Thanks for posting that. I enjoyed listening to it.vwbug said:
Latest jedi council. I wonder if they liked this movie? If it made them "think" enough so we can all turn star wars into an intellectual phd conversation.
My guess - they say we need to see it twice - because we all know... you have to see a movie twice before you realize you really love it!
forbes article.wesag said:
What's the link here?
This one will not, at least anywhere near opening week.Bruce Almighty said:
Star Wars fans will always go see the next Star Wars movie.
bobinator said:One thing I'm absolutely certain of is that they wanted to leave open that Kylo could conceivably end up as a good guy again which is why I think they scrapped the idea of Kylo and Luke actually having a showdown. If he would have actually killed him, then there's no way he could conceivably become a good guy again, but he didn't.IrishAg said:
Judging by the back and forth we're all having in this, I'm pretty sure the larger issue with this movie is that it appears the director/writers came up with moments they wanted: Luke fading away with the sunset, Admiral Prissy Pants hyperspace torpedo (which why couldn't they do that with one of the other ships earlier?), the look into all rich people are evil on canto bight, etc... and then threw together the script to make those scenes/moments work. This would explain why almost everyone seems to be having trouble making sense and/or justifying any of the character motivations in this movie.
As I told someone who hasn't seen it when they asked for an honest opinion, I was disappointed, there were moments I loved, but the movie just didn't feel like Star Wars. And after they saw it, they completely agreed with me. Great moments, but nothing seems to fit right.
I also think this was a decision that was made very late in the process. I don't know that for sure, but that's my wild speculation.
97 said:
So what's the back story on Snoke? Is there one? Aside from John Williams reusing the Emperor's theme in the music for Snoke, where is he from and how did he gain so much power?
Just wait for the upcoming book and comic series to get the real story.....97 said:
So what's the back story on Snoke? Is there one? Aside from John Williams reusing the Emperor's theme in the music for Snoke, where is he from and how did he gain so much power?
SeattleAgJr said:Just wait for the upcoming book and comic series to get the real story.....97 said:
So what's the back story on Snoke? Is there one? Aside from John Williams reusing the Emperor's theme in the music for Snoke, where is he from and how did he gain so much power?
- Disney marketing
cbr said:
Let's see, you have the keys to the most iconic movie franchise in history, and three of the most iconic Hollywood heroes ever --- Luke the magic farmboy, son of the devil, Solo the galaxy's most beloved scoundrel, and Princess Leia, no further introduction needed.
Together they get the death star plans to the ancient hero of old, who gets them to the rebellion, and they blow up the death star (two of them); they turn the devil himself into a good guy, and save the galaxy from the evil galactic empire that was generations, and 3 bad prequels, in the making.
Heroes of the galaxy.
Peace, love and prosperity.
Yay. good start. Ewoks dancing (ok that part sucked).
Now let's see, here is what you come up with for the next installment:
* solo has a kid with leia, they send him to jedi boarding school. Solo ditches leia and goes off drinking with Chuy (I know, it's Chewie, but this is a multi cultural world now) for 20 years. They put on such a binge they can't even find the falcon, which wound up in some junk heap, though apparently anyone else can the minute it fires up.
* leia apparently does.... well, not much, considering her kid is in jedi boarding school, hubby is out honkytonking, and the galaxy goes to **** immediately again under her watch.
* she then apparently has to start a new rebellion, only one that sucks this time and no one cares about, including luke and han. apparently the best second in command she can find is some smarmy purple-haired captain bligh with a strong case ***** envy.
* meanwhile luke ****s up jedi school and makes another darth vader out of his nephew, then decides that he wants to go hide away and die. why? because he doesnt want to create another vader. never mind trying to create another good jedi, to make up for the new vader he just sicked on the galaxy. He's fine with that.
(but he left a map - i guess he's really crying for help? This is the sensitive century we're in after all).
* luke then spends 20 years sucking tit off of jabba's fat niece and doing who knows what with those frog maids on some ugly island by himself.
* r2D2 is just an old pile of junk in the corner now.
* after 60+ years, leia finally finds her jedi powers to become Mary Poppinssickle in space, and then promptly settles in for a nothing burger the rest of the movie. Carrie Fisher's last act as a true american icon is to say 'dont look at me, follow that pilot I just slapped and demoted, and who I just shot with a stun gun during a mutiny he was staging against my two-faced purple haired second in command, who was leading us all to certain death, all for a cause no one gives a **** about.'
* despite everything hanging in the balance, luke and yoda decide to hang out at the campfire: '**** it, let's roast marshmellows on all that jedi crap that we spent a thousand years putting together and let some random teenager go fight the new evil empire we pretty much created, all by herself "
* Luke then, presumably hung over, decides to force himself to death doing nothing to nobody, which gave the last 15 rebels no one cares about an extra three minutes to crawl in a cave and get ready to be slaughtered.
luckily that teenage girl they wouldn't train or help or even give some better shoes figured out how to find and rescue them by lifting rocks on her own, after luke already checked out.
throw in an annoying multi - time turncoat idiot, a couple of 'doll - selling nothings', a new emperor with no name (but a cool new gold smoking jacket - maybe Snokes is actually Hugh Heffner?), yet another death star, yet another walker attack in the snow, and more crappy CGI on an hour long failed sideshow, and wow, is this the best you can do?
I honestly think just about any fan could have come up with a better story line. Killing off Han, Luke, and losing Carrie Fisher like that is really really ****ty.
you're full of ****, and you are going to see the next movie opening day. It's honestly really weird how passionately you are hating this movie.SeattleAgJr said:This one will not, at least anywhere near opening week.Bruce Almighty said:
Star Wars fans will always go see the next Star Wars movie.
The **** show around Solo will have me wait it out a week or two to see if it is any good.
I am already of the opinion it was not a good idea to do this movie, so...
I liked TFA. Yes, it was completely ripped from the original trilogy, but the characters felt real, mostly made sense, and it was fun.
TLJ did not and was not.
Yes, I will see the final film, but again, it will be after a significant delay.
The only person full of **** here is you who presumes to know what I will or will not do.PatAg said:
you're full of ****, and you are going to see the next movie opening day. It's honestly really weird how passionately you are hating this movie.
I won't if there's as much divided opinion about Solo or Ep IX after it opens. I can live without new Star Wars movies. James Bond, on the other hand...Bruce Almighty said:
Star Wars fans will always go see the next Star Wars movie.
SeattleAgJr said:The only person full of **** here is you who presumes to know what I will or will not do.PatAg said:
you're full of ****, and you are going to see the next movie opening day. It's honestly really weird how passionately you are hating this movie.
TLJ sucked. plain and simple. I have stated that numerous times here.