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Ozzy Osbourne said:

We're on the "great replacement is real but it's good, actually" phase.


Pretty much.
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BigRobSA said:

Sweep4-2 said:

Wow. So my friend who is of Brazilian origin but born/raised in Texas and has lived his entire life in TX isn't a Texan? He's going to be disappointed when I let him know haha.

Thanks for clarifying that.

For fun, call him Mexican.



He'll cuss me out in Portuguese!!!
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Zobel said:

Sweep4-2 said:

Wow. So my friend who is of Brazilian origin but born/raised in Texas and has lived his entire life in TX isn't a Texan? He's going to be disappointed when I let him know haha.

Thanks for clarifying that.

I didn't say anything, I asked you a question. Does that mean a Dutch guy born in India is Indian?

Honestly, I'm not familiar enough with their immigration laws regarding citizenship.

If he's an Indian citizen and lives India, I'd say he's Indian despite where his parents are from.

Trying to assign people's degree of "Texan" by looking at them and basing it on the tone of their skin color is a little sketchy. (Not saying this is what you're doing, just a general statement).
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So immigration laws determine whether or not someone is a Texan?

If the law changes, does that un-Texan someone?

Was there no such thing as a Texan before 1836?
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Follow up. If degree of Texan is based on immigration laws, a person born here from a foreign parent, and immediately moved out and raised in another country - China, say - this person is as Texan as anyone. Speaks no English. Has no ties to the state. Never returns.

True? False?
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I think I'll just retreat here and say that you've got your definition of what makes a Texan, and I've got mine. And they are very different.

Have a good one.
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Our posts crossed -- no, wouldn't see that one from your recent example being a 'Texan' in my definition either.

My main point was just looking at a person's skin color to judge their degree of Texan isn't accurate.

But I don't expect to change anyone's mind on that one.
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Aw come on man. These are important topics! You have made a strong claim. Even hit me with a "wow" implying my views were shocking. You have the moral high ground here right? Answer the question. Seems simple no?
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My example is based on being a citizen of Texan which is what you said yours is. Immigration law says it.

What defines it if not immigration law or citizenship?
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Apparently you can put on a t-shirt and a cowboy hat and you become a Texan! It's so easy
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Great questions, but something tells me that responding will only result in more questions.

No need to respond back with more, we're in different places. All good, have a great day.
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JD Vance has advanced the theory that being an American is not part of subscribing to an ideal. That it's actually who your ancestors are and who your people are. If you are someone who can trace your American ancestry to the the Civil War, then you are more an American that someone who can only trace their American roots to their immigrant parents or to themselves.

It's a way of saying that white Americans are at the front of the line, period. And being American is not circumscribed by the ideals of American inscribed in the founding documents of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. You came to America to be an American? So what. Get to the back of the line.

This is what Bo French is talking about. These are not "true" Americans. These are the brown Americans replacing the true white Americans.

It's just merely stoking nativist racism. He sees this as his path to power and influence. And by the responses seen here, many people agree with him. Of course, there are many people here who don't and have said as much.
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I'll answer any question you like. Near as I can tell you want to be able to decide who a Texan is by a personal definition and you don't want anyone else to have the same option.
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Ok. What is your definition of a Texan?
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lol. Vance married a Hindu woman.

Your opinion is crap once again.
No amount of logic is going to convince the illogical that orange man isn't so bad that we should all vote for socialists in 2026. He wants to vote for a socialist who wants to kill the O&G industry, dismantle capitalism, open the borders, ban guns, legalize abortion up to birth, allow men to play girls sports and hang out in women's locker rooms, and pay for trans surgeries for little kids. SIGNED txags92
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Maximus of Tejas said:

YouBet said:

Right. Texas and Mexico are intertwined historically, culturally, and geographically.

India. Not so much.

It's amazing how many Americans can't even get to this point. We are a rootless nation with nothing to bind us except an illusion of freedom. Hyper individuality has ruined everyone. Civil unrest in our country will be a very bleak and horrifying time. My guess is that it will begin summer 2027 after months of increasing fuel and product prices along with more fraud and evil exposed.

One year off - 2028 because of the elections
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I know people are trying to be serious here, but this is actually kind of funny.

If you don't have anything nice to say about anybody, come sit by me.
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None of the founding fathers of the US or of Texas believed that anyone could become an American.

Fewer than 4000 Mexicans lived in Texas in 1836 - around 10% of the population. This percentage was roughly maintained until the 1970s when 85% of the population was still white.

The constitution of the US describes a government established to secure the blessings of liberty for posterity. The 1836 constitution of Texas uses the same language.

Who is the posterity of those men?
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Sweep4-2 said:

Our posts crossed -- no, wouldn't see that one from your recent example being a 'Texan' in my definition either.

My main point was just looking at a person's skin color to judge their degree of Texan isn't accurate.

But I don't expect to change anyone's mind on that one.


Well duh. Black people are Texan. Hispanics are Texan. They both have deep history here.

You're the one trying to make it only about skin color.

I went dove hunting in South Texas yesterday with one of my good Hispanic friends. He shares my views. I must be doing this racist thing wrong.
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shiftyandquick said:

JD Vance has advanced the theory that being an American is not part of subscribing to an ideal. That it's actually who your ancestors are and who your people are. If you are someone who can trace your American ancestry to the the Civil War, then you are more an American that someone who can only trace their American roots to their immigrant parents or to themselves.

It's a way of saying that white Americans are at the front of the line, period. And being American is not circumscribed by the ideals of American inscribed in the founding documents of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. You came to America to be an American? So what. Get to the back of the line.

This is what Bo French is talking about. These are not "true" Americans. These are the brown Americans replacing the true white Americans.

It's just merely stoking nativist racism. He sees this as his path to power and influence. And by the responses seen here, many people agree with him. Of course, there are many people here who don't and have said as much.


I would like to see his statements on this, if true. If he is saying this, then he's downgrading his own wife who is Indian?

And if he is saying this, I suspect it is coming from the POV that our diversity obsession has gone off the rails because of 4 years of open borders under the Democrats. And the fact that foreign born coupled with white college graduates are now openly communist. Communists are not remotely American nor compatible with American ideals.

What you are seeing are people who are naturally revolting against something - left wing ideology - that is going to destroy everything that America was founded upon.
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If we were a serious nation we would be wanting more feathers not dots.
No amount of logic is going to convince the illogical that orange man isn't so bad that we should all vote for socialists in 2026. He wants to vote for a socialist who wants to kill the O&G industry, dismantle capitalism, open the borders, ban guns, legalize abortion up to birth, allow men to play girls sports and hang out in women's locker rooms, and pay for trans surgeries for little kids. SIGNED txags92
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Bo French made another post, this time with pics of (presumably) Native Americans. I can't post pics but here is the caption he wrote to go with the pic:

"Since we are going to denaturalize and deport all the third world savages who hate our country, I am calling for adding these third world savages, who we conquered then bizarrely let have a nation inside our nation, to the list."

He seems nice.
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The fact that all of you all are defending students at that stupid college in Austin tells me that all is lost and old army is officially dead
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FlyRod said:

Bo French made another post, this time with pics of (presumably) Native Americans. I can't post pics but here is the caption he wrote to go with the pic:

"Since we are going to denaturalize and deport all the third world savages who hate our country, I am calling for adding these third world savages, who we conquered then bizarrely let have a nation inside our nation, to the list."

He seems nice.


Post the evidence. Otherwise you are posting misinformation.
No amount of logic is going to convince the illogical that orange man isn't so bad that we should all vote for socialists in 2026. He wants to vote for a socialist who wants to kill the O&G industry, dismantle capitalism, open the borders, ban guns, legalize abortion up to birth, allow men to play girls sports and hang out in women's locker rooms, and pay for trans surgeries for little kids. SIGNED txags92
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A person who is born in Texas to a Texan parent, or who has lived in Texas a sufficient time to establish their identity as a part of the Texan polity.

If you want to make it "creedal" then we need to define what creed defines a Texan. Being born here wouldn't cover it.
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HowdyTexasAggies said:

Old McDonald said:

VaterAg said:

They're at an American football game enthusiastically cheering for their favorite team. I'd say they've assimilated rather well.
the fact that none of the common complaints about immigrants from people like bo french (they don't assimilate, their culture is incompatible with america, etc.) apply to the students in this picture, and he still felt the need to say what he did, leaves only racism as the explanation.


H1B fraud isn't a racist topic.
no, but the implication that indian students and their families are by default H1B fraudsters is
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Thanks, fair enough. Makes sense.

I appreciate your questions, and also your providing the response to mine.
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FlyRod said:

Bo French made another post, this time with pics of (presumably) Native Americans. I can't post pics but here is the caption he wrote to go with the pic:

"Since we are going to denaturalize and deport all the third world savages who hate our country, I am calling for adding these third world savages, who we conquered then bizarrely let have a nation inside our nation, to the list."

He seems nice.


I can find no evidence of this.

Are you lying?
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Old McDonald said:

HowdyTexasAggies said:

Old McDonald said:

VaterAg said:

They're at an American football game enthusiastically cheering for their favorite team. I'd say they've assimilated rather well.
the fact that none of the common complaints about immigrants from people like bo french (they don't assimilate, their culture is incompatible with america, etc.) apply to the students in this picture, and he still felt the need to say what he did, leaves only racism as the explanation.


H1B fraud isn't a racist topic.
no, but the implication that indian students and their families are by default H1B fraudsters is


Typical lib logic. H1B fraud in Texas is rampant by Indians. Thats a fact, not racist.
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Question for those throwing racism around. You think it's good bad or neutral if Texas goes from being 80% white in 1980 to 10% white? How about 0% white, would that be good bad or irrelevant?
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bobbranco said:

lol. Vance married a Hindu woman.

Your opinion is crap once again.

Which makes pandering to white nationalism and Christian nationalism so bizarre. Why would you throw your wife and kids under the bus like that? Why would you imply that your own kids are less American than other Americans?
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its also pretty funny that the racists are triggered by this shot of the crowd which, if you bother to look beyond the foreground, includes a **** ton of white kids too. pretty apt encapsulation of the "great replacement" hysteria.
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Some facts to consider:

In a state where white males (non-hispanic) make up 20% of the population, the white male (non-hispanic) student population at one of the states 2 flagship schools is only 12.5%.

That makes little sense statistically unless there is a specific intent to reduce those numbers.
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Cornyn got his a hole blown out in the primary. Dont give a **** what he thinks anymore.

Get bent.
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Lol. Maybe time to wake up and realize white people are getting sold out by their fellow white dudes at the top. Easier to blame some Texas undergrad for H1B issues rather than realize who is actually picking their pocket...but it's gotta be the Indian student at UT attending a football game that's the problem...right? Never would be their fellow white dude politician / CEO!
 
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