That's a good point. The prequels at least told the Skywalker story. TLJ told us none of it mattered anyway.
That is not true. It told us that you don't have to be a Skywalker to matter going forward. That is not the same as saying "the Skywalkers don't matter and the old movies don't matter"Bayside Tiger Ag said:
That's a good point. The prequels at least told the Skywalker story. TLJ told us none of it mattered anyway
Other than your years being wrong (the New Republic was around longer than the Empire), if that is your stance, you should have never wanted to watch the new movies in the first place. What did you think, that they would bring back the original stars but that there wouldn't be any conflict in the galaxy? Would make for some pretty boring movies.cbr said:
Uhhh The entire new storyline says skywalkers never did **** and were totally irrelevant. Emperor starts empire. Evil empire rules galaxy for decades. Sky walker kills emperor and frees galaxy for approximately 5 years and now new empire, same as the first, ever since. Rebellion is dead and so are all the skywalkers, having totally sucked at everything. Other than tossing light sabers off of cliffs and Mary poppins acts.
That is not a good story. If you summarized the actual storyline you'd have thought it was a cynical snl skit.
Jason Ag said:
Its like they morphed Marvel, X-Men, and new SrarTrek in to a Stars Wars movie, and tried to kill off the old story as quick as possible.
Which actor is this?Quote:
Ridiculous and nonsensical waste of the best actor to ever appear in the franchise.
Cinco Ranch Aggie said:Which actor is this?Quote:
Ridiculous and nonsensical waste of the best actor to ever appear in the franchise.
I think the poster is specifically talking about The Last Jedi ... so no to Harrison Ford, Alec Guiness, Ewan MacGregor ... who in The Last Jedi would be considered the best actor to appear in the series? Andy Serkis for his ability to "portray" various non-human characters across a wide range of movies?wesag said:Cinco Ranch Aggie said:Which actor is this?Quote:
Ridiculous and nonsensical waste of the best actor to ever appear in the franchise.
Obi wan?
I've been out to Skellig Michael several times. You want remote, rough islands. That is one of the best. Its pretty damn hard to get out to with the weather and seas always sucking there. The houses that they showed in the movie are pretty darn similar to to whats already there, left by monks.Ulrich said:VanZandt92 said:
You know that island that Luke was on? It was Ireland and looked like Ireland. There was really nothing other worldly about it. George Lucas would have done better, sorry. Nice BBC look there Rian. Thought Luke and Rey might head down to the pub for a pint of plain.
I love that they used Skellig Michael for Luke's hideaway, it's absolutely perfect.
Also, Abrams picked it, not Johnson.
I understand where you're coming from and I do think the prequels get too harsh of a treatment.wesag said:
It is not heads above the prequels except in acting. I watched portions of v Attack of the Clones last night. There are some good scenes in there. There isn't a sequence from The Last Jedi that I would put up there as memorable or impactful in the long term. Snoke fight? Forgone conclusion. Rey and Kylo? Not half bad but that is because the scenes are better than the rest of the movie in a relative sense.
redline248 said:
I have so many thoughts still about this movie, but I just don't care to type them all out. What does that say about how good or bad it was?
Gigem314 said:I understand where you're coming from and I do think the prequels get too harsh of a treatment.wesag said:
It is not heads above the prequels except in acting. I watched portions of v Attack of the Clones last night. There are some good scenes in there. There isn't a sequence from The Last Jedi that I would put up there as memorable or impactful in the long term. Snoke fight? Forgone conclusion. Rey and Kylo? Not half bad but that is because the scenes are better than the rest of the movie in a relative sense.
That being said, I would still put TLJ pretty far ahead of the prequels because of the cinematography. The prequels have a Halo or video game feel to them because of the heavy CGI. The new trilogy feels so much more real.
And I think that's one of the problems with this movie. Rian Johnson was trying to make Star Wars more cerebral than it needs to be. Hamill nailed it in one of those interviews. There needs to be a simple beginning, middle, and end without interjecting subtle SJW crap, completely dismissing out of hand formerly major cliff-hangers, but then promoting nonsensical other elements of the story.02skiag said:
Reading comments from Pablo's twitter posts, I see a pattern in those that enjoyed the movie. The praise is all about how the movie made you think and challenged you. They really appreciated that there is an overall theme. I think if I was college age again, I may agree with that view. At that age I was always searching for deeper philosophical views.
What I don't get though is that to me there really was no thinking required. Those themes and messages were all on the nose with this movie. It seems like those that like the movie think highly of themselves for "getting it" and think others just didn't understand. That couldn't be further from the truth though.
Lastly, I personally went into the movie to be primarily entertained by Star Wars. I didn't come for some message (which required zero thought to get). If a movie is firstly entertaining THEN an accompanying message/theme can turn it into a great movie. An example for me is GOT2. To me it was entertaining and had a nice theme as well.
If referring to TLJ...assume he's talking about Benicio Del Toro?Cinco Ranch Aggie said:Which actor is this?Quote:
Ridiculous and nonsensical waste of the best actor to ever appear in the franchise.
02skiag said:
Reading comments from Pablo's twitter posts, I see a pattern in those that enjoyed the movie. The praise is all about how the movie made you think and challenged you. They really appreciated that there is an overall theme. I think if I was college age again, I may agree with that view. At that age I was always searching for deeper philosophical views.
What I don't get though is that to me there really was no thinking required. Those themes and messages were all on the nose with this movie. It seems like those that like the movie think highly of themselves for "getting it" and think others just didn't understand. That couldn't be further from the truth though.
Lastly, I personally went into the movie to be primarily entertained by Star Wars. I didn't come for some message (which required zero thought to get). If a movie is firstly entertaining THEN an accompanying message/theme can turn it into a great movie. An example for me is GOT2. To me it was entertaining and had a nice theme as well.
Flashdiaz said:
I think when people say you should see it twice is because the direction it goes is such a drastic change than what we expected.
Most expected Jedi Master Luke to train Rey and to save the resistance with his lightsaber and other force powers to destroy the enemy. This film doesn't go in the direction most thought. Once you get over your personal expectations of how you thought it would go and have accepted it, you can enjoy it more. And you can take a bathroom break during the Canto Scene