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So you think in two years Trump should've fixed all the bull**** from four years of Biden? All the while fighting liberal Obama judges thwarting him at every turn?

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No, but I do think more can be done.

Trump has done more than others, for sure, but I think that he should do more than he has. I wish he would. Now, if there's nothing else he can do, well that sucks and we're all out of luck.

Anyway, we've got way too many American graduates having to settle for jobs they didn't even go to school for because H1Bs are sitting in jobs our kids should have.

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This is not a Trump issue.
Trump is working within a very narrow framework, that restricts how much he can do.

This is a Congress issue and Congress seems to go out of its way to screw Americans instead of working for them.

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This is not true, no matter how many times people want to make it so. The idea is absurd on its face, it is not a law of nature, we do not have to accept it as if it were.

As for who to blame, I have no personal malice toward immigrants. That's why framing this as "omg u r so racis" is a pointless waste of time. It doesn't matter. It's not about them personally or even collectively. It is about us and our home.

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How is it not true if it's in the Constitution?

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So you think in two years Trump should've fixed all the bull**** from four years of Biden? All the while fighting liberal Obama judges thwarting him at every turn?

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No, but I do think more can be done.

Trump has done more than others, for sure, but I think that he should do more than he has. I wish he would. Now, if there's nothing else he can do, well that sucks and we're all out of luck.

Anyway, we've got way too many American graduates having to settle for jobs they didn't even go to school for because H1Bs are sitting in jobs our kids should have.

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This is not a Trump issue.
Trump is working within a very narrow framework, that restricts how much he can do.

This is a Congress issue and Congress seems to go out of its way to screw Americans instead of working for them.

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Preaching to the choir on this one.

I will say Trump could be using his platform like previous ones did and hammer them daily to get things changed. I mean, the guy tweets so often it's not implausible to think he could throw a few in every day about this issue.

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This is not true, no matter how many times people want to make it so. The idea is absurd on its face, it is not a law of nature, we do not have to accept it as if it were.

As for who to blame, I have no personal malice toward immigrants. That's why framing this as "omg u r so racis" is a pointless waste of time. It doesn't matter. It's not about them personally or even collectively. It is about us and our home.

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How is it not true if it's in the Constitution?

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This is not true, no matter how many times people want to make it so. The idea is absurd on its face, it is not a law of nature, we do not have to accept it as if it were.

As for who to blame, I have no personal malice toward immigrants. That's why framing this as "omg u r so racis" is a pointless waste of time. It doesn't matter. It's not about them personally or even collectively. It is about us and our home.

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I simply cannot wrap my head around this. I have never accepted people born here, to legal families, as anything less than American. I'm not talking illegal aliens, anchor babies, or birth tourism. They were born here, it is their home too.

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This is not true, no matter how many times people want to make it so. The idea is absurd on its face, it is not a law of nature, we do not have to accept it as if it were.

As for who to blame, I have no personal malice toward immigrants. That's why framing this as "omg u r so racis" is a pointless waste of time. It doesn't matter. It's not about them personally or even collectively. It is about us and our home.

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How is it not true if it's in the Constitution?

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It's the difference between house and home.

For many Indians, this is just a "land of opportunity." Its a completely transactional relationship, not one of true love. Even though they are US Citizens, their first instinct is to do what's best for India. The US is a house, not a home.

This attitude perseveres into the next generation too, which is distressing and depressing. I know a family member who grew up in California, goes to UCLA med school, and tells everyone in India that the US is a racist country. That kind of shi$ just pisses me off.

The parents came here, clearly excelled, and still bad mouth the country and people that gave them so much.

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This is not true, no matter how many times people want to make it so. The idea is absurd on its face, it is not a law of nature, we do not have to accept it as if it were.

As for who to blame, I have no personal malice toward immigrants. That's why framing this as "omg u r so racis" is a pointless waste of time. It doesn't matter. It's not about them personally or even collectively. It is about us and our home.

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I simply cannot wrap my head around this. I have never accepted people born here, to legal families, as anything less than American. I'm not talking illegal aliens, anchor babies, or birth tourism. They were born here, it is their home too.

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It's because one law can't govern 2 polities. In a conflict between 2 cultures, one side will win. We've all been taught to believe that liberalism resolves conflict by adopting a concept of freedom that avoids conflict altogether. Most people think this is what freedom is. You'll just let me do what I want and I'll not stop you from doing what you want. All this does is result in radical permissiveness and ultimately a shift in the culture.

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This is not true, no matter how many times people want to make it so. The idea is absurd on its face, it is not a law of nature, we do not have to accept it as if it were.

As for who to blame, I have no personal malice toward immigrants. That's why framing this as "omg u r so racis" is a pointless waste of time. It doesn't matter. It's not about them personally or even collectively. It is about us and our home.

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How is it not true if it's in the Constitution?

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It's the difference between house and home.

For many Indians, this is just a "land of opportunity." Its a completely transactional relationship, not one of true love. Even though they are US Citizens, their first instinct is to do what's best for India. The US is a house, not a home.

This attitude perseveres into the next generation too, which is distressing and depressing. I know a family member who grew up in California, goes to UCLA med school, and tells everyone in India that the US is a racist country. That kind of shi$ just pisses me off.

The parents came here, clearly excelled, and still bad mouth the country and people that gave them so much.

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Yeah, people like that (I've seen plenty of them from Mexico who believe Mexico is the greatest country yet still live here) piss me off to no end.

For them, they need to GTFO and make room for people who actually want to be Americans in every way possible only.

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This is not true, no matter how many times people want to make it so. The idea is absurd on its face, it is not a law of nature, we do not have to accept it as if it were.

As for who to blame, I have no personal malice toward immigrants. That's why framing this as "omg u r so racis" is a pointless waste of time. It doesn't matter. It's not about them personally or even collectively. It is about us and our home.

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How is it not true if it's in the Constitution?

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So then none of us born here are citizens?

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This is not true, no matter how many times people want to make it so. The idea is absurd on its face, it is not a law of nature, we do not have to accept it as if it were.

As for who to blame, I have no personal malice toward immigrants. That's why framing this as "omg u r so racis" is a pointless waste of time. It doesn't matter. It's not about them personally or even collectively. It is about us and our home.

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How is it not true if it's in the Constitution?

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You do realize this language isn't in the Constitution, don't you?

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So then none of us born here are citizens?

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They're citizens. The question is: should non-Americans be granted citizenship?

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This is not true, no matter how many times people want to make it so. The idea is absurd on its face, it is not a law of nature, we do not have to accept it as if it were.

As for who to blame, I have no personal malice toward immigrants. That's why framing this as "omg u r so racis" is a pointless waste of time. It doesn't matter. It's not about them personally or even collectively. It is about us and our home.

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I simply cannot wrap my head around this. I have never accepted people born here, to legal families, as anything less than American. I'm not talking illegal aliens, anchor babies, or birth tourism. They were born here, it is their home too.

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Nobody cares what you accept. People accept transgenders as the sex they claim to be. What matters is what is real.

H1Bs and other types of legal migrants are visitors here. Any children they have should also be considered visitors.

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This is not true, no matter how many times people want to make it so. The idea is absurd on its face, it is not a law of nature, we do not have to accept it as if it were.

As for who to blame, I have no personal malice toward immigrants. That's why framing this as "omg u r so racis" is a pointless waste of time. It doesn't matter. It's not about them personally or even collectively. It is about us and our home.

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How is it not true if it's in the Constitution?

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Birth on U.S. Soil (Jus Soli): Anyone born within the territory of the United States is automatically a citizen. This right is protected by the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution

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You do realize this language isn't in the Constitution, don't you?

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So then none of us born here are citizens?

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Weird argument. So either everybody born here is a citizen or nobody born here is a citizen based on your reading of the 14th amendment?

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Make the philosphical case for this. Not the legal case, we all realize the law is ******ed and calls anchor babies citizens.

Make the case for America being the home of anchor babies and children of guest legal migrants

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There was a time when olive skinned Italians were not accepted

Don't forget the Irish.

It's not always about skin color.

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Correct it was about religion. Greeks faced the same discrimination because like Italians and Irish they were not Protestants.

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There was a time when olive skinned Italians were not accepted

Don't forget the Irish.

It's not always about skin color.

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Correct it was about religion. Greeks faced the same discrimination because like Italians and Irish they were not Protestants.

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And then we shut off immigration, almost entirely for the next fifty years. They were all christian and relatively same romantic culture. They assimilated nicely.

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This is not true, no matter how many times people want to make it so. The idea is absurd on its face, it is not a law of nature, we do not have to accept it as if it were.

As for who to blame, I have no personal malice toward immigrants. That's why framing this as "omg u r so racis" is a pointless waste of time. It doesn't matter. It's not about them personally or even collectively. It is about us and our home.

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How is it not true if it's in the Constitution?

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Famous guy once said - "If the law supposes that, the law is an ass."

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This is not true, no matter how many times people want to make it so. The idea is absurd on its face, it is not a law of nature, we do not have to accept it as if it were.

As for who to blame, I have no personal malice toward immigrants. That's why framing this as "omg u r so racis" is a pointless waste of time. It doesn't matter. It's not about them personally or even collectively. It is about us and our home.

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I simply cannot wrap my head around this. I have never accepted people born here, to legal families, as anything less than American. I'm not talking illegal aliens, anchor babies, or birth tourism. They were born here, it is their home too.

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Sorry amigo, anchor babies and those born of birth tourists are citizens. Our friends want you to believe they're just as American as me or you. Or else you're racist.

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Here's the kicker: the students in that photo are Americans.
Two of them, Dhairya Gupta and Rahul Kodali, spoke to the Dallas Morning News and said the obvious thing, that they're US citizens and the post was blatantly racist. One of the students targeted has lived in Austin her whole life. And there's a detail about how Texas fills its public universities that matters as more than a point of education policy in this discussion.

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Maybe this was already shared. I wasn't aware that any of the students had spoken to media on record. Would link to DMN article, but I'm sure its paywalled.

I admire these students' courage to speak to media and go on record. Because now they have subjected themselves to threats I'm sure from racist crazies.

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Couldn't help himself.

he had Dhairya of the mouth.

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This is not true, no matter how many times people want to make it so. The idea is absurd on its face, it is not a law of nature, we do not have to accept it as if it were.

As for who to blame, I have no personal malice toward immigrants. That's why framing this as "omg u r so racis" is a pointless waste of time. It doesn't matter. It's not about them personally or even collectively. It is about us and our home.

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How is it not true if it's in the Constitution?

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You do realize this language isn't in the Constitution, don't you?

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So then none of us born here are citizens?

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Weird argument. So either everybody born here is a citizen or nobody born here is a citizen based on your reading of the 14th amendment?

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No, that's the question I am asking: if the language is not law, then how are any of us citizens?

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This is not true, no matter how many times people want to make it so. The idea is absurd on its face, it is not a law of nature, we do not have to accept it as if it were.

As for who to blame, I have no personal malice toward immigrants. That's why framing this as "omg u r so racis" is a pointless waste of time. It doesn't matter. It's not about them personally or even collectively. It is about us and our home.

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How is it not true if it's in the Constitution?

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You do realize this language isn't in the Constitution, don't you?

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They're citizens. The question is: should non-Americans be granted citizenship?

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Only if they go through the same things the rest of our ancestors did to become citizens. At least in my book.

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This is not true, no matter how many times people want to make it so. The idea is absurd on its face, it is not a law of nature, we do not have to accept it as if it were.

As for who to blame, I have no personal malice toward immigrants. That's why framing this as "omg u r so racis" is a pointless waste of time. It doesn't matter. It's not about them personally or even collectively. It is about us and our home.

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How is it not true if it's in the Constitution?

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You do realize this language isn't in the Constitution, don't you?

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Weird argument. So either everybody born here is a citizen or nobody born here is a citizen based on your reading of the 14th amendment?

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No, that's the question I am asking: if the language is not law, then how are any of us citizens?

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Are you asking how anybody was a citizen before ratification of the 14th amendment, nearly 100 years after the founding of the country?

The 14th amendment was meant to apply to freed slaves. It meant that freed slaves were to be considered citizens. It was never meant to apply to random migrants and illegal aliens. The writers/drafters of the amendment said as much at the time.

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This is not true, no matter how many times people want to make it so. The idea is absurd on its face, it is not a law of nature, we do not have to accept it as if it were.

As for who to blame, I have no personal malice toward immigrants. That's why framing this as "omg u r so racis" is a pointless waste of time. It doesn't matter. It's not about them personally or even collectively. It is about us and our home.

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How is it not true if it's in the Constitution?

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You do realize this language isn't in the Constitution, don't you?

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They're citizens. The question is: should non-Americans be granted citizenship?

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Only if they go through the same things the rest of our ancestors did to become citizens. At least in my book.

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Build the country from nothing and fight and die for it?

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Here's the kicker: the students in that photo are Americans.
Two of them, Dhairya Gupta and Rahul Kodali, spoke to the Dallas Morning News and said the obvious thing, that they're US citizens and the post was blatantly racist. One of the students targeted has lived in Austin her whole life. And there's a detail about how Texas fills its public universities that matters as more than a point of education policy in this discussion.

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Maybe this was already shared. I wasn't aware that any of the students had spoken to media on record. Would link to DMN article, but I'm sure its paywalled.

I admire these students' courage to speak to media and go on record. Because now they have subjected themselves to threats I'm sure from racist crazies.

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Nobody says they aren't citizens. The idiotic laws of our nation say the are citizens. We all understand that.

But they aren't Americans. They are Indians living in America.

You know how you can tell? Their names is a good start lol.

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This is not true, no matter how many times people want to make it so. The idea is absurd on its face, it is not a law of nature, we do not have to accept it as if it were.

As for who to blame, I have no personal malice toward immigrants. That's why framing this as "omg u r so racis" is a pointless waste of time. It doesn't matter. It's not about them personally or even collectively. It is about us and our home.

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How is it not true if it's in the Constitution?

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They're citizens. The question is: should non-Americans be granted citizenship?

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But our ancestors aren't Indians. My ancestors' entire formation for over 1000 years is contextualized by Western Christendom. They're not "going through the same things the rest of our ancestors did to become citizens." Not even a little bit.

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Here's the kicker: the students in that photo are Americans.
Two of them, Dhairya Gupta and Rahul Kodali, spoke to the Dallas Morning News and said the obvious thing, that they're US citizens and the post was blatantly racist. One of the students targeted has lived in Austin her whole life. And there's a detail about how Texas fills its public universities that matters as more than a point of education policy in this discussion.

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Maybe this was already shared. I wasn't aware that any of the students had spoken to media on record. Would link to DMN article, but I'm sure its paywalled.

I admire these students' courage to speak to media and go on record. Because now they have subjected themselves to threats I'm sure from racist crazies.

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Nobody says they aren't citizens. The idiotic laws of our nation say the are citizens. We all understand that.

But they aren't Americans. They are Indians living in America.

You know how you can tell? Their names is a good start lol.

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Funny how these non-Americans would not butcher the English grammar they learned in fourth grade.

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Look behind them. It's a load of white kids. But the 10 kids up front have everyone's attention.

They already came to the football game, but I guess they have to sprinkle in a few white people to avoid suspicion? Is that a rule for everyone or how does this work?

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Load of white kids behind them. LOL.

It's mass entertainment. I'd go to a large cricket match if I were in India. I'd go to a bull fighting match in Spain! I'd go to a large soccer match in England! To claim that as proof of assimilation is shallow, and I'm being very nice with my words.

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Are they really assimilated if their names are Dhairya Gupta and Rahul Kodali? No.

Do they believe in the One True God? We don't know, but it is statistically unlikely.

Is throwing milk really common at football games or is that something that is common in at Indian cricket matches?

Odds are those kids aren't assimilated. Don't even blame them for it. It's unnatural.

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Load of white kids behind them. LOL.

It's mass entertainment. I'd go to a large cricket match if I were in India. I'd go to a bull fighting match in Spain! I'd go to a large soccer match in England! To claim that as proof of assimilation is shallow, and I'm being very nice with my words.

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So what? The odds are that some of those kids are fully assimilated, post 1st generation Americans. That's the point. Indian people can have Indian friends. It just bothers some people to see them at all.

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Are they really assimilated if their names are Dhairya Gupta and Rahul Kodali? No.

Do they believe in the One True God? We don't know, but it is statistically unlikely.

Is throwing milk really common at football games or is that something that is common in at Indian cricket matches?

Odds are those kids aren't assimilated. Don't even blame them for it. It's unnatural.

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They already came to the football game, but I guess they have to sprinkle in a few white people to avoid suspicion? Is that a rule for everyone or how does this work?

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Load of white kids behind them. LOL.

It's mass entertainment. I'd go to a large cricket match if I were in India. I'd go to a bull fighting match in Spain! I'd go to a large soccer match in England! To claim that as proof of assimilation is shallow, and I'm being very nice with my words.

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So what? The odds are that some of those kids are fully assimilated, post 1st generation Americans. That's the point. Indian people can have Indian friends. It just bothers some people to see them at all.

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Are they really assimilated if their names are Dhairya Gupta and Rahul Kodali? No.

Do they believe in the One True God? We don't know, but it is statistically unlikely.

Is throwing milk really common at football games or is that something that is common in at Indian cricket matches?

Odds are those kids aren't assimilated. Don't even blame them for it. It's unnatural.

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I'm puzzled why so many people embrace the caricature that is associated with A&M. Is it a coping mechanism to disarm it by embracing it?

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Would you like to participate in the conversation, or are you just here to lob bombs from the peanut gallery?

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Are they really assimilated if their names are Dhairya Gupta and Rahul Kodali? No.

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Your name doesn't have to be John or David to be American. I know 3rd generation (and beyond) people of Hispanic, Indian and even Polish descent still using first and/or last family names from other parts of the world.

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Do they believe in the One True God? We don't know, but it is statistically unlikely.

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We didn't know a lot about these kids from a photograph, which is why this whole exercise in pretending the discussion was about illegal immigration was so stupid. I also doubt it, but the First Amendment says that there's no established religion here, so it doesn't really weigh in on if they're Americans.

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Is throwing milk really common at football games or is that something that is common in at Indian cricket matches?

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I don't know that it's a thing anywhere, but why it matters is beyond me. A very American person threw a beer at me during a metal concert a few years ago, but good thing it wasn't milk?


Really looks to me like a few people are just bothered that they saw a picture of some people watching a football game because they assume they aren't exactly like them.

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I don't know that it's a thing anywhere, but why it matters is beyond me.

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Of course you don't and of course it doesn't matter to you, because it destroys your assertion that they are assimilated. It's a common Hindu practice at Indian cricket matches.

Boomers will look you dead in the eye and assure you “Dhairya Gupta” is as American as Stephen Austin because he wore a burnt orange shirt at a football game. https://t.co/u3ZnaVuTGD

— BowTiedRanger (@BowTiedRanger) September 16, 2026

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a picture of 10 non-white kids celebrating at a football game (a clear sign of assimilation)

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A picture of 10 kids of various races celebrating at a football game would be a clear sign of assimilation.

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Look behind them. It's a load of white kids. But the 10 kids up front have everyone's attention.

They already came to the football game, but I guess they have to sprinkle in a few white people to avoid suspicion? Is that a rule for everyone or how does this work?

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Load of white kids behind them. LOL.

It's mass entertainment. I'd go to a large cricket match if I were in India. I'd go to a bull fighting match in Spain! I'd go to a large soccer match in England! To claim that as proof of assimilation is shallow, and I'm being very nice with my words.

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So what? The odds are that some of those kids are fully assimilated, post 1st generation Americans. That's the point. Indian people can have Indian friends. It just bothers some people to see them at all.

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Are they really assimilated if their names are Dhairya Gupta and Rahul Kodali? No.

Do they believe in the One True God? We don't know, but it is statistically unlikely.

Is throwing milk really common at football games or is that something that is common in at Indian cricket matches?

Odds are those kids aren't assimilated. Don't even blame them for it. It's unnatural.

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This must be trolling.

Do you have anything about it being a thing? Because the only milk tradition I know about is people drinking it at the Indy 500.

But it doesn't matter. There's a post above yours saying one of the guys lived in Austin his whole life, but since his name doesn't sound like yours, you're assuming you know everything about him and that it's bad because it isn't identical to you.

This isn't a discussion, it's just "forwarded email/X follow" uncles sounding off on whoever they don't like.