Sex Panther said:

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"HULK KARATE!"

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Living Legend said:

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dave94 said:

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aTmAg said:

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I've seen IronMan. I liked that one.


I have slowly realized one common theme in movies that I tend to like less, and that is the dependence on karate. And not merely having karate, but having it be the primary determination on who "wins" or "loses". It is lazy writing to have a situation where all the antagonist needs to do is grit his teeth harder, and "want it more". So for example, Rocky was good, not because of the final fight scene, but because of his situation, how he got there, relationship with Adrian, etc. The subsequent Rocky movies were jokes (excluding Creed), because they were little more than training montages and "wanting it more".

Looking back, all of the shows I really love have no karate at all (Breaking Bad, The Wire, The Hunt For Red October, A Few Good Men, etc.). The movies that I do like that have karate, either don't take themselves too seriously (True Lies), or make less important to the story (The Dark Knight, Iron Man). I think one reason the Star Wars Prequels suck compared to the originals is how much victory or defeat depended on physical fighting skills. Even though The Return of the Jedi had some of it, it was not the central theme or cause of "victory".


I realize that superhero movies are not going to be able to avoid that very much. I guess that is why they are at a fundamental disadvantage in my view. They have to really go out of their way to make the story good and smart to overcome that (As TDK did).

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I'm sorry, not trying to be a jerk, but the idea that karate is the reason you don't like a lot of movies is kind of funny.

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I'm assuming that the whole "karate" thing is a bit/troll.

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M.C. Swag said:

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hurleyag said:

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Something I've been thinking about lately is how I would feel if the dusting actually happened. I'm sure lots of regular civilians in the MCU are now opening up Revelations and trying to make comparisons. There has been no indication of this type of power by any super hero or super villain, and outside of our heros and those around Wakanda, no one on earth even knows about Thanos or infinity stones.

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The very notion of 'revelations' as it is described in the bible would be undercut by the presence of any alien life to begin with (see Avengers 1 with the Chitari). Things get even more crazy when you consider the implications of Asgard and Thor.

In a real world scenario where superheros and super villains exist, I think the dusting (coinciding with the disappearance of the most renowned Billionaire/Philanthropist/Player/Hero, Tony Stark) would immediately be connected to a super being.

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hurleyag said:

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jtstanley4621 said:

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M.C. Swag said:

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hurleyag said:

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Something I've been thinking about lately is how I would feel if the dusting actually happened. I'm sure lots of regular civilians in the MCU are now opening up Revelations and trying to make comparisons. There has been no indication of this type of power by any super hero or super villain, and outside of our heros and those around Wakanda, no one on earth even knows about Thanos or infinity stones.

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The very notion of 'revelations' as it is described in the bible would be undercut by the presence of any alien life to begin with (see Avengers 1 with the Chitari). Things get even more crazy when you consider the implications of Asgard and Thor.

In a real world scenario where superheros and super villains exist, I think the dusting (coinciding with the disappearance of the most renowned Billionaire/Philanthropist/Player/Hero, Tony Stark) would immediately be connected to a super being.

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Yeah the MCU would pretty much shatter most concepts of religion, at least christianity. But there'd be some Old Norse believers who would be like "SEE! I TOLD YOU!"

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Except Star Lord clearly contradicts that when he says "What am I supposed to say, Jesus?"

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hurleyag said:

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jtstanley4621 said:

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M.C. Swag said:

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hurleyag said:

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Something I've been thinking about lately is how I would feel if the dusting actually happened. I'm sure lots of regular civilians in the MCU are now opening up Revelations and trying to make comparisons. There has been no indication of this type of power by any super hero or super villain, and outside of our heros and those around Wakanda, no one on earth even knows about Thanos or infinity stones.

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The very notion of 'revelations' as it is described in the bible would be undercut by the presence of any alien life to begin with (see Avengers 1 with the Chitari). Things get even more crazy when you consider the implications of Asgard and Thor.

In a real world scenario where superheros and super villains exist, I think the dusting (coinciding with the disappearance of the most renowned Billionaire/Philanthropist/Player/Hero, Tony Stark) would immediately be connected to a super being.

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Yeah the MCU would pretty much shatter most concepts of religion, at least christianity. But there'd be some Old Norse believers who would be like "SEE! I TOLD YOU!"

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Except Star Lord clearly contradicts that when he says "What am I supposed to say, Jesus?"

Edit: and Cap in Avengers1 when he says "I only know 1 God."

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M.C. Swag said:

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hurleyag said:

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jtstanley4621 said:

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M.C. Swag said:

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hurleyag said:

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Something I've been thinking about lately is how I would feel if the dusting actually happened. I'm sure lots of regular civilians in the MCU are now opening up Revelations and trying to make comparisons. There has been no indication of this type of power by any super hero or super villain, and outside of our heros and those around Wakanda, no one on earth even knows about Thanos or infinity stones.

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The very notion of 'revelations' as it is described in the bible would be undercut by the presence of any alien life to begin with (see Avengers 1 with the Chitari). Things get even more crazy when you consider the implications of Asgard and Thor.

In a real world scenario where superheros and super villains exist, I think the dusting (coinciding with the disappearance of the most renowned Billionaire/Philanthropist/Player/Hero, Tony Stark) would immediately be connected to a super being.

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Yeah the MCU would pretty much shatter most concepts of religion, at least christianity. But there'd be some Old Norse believers who would be like "SEE! I TOLD YOU!"

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Except Star Lord clearly contradicts that when he says "What am I supposed to say, Jesus?"

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This is a straying into dumbland, but Starlord is making a joke at the expense of religion. lol You understand that, right?

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M.C. Swag said:

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sure

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hurleyag said:

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jtstanley4621 said:

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M.C. Swag said:

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hurleyag said:

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Something I've been thinking about lately is how I would feel if the dusting actually happened. I'm sure lots of regular civilians in the MCU are now opening up Revelations and trying to make comparisons. There has been no indication of this type of power by any super hero or super villain, and outside of our heros and those around Wakanda, no one on earth even knows about Thanos or infinity stones.

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The very notion of 'revelations' as it is described in the bible would be undercut by the presence of any alien life to begin with (see Avengers 1 with the Chitari). Things get even more crazy when you consider the implications of Asgard and Thor.

In a real world scenario where superheros and super villains exist, I think the dusting (coinciding with the disappearance of the most renowned Billionaire/Philanthropist/Player/Hero, Tony Stark) would immediately be connected to a super being.

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Yeah the MCU would pretty much shatter most concepts of religion, at least christianity. But there'd be some Old Norse believers who would be like "SEE! I TOLD YOU!"

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Except Star Lord clearly contradicts that when he says "What am I supposed to say, Jesus?"

Edit: and Cap in Avengers1 when he says "I only know 1 God."

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Dmacy said:

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Honestly people around made it their job to spoil the movie for me and told every spoiler as possible. But still watched the movie and I was speechless. Even after the spoilers enjoyed the movie to the extreme

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FTACO97 said:

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texasaggie04 said:

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DB Coach said:

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Sorry, I should have explained more what I was thinking.

Fury is in the car and they get a report that a giant ship has entered the atmosphere over Wakanda, and that it's bigger than the last one. A few seconds later people start disappearing. There wasn't near enough time for the battle and all that to actually occur.

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I think they're talking about when Thanos comes in with the gauntlet at the end. They specifically mention it has the same readings as New York, which would be when the Tesseract (space stone) was used to open the portal. No ships entered through the atmosphere in that movie.
So the only time delay would be the amount of time it took for Thanos to walk to vision, take the mind stone, and then get hit in the chest with a giant lightning axe.

Edit: unless they mean the readings in new York at the beginning of this movie. I took it to mean the first battle of new York, in avengers 1. I'd have to watch it again to see their exact words.

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Saw it again last night in IMAX 3D, which I have to say is AMAZING!

Anyways, to the topic....Hill was definitely referring to when Thanos' forces arrived in Wakanda. She said something along the lines of "multiple bogeys detected above Wakanda". Fury asks "like in New York?" Hill responds, "No, much bigger". Then seconds later the car crashes in front of them. So there's definitely some time lost there.

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FTACO97 said:

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redline248 said:

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FTACO97 said:

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texasaggie04 said:

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DB Coach said:

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Sorry, I should have explained more what I was thinking.

Fury is in the car and they get a report that a giant ship has entered the atmosphere over Wakanda, and that it's bigger than the last one. A few seconds later people start disappearing. There wasn't near enough time for the battle and all that to actually occur.

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I think they're talking about when Thanos comes in with the gauntlet at the end. They specifically mention it has the same readings as New York, which would be when the Tesseract (space stone) was used to open the portal. No ships entered through the atmosphere in that movie.
So the only time delay would be the amount of time it took for Thanos to walk to vision, take the mind stone, and then get hit in the chest with a giant lightning axe.

Edit: unless they mean the readings in new York at the beginning of this movie. I took it to mean the first battle of new York, in avengers 1. I'd have to watch it again to see their exact words.

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Saw it again last night in IMAX 3D, which I have to say is AMAZING!

Anyways, to the topic....Hill was definitely referring to when Thanos' forces arrived in Wakanda. She said something along the lines of "multiple bogeys detected above Wakanda". Fury asks "like in New York?" Hill responds, "No, much bigger". Then seconds later the car crashes in front of them. So there's definitely some time lost there.

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I mean, Wakanda is half way around the world, and it's day time in both scenes...so....

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True, but they portray it like Hill just saw it on a satellite feed or something. Maybe she's just reading the morning news :-)

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