! Biker gangs! Teen greasers!) in super obvious ways, to tell these stories, and it's all starting to feel so incredibly old. Star Wars can obviously look/feel so cool at times, but when they keep going back to the mid-20th-century well, and simultaneously lean into the '70s aesthetic, like with that sh*tty speeder the mayor's right-hand-man was driving, and the "phone booth" hologram thing (how are there not the equivalent of cell phones in this world?), and sideburns and all that, I really start to wonder what the shelf life of this franchise is going forward. As our present-day world sees so many technological advances, how much longer can Star Wars remain beholden to an aesthetic born in the '70s, constantly making references to things from even earlier than that?

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TCTTS said:

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Speaking of, when was it that Star Wars so blatantly started blatantly winking at mid-20th-century cultural touchstones? Because I can't remember that being a thing in the OT, unless there's an instance or two I'm not immediately thinking of. I understand that some of the best sci-fi/fantasy is a commentary on our own world, and that much of the OT is inspired by pulp movie serials, Japanese cinema, westerns, etc. But it was always super subtle in its homages, and was never like, "Look, see, we're doing the thing! Isn't this so clever?!"

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wangus12 said:

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Its just so incredibly out of place in not only Tatooine, but Star Wars in general.

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Something like those on Coruscant wouldn't bother me but hated them on tattooine

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Hungry Ojos said:

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Did anyone else think the sand monster that Fett be-headed was SUPER out of place and not Star-Wars-ey at all?

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Hungry Ojos said:

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Did anyone else think the sand monster that Fett be-headed was SUPER out of place and not Star-Wars-ey at all?

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TCTTS said:

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Hungry Ojos said:

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Did anyone else think the sand monster that Fett be-headed was SUPER out of place and not Star-Wars-ey at all?

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I definitely did. It looked like something out of one of those stop motion Jason and the Argonaut movies from the '60s or something. Not very Star Wars at all.

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SWC Ag said:

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Holy **** what a turd of an episode. This show absolutely sucks so far.


See y'all next week.

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dave94 said:

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I understand everyone's beefs with this, but I'm still just enjoying the hell out of it. Obviously my Star Wars goggles, but I'm loving seeing Tatooine from the street level that was shown in Mando, but now day to day.

Sure, it's not upper quality writing, but I'm still all in.

And I'm also in love with Ming-na Wen always.

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