Student Section at tu, and Cornyn

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Zobel
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Ok. How about 35%?
Texaguser17
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New World Ag said:

If this isn't the most xenophobic thread in F16 history, I don't know what is.


Why don't groups that advocate for their race and decry white people ever get called xenophobic? Why is it socially ok to advocate for any race except for white people?
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If posting about "back in my day!!!" could change the course of history, TexAgs would really be onto something!

But it doesn't. And it won't.

The world will continue to change, just as it always has. I'm a native Texan, but I'm not dumb enough to think the world will look the exact same way in hundreds of years that it did hundreds of years ago.
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HTownAg98 said:

He felt it was bad enough to apologize and take it down. Maybe xenophobic is a better term?


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Sweep4-2 said:

If posting about "back in my day!!!" could change the course of history, TexAgs would really be onto something!

But it doesn't. And it won't.

The world will continue to change, just as it always has. I'm a native Texan, but I'm not dumb enough to think the world will look the exact same way in hundreds of years that it did hundreds of years ago.


What kind of change do you want to see? Do you want Texas to be more like India? Don't pretend you don't have any power and you're just a victim of circumstances
Zobel
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Brother I'm not worried about a hundred years from now. The demographic makeup of Texas was more or less stable from 1836 to the 1980s and has changed radically since then. Your point is that someday the sun will go out so it doesn't matter?
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It doesn't impact me one way or the other. Not a victim, not a power broker.

I was dumb enough in an earlier post to imply that judging a person's commitment to Texas based on how light / dark their skin is, doesn't make much sense.

But I've since been corrected.
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Texaguser17
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Peopl: let's replace white people and enact policies to bring it about.

White people "hey I don't want to be replaced"

They respond "You're a racist!!!!"
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agsalaska said:

I agree with Cornyn. Very stupid thing to post.

Cornyn's career is over. He had no reason to wade into this. However, he is going to take a lot of shots at Republicans on his way out because he's a spiteful RINO *****.
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New World Ag
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I don't see this issue. Many of my clients are 1st or 2nd generation South or East Asian immigrants. Same with Latin Americans. I've had clients from Nigeria, Ethiopia, Taiwan, Phillipines, Vietnam, Turkey, And yes, many are Caucasian, too. I really don't care.
Zobel
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Why are you avoiding the question?

Come on. You said, more or less, that the demographic makeup of the state is irrelevant. I said to zero and you refused (even tho probability isn't contingent on the statement). Now 35 and it's aw shucks I know lots of good folks.
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VaterAg said:

NightHawk150 said:

I wasn't originally gonna post this, but cause it feels too racist to do so (and I'm one of the brownies, Mexican kind), but then I saw Cornyn opine, and wanted to get y'all's thoughts.

So, tu posted their hype vid after the win yesterday…


And sure enough, this is their student section:


Like, we all know how it feels like Texas is getting overrun at an alarming rate. And I say overrun because when large swath of people come from another country, a different culture, and don't assimilate into our established culture, customs, and traditions, well, issues arise. At least when my parents came here in search of a better life, yes they wanted me to hang on to the customs they grew up with, but at the same time, they wanted to, and in turn, wanted me to grow up with American cultures and values instilled. Something as simple as turkey on thanksgiving, and burgers and hot dogs for Fourth of July. People may not it's a big deal, but it's the little things that grow, seeds if you will, that blossom and open the gates to understand why we do things, and falling in love with them in the process. I love America, what she stands for, and the resilience and courage her people show, such as the World Wars, 9/11, any instance of evil facing her people, America has always stood as a beacon of hope for her people. And I don't believe the people coming here know no care to know about that…

I'll get off my soapbox now… anyways, then I see Cornyn post this, and I'm just like, there's no way they thought this would go over well.


So what's y'all's thoughts? Also I'm posting this on my phone while waiting on my waffles from waffle house, so sorry if the links don't come through.


They're at an American football game enthusiastically cheering for their favorite team. I'd say they've assimilated rather well.

And mental ******ation evidently has no cultural or racial bias.
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VaterAg
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New World Ag said:

If this isn't the most xenophobic thread in F16 history, I don't know what is.


And you may not have seen the posts that staph deleted too.

But also note there are equally as many, if not more, people calling out the xenophobia.
Queso1
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I don't have a problem with these kids if they are citizens born here. But, the policies that brought their parents is intentional and irresponsible.
Dan Carlin
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I was assured recently by resident F16ers that white nationalism and Christian nationalism were just made up constructs.
New World Ag
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Perhaps I didn't make it clear. I don't see any issues with any of those items. Kids become Americanized, or in this case "Texanized". Their kids even more so. White boys will marry cute Indian chicks, to the chagrin of the "pure blood" crowd.
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Zobel said:

Brother I'm not worried about a hundred years from now. The demographic makeup of Texas was more or less stable from 1836 to the 1980s and has changed radically since then. Your point is that someday the sun will go out so it doesn't matter?

Fair enough. And I do agree with a couple of your posts (and the one on being committed to being a Texan).

Most of my friends are not native Texans (having moved here from Central and South America), but they are college educated, quickly pursued/obtained US citizenship, and are more Texan than most native Texans I know.

Their children graduated at the top of their classes in HS, are active in sports, clubs, etc. Heck, two of them have children who work for conservative congressmen. The others are pursuing careers in engineering and business.

There are plenty of people who came to the US and Texas and deliver FAR more than many people who were born here. All while actively being part of society.

So seeing people question their 'Texan-ness' based on their skin color makes no sense to me. Not saying you did this....just making a comment in general.
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Man, those kids look like they're having fun.

My daughter is a freshman at Texas and she has been the minority in a few classes and organizations she's part of. She's doing okay and everyone is being cool.

Bo is an idiot and needs to check his attempt at populism.
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Dan Carlin said:

I was assured recently by resident F16ers that white nationalism and Christian nationalism were just made up constructs.


And I was assured that replacement theory was a conspiracy construct. Yet here we are.
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Sweep4-2 said:

Pretty sure the state looked different 250 years ago. And that it'll look different 250 years from now. And that none of us have a clue as to what it will look like.

Despite the number of hand wringing posts on TexAgs.

We have a pretty big clue actually.
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Sweep4-2 said:

If posting about "back in my day!!!" could change the course of history, TexAgs would really be onto something!

But it doesn't. And it won't.

The world will continue to change, just as it always has. I'm a native Texan, but I'm not dumb enough to think the world will look the exact same way in hundreds of years that it did hundreds of years ago.

No, India is still pretty consistently Indian, and the same can be said for most non-European societies.

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That is one great replacement!
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New World Ag said:

Perhaps I didn't make it clear. I don't see any issues with any of those items. Kids become Americanized, or in this case "Texanized". Their kids even more so. White boys will marry cute Indian chicks, to the chagrin of the "pure blood" crowd.


What do you mean when you say "Kids become Americanized"? It sounds like you think people from other nations are interchangeable with Texans or Americans.
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My phrasing sounded less morbid than just saying "We will all be dead and none of our opinions posted on 'TexAgs will make a flippin' bit of difference".

Consistency: It's only a virtue if you're not a screw-up.
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Sweep4-2 said:

My phrasing sounded less morbid than just saying "We will all be dead and none of our opinions posted on 'TexAgs will make a flippin' bit of difference".




You don't care about what kind of country your children will inherit?
Zobel
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Nobody has said anything about pure blood. But that's fine - you refusing to answer the question is clear enough, because the idea that the culture and institutions of Texas are completely unrelated to the people who made them is absurd. You don't want to admit it, I get it.
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Had multiple tu grads (graduated in the 70s) comment on the noticeably brown student section. They were disappointed. These are not racist men. But they are proud of being white.

Society has attacked whites for a long time now. Between the border, Academia, hollywood, Summer of Love, and every commercial having a black man with a white woman, I think they've won. Congrats.

History will settle that homogeneous, white, Christian America is what made it great. Racially & religiously diverse America is what killed it.
Zobel
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There's no issue with limited immigration - though even that has a radically different definition from the founding of our country or of the Republic of Texas through 1965. Limited immigration along with a strong culture, strong institutions that force assimilation is clearly a benefit.

The problem is when you have unchecked immigration, illegal or otherwise, assimilation stops. And when you have rapid change in the demographics of a state - through things like birthright citizenship and universal suffrage - a democratic republic can be completely changed.

It is foolishness to pretend that large changes in demographics in a state don't bring with them material changes in culture and politics.

The problem is most people are told that saying the above is evil, racist, xenophobia, and that we have to be unbiased and fair blah blah blah all the other stuff you see on this thread. And that somehow wanting our state that we inherited from our forefathers, who fought and bled and worked to make it what it is, to go to our posterity in a privileged sense, and not the posterity of the entire world, is similarly wrong.

That sentiment is flatly un-American and un-Texan and is wholly foreign to the mind of our founders and even people one or two generations before us. Our society has been radically and dramatically changed in living memory! Go ask a baby boomer what Texas was like in the 60s and 70s. It's completely changed.
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This is an interesting take.



Some will see this photo and see it as evidence of assimilation - Indians celebrating their school's football win. But if this was true assimilation, you'd see one or two Indians surrounded by non-Indian friends.

Immigrants have always clustered in enclaves with their fellow co-ethnics, but public institutions - especially elite public institutions like universities - existed to break that loyalty and to Americanize them, to - in effect - make them auxiliary whites. And that was the path of previous generations of immigrants.

But the problem with MASS IMMIGRATION is that these ethnic enclaves that are able to re-create themselves in suburban developments, in the workplace, in universities, etc. so that they can enjoy all the material comforts of American life while still seeing themselves as part of a ethnic clan rather than as Americans.

Immigration works in small numbers when newcomers can be overwhelmed and absorbed into the native culture. Mass immigration has broken the assimilation model.
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3 percent black Texas population to 13 percent today does not sound correct. There are less in my hometown today compared to 1970 I would bet.

Did that many blacks immigrate to Texas in the last 55 years and if so from where?
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I do. But I would never tell them that people's worth is based on the color of their skin, or on whether they were born in a particular state or country.

Consistency: It's only a virtue if you're not a screw-up.
New World Ag
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I did answer. I don't see any issue.
Dan Carlin
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Queso1 said:

Dan Carlin said:

I was assured recently by resident F16ers that white nationalism and Christian nationalism were just made up constructs.


And I was assured that replacement theory was a conspiracy construct. Yet here we are.


It is definitely a fact that you will get replaced in society by people that are smarter and work harder than you. HTH.
Zobel
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Hang on. That's not an accurate characterization. Nobody has said people are worth less because of the color of their skin.

You don't have to think other people's children are worth less than yours to prefer yours, and to have both duty and responsibility to yours over theirs.

That same relationship exists to your immediate family, your extended family, your state, and your countrymen. This is not xenophobia or racism!
 
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