******Rockets Offseason Roster Moves******* [Staff Warning on page 72]

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concac
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10:16a, 7/15/14
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Spurs - Duncan
Heat - Wade
Mavs - Dirk
Lakers - Kobe
Celtics - Pierce
Rockets - Hakeem
Bulls - Jordan


All of these guys except for Kobe were top 10 picks. Rockets didn't have that luxury since Morey has been the GM.

* Edited: Kobe was 13th pick

[This message has been edited by RealTalk (edited 7/15/2014 9:39a).]
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10:21a, 7/15/14
Cuban thinks Parsons is worth that big contract while Morey does not. One will be right.
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corleoneAg99
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10:28a, 7/15/14
Actually Cuban thinks Dirk and Parsons are worth 25 mill a year.
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Guitarsoup
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10:33a, 7/15/14
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All of these guys were top 10 picks. Rockets didn't have that luxury since Morey has been the GM.


Kobe was 13th.

Nothing has kept Morey from trading into the top 10.
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10:37a, 7/15/14
I don't see how that has to do with Chandler getting 15+ a year.
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10:40a, 7/15/14
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I don't see how that has to do with Chandler getting 15+ a year.


Because without Dirk taking below market value there's not enough money to offer Parsons enough to where Morey wouldn't match.
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10:41a, 7/15/14
That article GS posted about Morey alluded to other star players not wanting to play with Dwight or Harden. Neither seem to have the most likeable personalities by any means, but I thought that was interesting that one of the Grantland writers actually made the point that other players don't want to play with those two guys.

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Think about it. After years of trying, Morey did actually trade his way into a franchise superstar — Dwight Howard — but it turns out he landed the wrong one. Dwight might be the only superstar in the league with whom other stars — LeBron and Carmelo and Bosh, at least — have no interest in playing.

Houston also stole James Harden from OKC, and it was a brilliant move at the time. Everyone around the league was cursing Morey’s evil genius. Two years later, Harden’s a first-team All-NBA guard … and he’s neck-and-neck with Dwight for least-enjoyable teammate in the NBA, and probably the biggest reason everything fell apart for the Rockets in this year’s playoffs.
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10:46a, 7/15/14
Yeah I'm not buying that crap about nobody liking Dwight or Harden. I thought that was poor journalism. Just trying to promote rumors and speculation instead of providing facts and commentary.

The rest was good though
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10:47a, 7/15/14
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Kobe was 13th.

Nothing has kept Morey from trading into the top 10.


You can consider Morey trading for a top 10 pick when he got Harden.

So in essence, we have a young guy we can build around. He got Howard but failed on Bosh. Sh.t happens.

Building a team around a homegrown talent is overrated. Doesn't matter where you get the players just as long as you got them. And players go where the money is at.
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10:50a, 7/15/14
.....seemed like Chandler Parson didn't mind Dwight Howard (or driving his Ferrari).
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10:53a, 7/15/14
I used to think Dwight was a ***** until he came here and I started seeing more of him and how he interacts with people. The dude is an awesome guy.

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10:54a, 7/15/14
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I used to think Dwight was a ***** until he came here and I started seeing more of him and how he interacts with people. The dude is an awesome guy.




Agreed 100%
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10:56a, 7/15/14
Wheelchair Wade is about to get grossly overpaid. 4/60
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10:58a, 7/15/14
Dwight was buying his teammates nice ass watches. I'm sure they all loved him.
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11:07a, 7/15/14
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Because without Dirk taking below market value there's not enough money to offer Parsons enough to where Morey wouldn't match.


Actually, Parsons is still making 15mil per year and either Morey or Cuban will be correct in their analysis of whether or not he was worth that much.
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concac
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11:08a, 7/15/14
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Dwight might be the only superstar in the league with whom other stars — LeBron and Carmelo and Bosh, at least — have no interest in playing.


LeBron and Melo didn't want to play in Dallas or LA. Does that mean that nobody likes to play with Nowitzki or Bryant?

And Bosh got money-whipped by the Heat; otherwise, he would've signed with the Rockets.
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11:10a, 7/15/14
Ridiculous that wheelchair is going to get that much. Dude is broken down and was exposed badly in the finals where he was supposed to shine because they limited his minutes during the season. Heat will be fortunate to make a 6 seed next year.
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11:21a, 7/15/14
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Because without Dirk taking below market value there's not enough money to offer Parsons enough to where Morey wouldn't match.


Actually, Parsons is still making 15mil per year and either Morey or Cuban will be correct in their analysis of whether or not he was worth that much.


Not based on the economic facts.
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11:25a, 7/15/14
nm

[This message has been edited by RealTalk (edited 7/15/2014 10:25a).]
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11:40a, 7/15/14
So Parsons isn't making 15mil per year?
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11:48a, 7/15/14
Sure is and it's directly tied to Dirk only making 10.

I didn't think it was a complicated formula?
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11:50a, 7/15/14
I apologize, I probably wasn't clear the first time.

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Cuban thinks Parsons is worth that big contract while Morey does not. One will be right.
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11:51a, 7/15/14
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corleoneAg99
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11:54a, 7/15/14
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I apologize, I probably wasn't clear the first time.

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Cuban thinks Parsons is worth that big contract while Morey does not. One will be right.


Don't apologize. Sometimes even the most elementary concepts escape some folks.
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12:03p, 7/15/14
Even the Mavs GM admits that Parsons was overpaid. But if Parsons got paid his "ideal value" then Morey would have matched.

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“We did overpay by a little, but that was the spirit of which it was needed to be done,” Nelson said.


http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/mavericks/post/_/id/4702791/nelson-mavs-overpaid-for-parsons-promise
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12:11p, 7/15/14
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It's cute that you think that Morey is done making moves


Feel free to make me look bad sometime later this season when he proves otherwise. That's your time window for that, because I already stated the move may work out better for them in the long-term depending on what happens.

You think he's going to pull something out of his ass this year, that's great for you. I hope it happens. It will be nice when Houston is actually a contender instead of regular season fodder.

Currently they are worse from a competitive standpoint than last season. There is no debating that. We will see if that changes between now and the end of the season.
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12:11p, 7/15/14
Yahoo Sources: Free agent center Joey Dorsey reaches agreement on a two-year deal with the Houston Rockets. http://t.co/623JnyjWLa



The Nicolas batum nightmare trade comes back
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12:13p, 7/15/14
Just tell us when Morey is done making moves. That way we know when to applaud his brilliance.
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12:14p, 7/15/14
Sure thing, pal
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Guitarsoup
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12:23p, 7/15/14
Wheelchair getting 4/60, eh?

http://forums.texags.com/main/forum.reply.asp?forum_id=52&topic_id=2488993&message_id=39819041&hi=1#r39819041


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Mr.Bond
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12:25p, 7/15/14
Soup what's your point? Did you predict it? Thread is too long
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12:26p, 7/15/14
That link goes directly to the post that I predicted Wade would get 4/60.
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12:35p, 7/15/14
So what is our depth chart looking like now?

1 - Bev, Cannan
2 - Harden, Daniels, Johnson
3 - Ariza, Covington, Kostas (new greek guy)
4 - Jones, D-Mo, Capela
5 - Howard, Dorsey

Am I missing anyone?
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12:38p, 7/15/14
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That link goes directly to the post that I predicted Wade would get 4/60.

I am afraid that it does not. It goes to page 1. And I'm not going to sort through 22 pages to find it
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Guitarsoup
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12:39p, 7/15/14
Weird, it does for me.

Bottom of page 2:

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4/50 for Wade just makes no sense when he turned down 2/43 to opt out and can probably get over the MLE in 2 years. That's at least 4/60.

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