quote:quote:quote:Ironically, some biker or diner may have been CCL and when the bad guys started shooting, tried to defend himself. This makes LEOs job MUCH more difficult to make target choice in favor of 'good' guys. No real reason to argue this...just making a point that may or may not apply. Adding speculation to the fire....quote:
Just to clarify, and I probaly have a much different opinion of law enforcement in this country than you do, but I didnt mean to imply that the cops shot a bunch of innocent people. My guess is though they did the most killing. BUt it was an extremely difficult chaotic situation. And its just a guess. I am pretty critical of law enforcement in general, but to your point we really dont know anything at this point.
It's possible that they did, but like you said...that's just a guess at this point. That being said, if any one of them was actively engaged in a shoutout with other people and the police shot them then I don't have a problem with that. If the police shot someone unarmed or that wasn't actively trying to shoot someone else, then that's a whole different story.
Indeed. That's why I was saying a few pages back that if I were caught in this situation I don't think I'd even attempt to go for my gun unless I had no other choice. If just try to hide somewhere and wait for the shooting to stop. But yeah...in a situation like this it would be very easy for a "good guy" with a gun to be mistaken for a "bad guy".
+1 - I would also be concerned about leaving the premises once the police contained the situation. I imagine they were checking everyone for weapons, and even a person with a legal CHL would likely be subject to some additional questioning and possibly arrest.
Personally, I wouldn't have entered the restaurant if I saw that many bikes parked out front.