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ShaggySLC said:




Look at his face? Looks like he's been kidnapped. Or pooped his pants
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Infection_Ag11 said:

Vessel said:

Why did he use a picture? Because a giant group of Indians at a football game does a really good job of making the point.

And he wasn't the first to notice it. The camera shots were being widely discussed on far right twitter during and immediately after the game. He reposted a picture that had been in circulation for a long time already.

The problem is those arent Indians, they're Americans. Their parents and grandparents were Indians. The kids in the photo are indistinguishable from white American college students in every way but skin color.

This idea that that picture is filled with a bunch of F1s who barely speak English is just wrong. And using that as the launching point for the argument that we need to limit future immigration, which i agree with, is silly. Those kids are from families that have been here for 2-3 generations in many cases, and they are/will be highly productive and law abiding members of society that offer real financial value.


Right.
The real issue is foreigners overrunning our country, stealing jobs and replacing the culture.

These kids in the pic aren't the problematic people. They are Americans, born in the US, and assimilated as to attend football games and cheering for their team. They seem like anyone else.... except... they are not white.

Now the folks who want non-whites out, why don't they come out and say it? Be bold.
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Vessel said:

Yeah Dhairya Gupta is indistinguishable from John Smith. Basically the same in every way.


Yup. Americans. If you feel Americans are white and only white, just say so.

We are US citizens: Meet Dhairya Gupta and Rahul Kodali who went to watch a football match. Now their faces are target of racist rants
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/we-are-us-citizens-meet-dhairya-gupta-and-rahul-kodali-who-went-to-watch-a-football-match-now-their-faces-are-target-of-racist-rants/articleshow/134292449.cms

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Gupta said he came to the US when he was 5 years old and got his citizenship in his childhood.

Kodali was born in Syracuse, New York
. His family moved to the Dallas area when he was a toddler. He graduated from Flower Mound High School in Denton County and receives in-state tuition."Whether or not we are immigrants, that doesn't change anything," Kodali said.

"I've been an American my entire life."



Hmm. Never thought that I would someday be defending a Longhorn!
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Vessel said:

Infection_Ag11 said:

Vessel said:

Yeah Dhairya Gupta is indistinguishable from John Smith. Basically the same in every way.

So we've arrived at the crux of the issue: Your definition of an American includes specifically and exclusively those Americans of white European descent. And, I assume, distant descent so as to exclude any uniquely European cultural or language norms that have not been retained her.

And that's fine, but just say it. Don't play these silly games. Own the opinion.


It's all in the open in the rest of the thread that you apparently refuse to read.


Do you consider yourself a racist? Be honest.
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That pic exactly represents foreigners overrunning the country. The fact that so many were let in is THE problem.

Be bold...why not just come out and say you want non-whites overrunning the country.
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VaterAg said:

Vessel said:

Infection_Ag11 said:

Vessel said:

Yeah Dhairya Gupta is indistinguishable from John Smith. Basically the same in every way.

So we've arrived at the crux of the issue: Your definition of an American includes specifically and exclusively those Americans of white European descent. And, I assume, distant descent so as to exclude any uniquely European cultural or language norms that have not been retained her.

And that's fine, but just say it. Don't play these silly games. Own the opinion.


It's all in the open in the rest of the thread that you apparently refuse to read.


Do you consider yourself a racist? Be honest.



The 1990's called. They want their guilt trips back.

That doesn't work anymore sorry.

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BMX Bandit said:

Spergin said:



Looks like it's working out well for French and bad for the RINOs.


Update;




This morning French is down 58-45 (yah how does that math work), he was up 72-30 before the Tweet.
VaterAg
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Farmer_J said:

VaterAg said:

Vessel said:

Infection_Ag11 said:

Vessel said:

Yeah Dhairya Gupta is indistinguishable from John Smith. Basically the same in every way.

So we've arrived at the crux of the issue: Your definition of an American includes specifically and exclusively those Americans of white European descent. And, I assume, distant descent so as to exclude any uniquely European cultural or language norms that have not been retained her.

And that's fine, but just say it. Don't play these silly games. Own the opinion.


It's all in the open in the rest of the thread that you apparently refuse to read.


Do you consider yourself a racist? Be honest.



The 1990's called. They want their guilt trips back.

That doesn't work anymore sorry.




You say that, yet, I suspect he only shares those views privately or on anonymous message boards. There is no way he shares them at work, at church, with extended family, or out in the open.
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I don't understand why this has to be a contentious or racist related claim.

Is it racist to acknowledge that Japanese people are a distinct ethnicity? There was a time in the past when they were not, but over time they became one due to cultural influx and isolation. Ethnogensis of the Japanese was around 500 AD.

The English later than that, Britons to Anglos and Saxons, more Scandinavian, then the Normans in 1100, producing the now-English broader ethnicity in the 1300s. It took ~200 years from the Normans to English in Parliament because few spoke French any more.

The American colonies were similar. You had a broad European mixture, and over hundreds of years that produced a self-consciously distinct people. Americans described themselves on these terms, a singular people, normally and repeatedly, including founding fathers like John Jay and Thomas Jefferson. This continued and this "white American" identity was a distinct thing. An American was not an Englishman, and American was not Italian.

The fact that there is a civic identity of American doesn't mean there isn't an ethnic identity American. It isnt racist to talk about that American ethnicity any more than it is to talk about a Jewish, Indian, or Japanese identity.

Distinction does not imply opposition. Saying one person is American by ethnicity and another is Indian by ethnicity doesn't mean you're saying on that basis alone one is inferior to the other.
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Vessel said:

The problem is you and 90% of the country don't understand the issue with the picture. The picture is a metaphor. The problem isn't with individuals. Nobody hates those kids in the picture (before they started talking to media).

It's with the demographics of our country shifting so drastically and in such a short time period without the permission/consent of the inhabitants.

It doesn't matter how many times we say this, or how simple or eloquently it is expressed.

White liberals, current Indian-Americans and the corporate and government leaders who benefit financially from Indian immigration will immediately twist it into something else.

"YOU HATE THOSE KIDS!"
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Turning point at UT statement
Vessel
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VaterAg said:

Vessel said:

Infection_Ag11 said:

Vessel said:

Yeah Dhairya Gupta is indistinguishable from John Smith. Basically the same in every way.

So we've arrived at the crux of the issue: Your definition of an American includes specifically and exclusively those Americans of white European descent. And, I assume, distant descent so as to exclude any uniquely European cultural or language norms that have not been retained her.

And that's fine, but just say it. Don't play these silly games. Own the opinion.


It's all in the open in the rest of the thread that you apparently refuse to read.


Do you consider yourself a racist? Be honest.



In the way that you mean it? Yes.

Dictionary definition? No.
torrid
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bubblesthechimp said:

Turning point at UT statement

Charlie Kirk would be proud.
Zobel
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This Charlie Kirk?

torrid
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I think he'd make a distinction between a political discussion on immigration policy and attacking American college students enjoying a football game just because they look different.
Zobel
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Here is the statement in the OP

I heard UT graduation this year looked like this. I didn't believe it. The problem is now obviously far worse than anyone imagined.

Where is the attack on students just because they looked different?
BharatAg
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The right word for you is ethnonationalist, not racist.
torrid
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BharatAg said:

The right word for you is ethnonationalist, not racist.

I fail to see the difference.
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Zobel said:

Here is the statement in the OP

I heard UT graduation this year looked like this. I didn't believe it. The problem is now obviously far worse than anyone imagined.

Where is the attack on students just because they looked different?


You forgot to share the photo that was posted with that statement.
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Is this article racist?
https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-catchphrase-of-the-century-israel-is-a-nation-state/
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Oh, how the phrase "Israel is an ethno state" has become the mantra of those eager to cast Israel as something uniquely sinister. Repeated like a prayer by critics who seem to believe they've unearthed some profound revelation, it's wielded as though it's an indictment rather than the simplest, most self-evident fact.

An ethno state is simply a country formed around a shared identity of language, culture, religion, or ethnicity. In other words, it's a form of nation statewhere the nation (a cultural or ethnic community) and the state (the political entity) are joined. This isn't some aberration. It's the rule, not the exception. Most nations are built this way.


Zobel
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Is a photo an attack? Where is the attack?
Bull Meachem
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Zobel said:

Is a photo an attack? Where is the attack?

Why was that photo the one that was shared? Being obtuse is a strategy but it isn't a good one.
Zobel
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Being obtuse is not being able to answer a simple question to support your position. You said they were attacked, but you are asking me to explain your point. I say they weren't.
Bull Meachem
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Zobel said:

Being obtuse is not being able to answer a simple question to support your position. You said they were attacked, but you are asking me to explain your point. I say they weren't.

Did I say that?
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OK I think we're done here. Apparently you are incapable of making a point or having a discussion. Sad.
Bull Meachem
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Zobel said:

OK I think we're done here. Apparently you are incapable of making a point or having a discussion. Sad.

And now you understand why obtuse responses are annoying.

The attack was implied. Apparently, the presence of these kids on the UT campus is some sort of problem that is bigger than what is being acknowledged. They shouldn't be on this campus or they've somehow created a problem with being on campus.
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torrid said:

I think he'd make a distinction between a political discussion on immigration policy and attacking American college students enjoying a football game just because they look different.

That is so right.

The stupid politician personalized the attack with clear pictures of students having fun watching a game.

He could make a point about tu's indian student population AWAY from that game. What a horse's ass.

Charlie Kirk would never....not in a million years. He actually cared about people. All people.
Zobel
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The left always lives and dies by projection. I'm not being obtuse, I'm asking you to support your position. You obviously believe it is an attack, but you wouldn't say so. Now you do, and the problem is, there is no evidence of an attack.

And yes. It is being presented as symbolic or anecdotal evidence of the demographic shift in this state, which is bigger than is being acknowledged.

That is not an attack, implied or otherwise. Which is the point. And now we understand why you didn't want to respond.
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https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3623336/replies/72877908

Again. This Charlie Kirk?
Bull Meachem
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Zobel said:

The left always lives and dies by projection. I'm not being obtuse, I'm asking you to support your position. You obviously believe it is an attack, but you wouldn't say so. Now you do, and the problem is, there is no evidence of an attack.

And yes. It is being presented as symbolic or anecdotal evidence of the demographic shift in this state, which is bigger than is being acknowledged.

That is not an attack, implied or otherwise. Which is the point. And now we understand why you didn't want to respond.

If you are correct, why did he share that picture and use those words, in your opinion?

What defines an attack, in your opinion?
AxelFoley85
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So why not just come out and say it?
Crocker
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Kodali and Gupta families and jillions more come to the US from India, hang only with other Indians, join the Indian student association, advocate for other Indians, and by the way got admissions preference on the way in.

And the white guys are the racists for noticing the problem? That slur lost its shaming power 10 years ago.
Old McDonald
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ethnonationalists would be much more successful at trojan horsing their racial grievances into mainstream politics if they could just act normal and not annoying when thrust into the spotlight like this.

every time something like the bo french tweet happens and their log gets turned over, they spend the next week sperging online and doing the "we demand to be taken seriously" routine long past the point the rest of society says "ew" and turns it back over.
Vessel
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WestAustinAg said:

torrid said:

I think he'd make a distinction between a political discussion on immigration policy and attacking American college students enjoying a football game just because they look different.

That is so right.

The stupid politician personalized the attack with clear pictures of students having fun watching a game.

He could make a point about tu's indian student population AWAY from that game. What a horse's ass.

Charlie Kirk would never....not in a million years. He actually cared about people. All people.

Our position didn't make it personal about the kids in the picture. The left and center right did.

We assumed people were smart enough to understand the point being made. I think we are correct in our assumption, but y'all's side is so indefensible that you made it personal about the kids in the picture. It's funny how the right will turn in to leftists when people further right than them show up.
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Bull Meachem said:

Zobel said:

The left always lives and dies by projection. I'm not being obtuse, I'm asking you to support your position. You obviously believe it is an attack, but you wouldn't say so. Now you do, and the problem is, there is no evidence of an attack.

And yes. It is being presented as symbolic or anecdotal evidence of the demographic shift in this state, which is bigger than is being acknowledged.

That is not an attack, implied or otherwise. Which is the point. And now we understand why you didn't want to respond.

If you are correct, why did he share that picture and use those words, in your opinion?

What defines an attack, in your opinion?

Because nothing demonstrates how crazy our immigration system is quite like a mass of Indians on primetime TV during a college football game featuring two historical blue bloods.

How is this not so obvious?
 
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