***** Official 2017 Astros Off Season Thread *****

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iBrad
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9:20a, 1/29/17
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The only way this signing makes sense is if Gattis is then moved for a starting pitcher. But would Weiters even sign to be the backup, possibly getting some DH at bats, too?

Gattis is the cheaper option and in line for a better offensive year than Weiters. And I wouldn't rate his catching skills very far behind Weiters.

We'll see what happens, but this doesn't sound credible to me.
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2:47p, 1/29/17
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https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/more-juicy-details-have-been-revealed-in-the-st-louis-cardinals-hacking-scandal-184034743.html
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[url=https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/more-juicy-details-have-been-revealed-in-the-st-louis-cardinals-hacking-scandal-184034743.html][/url]
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Correa intruded into the Astros' "Ground Control" database 48 times and accessed the accounts of five Astros employees. For 2 1/2 years, beginning in January 2012, Correa had unfettered access to the e-mail account of Sig Mejdal, the Astros' director of decision sciences and a former Cardinals employee. Correa worked in St. Louis as an analyst under Mejdal, who came to Houston after the 2011 season with Astros general manager Jeff Luhnow, also a former Cardinals executive.
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"(Correa) knew what projects the Astros' analytics department was researching, what concepts were promising and what ideas to avoid," said one of the documents, signed by Michael Chu, the assistant U.S. attorney who prosecuted the case against Correa. "He had access to everything that Sig Mejdal read and wrote."
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Correa also attempted to gain access to the accounts of Bo Porter, the Astros' manager in 2013-14, and pitching coach Brent Strom, and he used passwords belonging to Luhnow, Astros analyst Colin Wyers, and three Astros minor league players to gain access to the Astros system, the documents show.
[url=https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/more-juicy-details-have-been-revealed-in-the-st-louis-cardinals-hacking-scandal-184034743.html][/url]
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3:51p, 1/29/17
yeah, you just 'guessed' one former Cardinals employee's password. **** you dude.
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4:22p, 1/29/17
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Give us Alex Reyes and we can call it even.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 5:11p, 1/29/17
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aggie1906 said:

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We must be very confident we can move Gattis if we're still kicking the tires on Wieters.
I don't know where this came from but it's a terrible idea if it's real. But to be fair, the article doesn't say the Astros are still interested - hell, this could have been crap from before the McCann deal - it just says they're a possible landing spot (could just be the dude throwing **** against the wall.
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1:11p, 1/30/17
Man, this may have not ended up too poorly for the astros. I really didn't expect to get anything noteworthy out of this

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1:18p, 1/30/17
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Like I said in the other thread I honestly didn't expect to see anything come back to us.

I thought they may have to just forfeit a low pick or two, but now that I see we're GETTING a 56 and a 75 PLUS cash I'm ecstatic.

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In reply to NotGibbs • 1:22p, 1/30/17
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NotGibbs said:
Man, this may have not ended up too poorly for the astros. I really didn't expect to get anything noteworthy out of this

This is awesome. But, the update I got on my phone says $20 million.

*UPDATE: Nevermind - they fixed it. It is $2 million.
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1:29p, 1/30/17
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1:31p, 1/30/17
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#Lunhowed

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1:33p, 1/30/17
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yes! awesome!

will take the 2 extra picks
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1:34p, 1/30/17
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so the Astros will have 4 or 5 picks among the top 100 in the 2017 draft?
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1:37p, 1/30/17
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Love it
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1:37p, 1/30/17
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1:39p, 1/30/17
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Damn!
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1:53p, 1/30/17
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Do they just lose draft picks or do we gain the ones they're having to forfeit?
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 1:55p, 1/30/17
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That's what I'd like clarification on. What I'm seeing in articles is that the two draft picks and $2M go to the Astros. That's going to result in quite a large draft pool this year.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 1:56p, 1/30/17
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aggie1906 said:
Do they just lose draft picks or do we gain the ones they're having to forfeit?
They award them to us. I feel good about it, but also surprised there isn't a harsher financial penalty paid to someone besides the Astros - given the precedent it could set.
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1:57p, 1/30/17
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Only thing I haven't seen is if the draft pool money we can spend goes up too?
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In reply to Clavell • 1:59p, 1/30/17
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Clavell said:
Only thing I haven't seen is if the draft pool money we can spend goes up too?
It has to or these become a lot less meaningful.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 2:01p, 1/30/17
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aggie1906 said:
Do they just lose draft picks or do we gain the ones they're having to forfeit?

I'm gonna wait on getting excited about the picks until it's been clarified we get them. Sounds a little fishy.

Why couldn't they award us some first rounders.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 2:05p, 1/30/17
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aggie1906 said:
Clavell said:
Only thing I haven't seen is if the draft pool money we can spend goes up too?
It has to or these become a lot less meaningful.

Our pool will go from $6,755,100 to $8,608,300.. as stated in the article.
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In reply to shano0603 • 2:08p, 1/30/17
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shano0603 said:
aggie1906 said:
Do they just lose draft picks or do we gain the ones they're having to forfeit?

I'm gonna wait on getting excited about the picks until it's been clarified we get them. Sounds a little fishy.

Why couldn't they award us some first rounders.
Just read an article that said these are St. Louis's top two picks. They don't have a first round pick.
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In reply to Jackal99 • 2:10p, 1/30/17
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shano0603 said:
aggie1906 said:
Do they just lose draft picks or do we gain the ones they're having to forfeit?

I'm gonna wait on getting excited about the picks until it's been clarified we get them. Sounds a little fishy.

Why couldn't they award us some first rounders.
Just read an article that said these are St. Louis's top two picks. They don't have a first round pick.
Exactly. They traded their 1st round pick for Dexter Fowler. Maybe because they figured they would lose it.
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2:31p, 1/30/17
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They didn't trade it for fowler. They gave it up because they signed fowler.

Not having a pick in the first 3 rounds is pretty brutal.
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In reply to shano0603 • 2:35p, 1/30/17
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Yep. That's liable to set the Cardinals back like this draft did for a certain team.
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In reply to irish pete ag06 • 2:46p, 1/30/17
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irish pete ag06 said:
Yep. That's liable to set the Cardinals back like this draft did for a certain team.
Ouch.
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2:53p, 1/30/17
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IMO this should mean that we are ready to deal some damn prospects.
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In reply to irish pete ag06 • 2:54p, 1/30/17
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irish pete ag06 said:
Yep. That's liable to set the Cardinals back like this draft did for a certain team.

I don't recognize a single Mae on that list
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In reply to Buck Compton • 3:01p, 1/30/17
Buck Compton said:
aggie1906 said:
Do they just lose draft picks or do we gain the ones they're having to forfeit?
They award them to us. I feel good about it, but also surprised there isn't a harsher financial penalty paid to someone besides the Astros - given the precedent it could set.


I'm not 100% sure, but I believe the $2,000,000 is the max that could be incurred from this
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3:08p, 1/30/17
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so checking MLB's website...

the Astros have picks: #15, #53, #56, #75, and #91 among the top 100.

the Cardinals not having a 1st round pick is a little bit of a downer
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In reply to shano0603 • 3:12p, 1/30/17
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shano0603 said:
irish pete ag06 said:
Yep. That's liable to set the Cardinals back like this draft did for a certain team.

I don't recognize a single Mae on that list
hell, we didn't sign a player until round 5... no wonder you don't recognize anyone. We signed Woody Williams and Carlos Lee trying to prolong the glory years. The Rangers' first round and Padres' second round picks didn't work out in our slot, but who knows who we would have picked. There were lots of quality players on the board. Hell Donaldson was still on the board for both of them.

Here's a look at the rest of the top of that draft: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Major_League_Baseball_draft
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In reply to NotGibbs • 3:17p, 1/30/17
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NotGibbs said:
Buck Compton said:
aggie1906 said:
Do they just lose draft picks or do we gain the ones they're having to forfeit?
They award them to us. I feel good about it, but also surprised there isn't a harsher financial penalty paid to someone besides the Astros - given the precedent it could set.


I'm not 100% sure, but I believe the $2,000,000 is the max that could be incurred from this
Correct
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In reply to Nuke LaLoosh • 3:19p, 1/30/17
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Nuke LaLoosh said:
IMO this should mean that we are ready to deal some damn prospects.
Great point. Why not go get that starter we were on the fence about now if we think we can refill out prospects with a big draft day. It's not like we need a ton of young talent now at the big league level with so many youngins already playing every day.
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3:30p, 1/30/17
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I feel like they would have known they were getting two picks for awhile now. Maybe they were waiting to make it official or maybe they're just holding off until the trade deadline.
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