people keep saying this...but I really doubt it. Mostly for defensive reasons.AustinCountyAg said:
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Well back when he was coming here they claimed he was too old and expensive and they didn't want him.
We'll see if the tune changes should this progress.
We'll see if the tune changes should this progress.
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The rangers fans on their thread were laughing at the possibility of us giving EE a giant 5 year deal. Now they'll come out and say what a great deal and great signing.
EE situation sounds like his agent mismanaged and blew it. His agent was thinking he would get him into a bidding war but exact opposite has happened.
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EE situation sounds like his agent mismanaged and blew it. His agent was thinking he would get him into a bidding war but exact opposite has happened.
He's not Mike Trout.
Seems as if the Jays might have moved on from him. They already have Smoak. Signed Morales and now Steve Pearce.
So how far does he come back down before teams hop back in? 4 years at 20 per? 5@20? Even lower?shano0603 said:rosco511 said:
EE situation sounds like his agent mismanaged and blew it. His agent was thinking he would get him into a bidding war but exact opposite has happened.
He's not Mike Trout.
Seems as if the Jays might have moved on from him. They already have Smoak. Signed Morales and now Steve Pearce.
If I were him, Id fire my agent right before I signed the contract
This where I would consider jumping in and making a 3/70-75ish offer and make it a take it or leave it offer that expires at the end of the week.
If declined, no big deal, you were planning to move on anyways. If the market evaporates and they get cold feet, you might land another big difference maker on a contract that is shorter and therefore much less risky. At that point, you can figure out what to do with the roster (i.e. move Yuli to LF), but it is a steal to add a 40/100 type of bat to the middle of the lineup without a long-term liability.
If declined, no big deal, you were planning to move on anyways. If the market evaporates and they get cold feet, you might land another big difference maker on a contract that is shorter and therefore much less risky. At that point, you can figure out what to do with the roster (i.e. move Yuli to LF), but it is a steal to add a 40/100 type of bat to the middle of the lineup without a long-term liability.
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EE should've taken 4/80 from Toronto.
I think he's still worth more. If he signs for that or less and it isn;t to Houston I am going to be pissed. 4 years of EE at 20 M >>> 1 year of Beltran at 16 M.Basketball and Chain said:
EE should've taken 4/80 from Toronto.
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Looks like he's going to be extra competition for a lefty relief pitcher spot. He had an impressive minor league season for Balt last year but had a rough short stint with the big league club.
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aggie1906 said:I think he's still worth more. If he signs for that or less and it isn;t to Houston I am going to be pissed. 4 years of EE at 20 M >>> 1 year of Beltran at 16 M.Basketball and Chain said:
EE should've taken 4/80 from Toronto.
Where's he going to sign for more than that?
Boston wanted to pay less than 16/yr for their DH, and the Yankees, Astros and blue Jays have pretty much all moved on. Texas is saying they'll look internally for options.
I guess someone could give him a Cespedes type contract with an early opt out (heavy 1-2 years knowing he'll opt out unless injured or production falls off a cliff). But I think 4/80 is going to be his highest total contract value he gets. Maybe he'd listen on a 4/80 offer that pays 25/25/15/15 with an opt out after year 2.
Sounds like it may be Arlington. Maybe even Boston might get back in to the deal. Toronto hasn't inked Fowler yet have they?
Bostons payroll is what? 150 million?
At this point it doesn't sound like EE is going anywhere.
Sitting out 2017.Ag_07 said:
At this point it doesn't sound like EE is going anywhere.
Remember when we had Mark Melancon?
Yep, we got him and Jimmy Paredes from the Yankees in the Berkman trade. We then traded Melancon for Jed Lowrie and Kyle Weiland. We then traded Lowrie to Oakland for Chris Carter, Brad Peacock, and Max Stassi. Weiland got injured and never made it back.shano0603 said:
Remember when we had Mark Melancon?
So all-in-all, not much of a return for the Berkman trade.
Except that we do not make the playoffs in 2015 without Carter's great September (even though I hate the guy and his performance up to that point was one of the reasons we were in a close race).iBrad said:Yep, we got him and Jimmy Paredes from the Yankees in the Berkman trade. We then traded Melancon for Jed Lowrie and Kyle Weiland. We then traded Lowrie to Oakland for Chris Carter, Brad Peacock, and Max Stassi. Weiland got injured and never made it back.shano0603 said:
Remember when we had Mark Melancon?
So all-in-all, not much of a return for the Berkman trade.
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Joel Sherman of the New York Post tweeted this morning that rival execs get the sense that the Nationals and Astros are the most aggressive teams on the Sale market, and the Braves are in the picture as well. As is the case with the Nats and Turner, the Astros (Alex Bregman) and Braves (Dansby Swanson) each have a young core player whom they effectively deem to be untouchable in trade talks, even for someone of Sale's caliber.
Now looks like the Rangers are out
So HOU, TEX, NYY, TOR, and BOS are all out (as of now) on EE.
Who the hell is gonna sign this guy? His agent seriously fcked this up.
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It is "unlikely" that the Rangers will sign a "big ticket" free agent, GM Jon Daniels told reporters (including Evan Grant of the Dallas Morning News). Texas has been linked to the likes of Edwin Encarnacion, Ian Desmond, Mark Trumbo and other notable free agent names this winter, and the team has notable question marks at first base, center field and DH. If free agency isn't as likely an option for the Rangers, they could continue to pursue trades.
So HOU, TEX, NYY, TOR, and BOS are all out (as of now) on EE.
Who the hell is gonna sign this guy? His agent seriously fcked this up.
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Now looks like the Rangers are outQuote:
It is "unlikely" that the Rangers will sign a "big ticket" free agent, GM Jon Daniels told reporters (including Evan Grant of the Dallas Morning News). Texas has been linked to the likes of Edwin Encarnacion, Ian Desmond, Mark Trumbo and other notable free agent names this winter, and the team has notable question marks at first base, center field and DH. If free agency isn't as likely an option for the Rangers, they could continue to pursue trades.
So HOU, TEX, NYY, TOR, and BOS are all out (as of now) on EE.
Who the hell is gonna sign this guy? His agent seriously fcked this up.
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Now looks like the Rangers are outQuote:
It is "unlikely" that the Rangers will sign a "big ticket" free agent, GM Jon Daniels told reporters (including Evan Grant of the Dallas Morning News). Texas has been linked to the likes of Edwin Encarnacion, Ian Desmond, Mark Trumbo and other notable free agent names this winter, and the team has notable question marks at first base, center field and DH. If free agency isn't as likely an option for the Rangers, they could continue to pursue trades.
So HOU, TEX, NYY, TOR, and BOS are all out (as of now) on EE.
Who the hell is gonna sign this guy? His agent seriously fcked this up.
He's gonna have to sign for less money or less years.
I'd give him the same money (25 per) fir shorter years.
Now you come at him with an opt out clause to entice him to sign.
Year 1 - 25
Year 2 - 25
Year 3 - 25
Opt out clause
Year 4 - 15
Year 5 - 10
Or something like that.
Year 1 - 25
Year 2 - 25
Year 3 - 25
Opt out clause
Year 4 - 15
Year 5 - 10
Or something like that.
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Sounds like Cleveland is making a play for EE and the Nats have the lead in the Sale chase
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Correra kind of dresses like a weirdo sometimes.
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If I were him, Id fire my agent right before I signed the contract
The fired agent usually still gets paid a portion of that commission either way.
I think it's the sideburns as much as the over-sized coat. They're hideous.aggie1906 said:
Correra kind of dresses like a weirdo sometimes.
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Now you come at him with an opt out clause to entice him to sign.
Year 1 -259
Year 2 - 25
Year 3 - 25
Opt out clause
Year 4 - 15
Year 5 - 10
Or something like that.
I'd tell him that his deeking around forced us to sign Beltran, thus costing us 16M so we're passing on the cost to him.