******Rockets Offseason Roster Moves******* [Staff Warning on page 72]

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Mr.Bond
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Is there anyway the Rockets could get Rondo?



Not much to offer and I'm not sure he fits really well within this current system
Guitarsoup
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Sure. Depends what the Celtics want. He doesn't have a big cap number and the trade will likely have to include one or both of Jones/Bev and the NOLA pick.
Houston Summit
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Is there anyway the Rockets could get Rondo?

Blackmail on Ainge would be where I would start
Ryan34
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I doubt Boston gets that much for him. They just paid Bradley and used two firsts on guards. Everyone knows he's gone come the offseason

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Sure. Depends what the Celtics want. He doesn't have a big cap number and the trade will likely have to include one or both of Jones/Bev and the NOLA pick.


That sounds intriguing. I think NOLA's pick would be the driving factor b/c if I remember correctly doesn't Ainge want high draft picks as his #1 priority for rebuilding?

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Mr.Bond
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I would send Jones and NOLAs pick in a heartbeat. Rather keep Beverly with rondos injury history
Guitarsoup
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Howard+Adrien is a pretty weak front line, if you give Jones+Pick.
Mr.Bond
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Our 4 position is weak/unproven period imo. At least you somewhat shore up the backcourt. Go find another warm body on the FA market to fill in the 4 I guess
Mr.Bond
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Fully expect Morey to take a stab at Boozer
Sean_Jones
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No effin way it would only take Bev + the NOLA pick to get Rondo. The deal would already be done if that is the case.
concac
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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11219276/nba-jerseys-now-feature-gold-tabs-collars-indicate-teams-won-titles

Rockets jersey gonna have an asterisk on the gold tabs.

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Ags #1
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So will spurs since they tanked for Duncan
PastyGangsta
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Fully expect Morey to take a stab at Boozer


Jesus that would be terrible
Houston Summit
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I wouldn't mind an experiment on Boozer. He only has one year left on his contract and he would add more depth at 4.

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Ryan34
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Howard+Adrien is a pretty weak front line, if you give Jones+Pick.

Motiejunas
Guitarsoup
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You aren't helping.
Mr.Bond
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Fully expect Morey to take a stab at Boozer


Jesus that would be terrible



Umm how
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Bonfired
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tl; dr
Texaggie7nine
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McHale on NBA TV being interviewed at the Rockets summerleague game.

Was talking about all the pieces they lost and mentioned how it's nice that it gives them flexibility for the future then he said.

"Last I checked, flexibility doesn't score points".

Ryan34
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McHale on NBA TV being interviewed at the Rockets summerleague game.

Was talking about all the pieces they lost and mentioned how it's nice that it gives them flexibility for the future then he said.

"Last I checked, flexibility doesn't score points".


Mr.Bond
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Mcfail better not bite the hand that feeds his poor coaching ass.
mAgnoliAg
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Nobody bashed and laughed at Soup after he bragged so much about being right and then ended up actually being wrong?
mAgnoliAg
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And after Boozer's amnesty the minimum offer for him is $1.5 mil per. Let's see if we pursue.
mAgnoliAg
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We are up 45-23 at halftime.
Texaggie7nine
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Boozer for a 1 year contract would not upset me at all.

Houston Summit
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tl; dr
Diet Cokehead
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Rockets are operating currently over the cap due to the S&T for Ariza so they can't bid on Boozer unless they start operating under the cap and renounce the Trade Exception they received for Lin.
aggie_2001_2005
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In other words, the Rockets probably aren't bidding on anyone.
Guitarsoup
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Unless they think they will get Boozer and he is better than anyone they would get with the 8mm trade exception in the next year.
Pahdz
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hit piece on Morey

https://medium.com/the-cauldron/the-man-who-sold-the-world-3df16d8b754a

Not posted as trash talk, since I'm the resident Thunder fan, just wondering what Houston fans thoughts are. OKC will experience some of this eventually with Presti once Westbrook and Durant move on (if they do). As an Astro fan if the #process doesn't pan out, Lunhow will eventually be questioned as well.

I am amazed by Grantland's (mostly Simmons) love affair of Morey. But that's Simmons MO, he'll never admit fault, and will stay dedicated to a stance forever it seems.
Diet Cokehead
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Because Simmons and Morey are good friend. Simmons has never tried to be objective and he's not with Morey (and I really like Simmons a lot).

It's hard to argue a lot of points from that article.

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Seven seasons, countless fluff pieces, and annual Sloan Sports Analytics Conferences later, will someone with public sway finally confront the Daryl Morey conundrum: the most-celebrated, highest-profile general manager in recent history hasn’t actually won anything.


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The recurrent tendency for any profile of Morey and the Rockets is it will be light on substance and heavy on optimism. The future is shaded rose, the ultimate payoff is on the horizon, the momentum is steadily accumulating, the gilded age is a doorway down.


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Details that would subject other GMs to widespread ridicule improbably serve to enhance Morey’s legend. A sports site retweets confirmation that Morey browses internet messageboards for draft and trade suggestions, and frames that in the context of him being visionary.


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Sometimes the coverage veers into outright farce. When Morey acquired undersized draft-bust Thomas Robinson, Bill Simmons mused with astonishment and sycophancy in an email exchange with Grantland writer Zach Lowe:

“All right, I’m up, I’m drinking coffee, I’m ready to go. What did you think of Houston fleecing Sacramento for Thomas Robinson?1 Why do teams continue to trade with Dork Elvis? Everyone, STOP TRADING WITH DORK ELVIS!!!!! I gotta be honest, Zach … I didn’t think trades like this could still happen in 2013.”

Months later, when Morey unloaded Robinson to the Portland Trail Blazers, many sports sites lauded his genius in finding a taker for the same player. Within months, Morey received lavish praise for acquiring and trading the same exact player. This is fodder for The Twilight Zone, not astute sports analysis.


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In particular, Morey and Simmons have wagged the dog on Morey’s and the Rockets’ narrative for mutual benefit. They are each ubiquitous and self-promoting; they are each masterful at manipulating their individual brands to bolster the public perception of them as knowledgeable gatekeepers.


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If there’s one thing on the basketball side of things that absolutely sets Morey apart from his counterparts, it’s his busyness. He has a plethora of employees constantly running mock drafts, sorting through and crunching numbers, putting out feelers to other teams. He’s not shy about overhauling his roster in one fell swoop, acquiring players only to flip them within a year or two. But to what end? At what point does the constant activity and risk-taking have to pay off in tangible playoff success (or even modest playoff success) in order to validate itself? What makes Morey different from a man at a craps table who has been rolling for 3 straight hours, but is still just about even with the house?


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Unsurprisingly, the leeway afforded Morey has bled over into the players he has acquired. Harden has mostly dodged harsh criticism despite his abysmal playoff performances (the man whose flailing, flopping style of basketball has earned him the nickname “Heliflopter” has produced the following playoff numbers as a primary option: 95-for-248 from the floor, 31-for-98 from 3-point territory, 62 assists and 48 turnovers). After his first series as a Rocket, which saw him shoot miserably and turn the ball over too much, especially late in games, Deadspin improbably announced the playoffs miss James Harden. Really?


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Much as with Morey, Harden’s proponents want him praised like a top-tier player (he was named first-team All-NBA this season despite not playing a lick of defense), but never have him subjected to the scrutiny that comes along with the territory
Ganondorf
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It seems like that article was written by Guitar Soup.

He makes a lot of good points but will ultimately be attacked by rockets fans on here because Morey is there guy.
Houston Summit
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Their*
Guitarsoup
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