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No Spin Ag
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ATX_AG_08 said:

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I don't know what the ethnicity of the kids in those pictures are, but the Indian kids from my high school are totally American culturally and made it into Texas among other places because they were smart, had good grades in AP classes, worked hard and came from strong families that prioritized education. They ended up being...doctor, doctor, doctor, married to nationally renowned doctor (also Indian), Fortune 500 in finance, leadership of a very Texas-industry type company, PhD. I think half of them also married white people. They didn't cheat, they were just smart people from smart families. Not one bad neighbor, welfare case or America hater among them. They don't favor Indian culture because they've never or rarely even been there.

And now their kids are going to Texas as well because they've continued to prioritize education. I don't think anyone has any direct information that these kids wouldn't make it into Texas with a blind resume other than their resentful fantasies.

The student section in that picture looks about the same as it did when I had to sit there 20 years ago. When your opinions about immigration reform are triggered by seeing a photo of a handful of non-white kids watching a football game....are we really having the same conversation?


This is all well and fine, but you still haven't articulated why they're here and why we're obligated to take them.

There are good people all over the world. So are we under some obligation to import them all and immediately call them all Americans?

We have entire school districts, cities, etc completely overrun by foreigners in this country. You seriously see zero issues with that?

Look at Minnesota, look at parts of Dallas, etc. We have Somali gangs waring in Minneapolis. That's cool with you?

India has an entire subcontinent that's 99% Indian. Do you think if we were mass importing whites taking over cities and giving them political capital Indians would be okay with that?

Is there any limit to the number, or are we just supposed to take them indefinitely?

Those are questions that I'm sure the people Trump appointed or selected, Secretary of State (Rubio) and/or the Director of USCIS Joseph B. Edlow would be able to answer, because this is all now happening under their watch, and not much has changed from this administration and the last by the way the outrage is still going almost two years into this current administration.
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TrumpsBarber said:

Spergin said:



It's not just whites who feel this way. Go talk to any non-Indian and the opinions are all the same.

Literally every single nation on Earth now holds the same opinion of India. The Japanese, South Koreans, Chinese, Americans, Latin Americans, Europeans, South Africans, Australians. Literally every nation on Earth looks at them like this because they don't integrate, they bring their own culture here and recreate India wherever they move. They follow the exact same pattern everywhere.

I see posts written in foreign languages constantly complaining about Indians that are identical to what Americans say.

I have non-Indian family in New Zealand. The mass migration of Indians there has resulted in a major political revolt as it should. They are not assimilating at all. You can surf the internet and find them celebrating their heathen religion and customs in public all over the country while the citizens are being sold out by their government. Indian community celebrates India's 79th Independence Day across New Zealand | RNZ



You can even go to leftist hellhole Reddit and find nothing but antagonism to Indians. It's honestly incredible just how common the sentiment is to them.
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deddog said:

infinity ag said:

Hardcore Greg said:

deddog said:

infinity ag said:

deddog said:

Zobel said:

The thing is these questions are not new in democracies or republics. We just have some really stupid ideological priors influencing how people view the question (omg u r so racist) that's preventing us from 1) looking back at history to what has solved this before as our founding fathers did and 2) being rational about it.

Hence you get absurdities like someone born here to parents who immigrated illegally yesterday is "just as American as me or you". It isn't true on any level, and if it is you've just redefined "American" in such a way that is so broad as to be useless.

Illegal immigrants are by definition un-American. They broke a pretty big law to get into this country, consume resources that could and should be used to work with those immigrating legally.

The legal immigration process is long (and should be). But what is kinda disappointing in that process is that it doesn't really try to make sure your values and ethics line up with American values and ethics. If you want immigration to be successful, that is the #1 thing to be fixed. That and consistently denying anti-American folks.


But how would you test for values?
Most non Americans with whom I talk about such things, it is clear that they most of them view America as an economic zone for jobs and wealth. They even have US passports but their hearts are where they came from. This is dangerous.

Absolutely. 100%.

Anyone who has a green card for over 5 years and not applied for citizenship should have their green cards revoked.

You absolutely do need to check social media. Anybody with anti-American posts should never get a Visa of any kind (and i don't care who the President is, you respect the office, not the person).

And you have to be able to speak English.

This. I also am tired of always catering to either Muslims or Jews...or giving them so much of our attention. We should be emphasizing focus on Christians. Christians from India, Christians from Nigeria, Christians from South America etc etc. Preferably young families.

As it is now, we don;t even really vet people. What good is diversity if it is a hindrance to unity? We start focusing on Christians and we will become more united and prove that racial diversity can work in the long haul, as long as you have the same priorities, visions and goals.


So you want to discriminate on the basis of religion.

I don't think deddog agrees with you on this. Could you please clarify, deddog?

I don't agree either.

Don't think that just being Christian will bring forth Utopia that you desire.

BTW, there are several Indian Christians who use America like a hoar for their personal needs. Like Francisco D'Souza, the ex CEO of COGNIZANT. He is the one who needs to be imprisoned, not the new guy Ravi Kumar who might get into trouble.


"Importing" intelligent people with Christian values is the best way to ensure America survives as a nation.
conversely, there is zero reason to allow folks with non-Christian values into the country. Rules out Islamic countries like Somalia and a majority of the muslim world.

I am biased (b/c of my own background) but I don't think you have to be Christian.
Love America unconditionally + Christian values = recipe for success


This...I don't even think the following is saying that everyone has to be a practicing Christian or go to church every sunday. Just that we need to have an understood, cohesive set of moral and ethical standards. We are the way we are because of this. It is why we are the greatest country and basically a life raft to the world.

Any atheist who laments the judeo-christian backbone of this country, is an ungrateful beneficiary of said judeo-christian backbone...I don't care if it's a fruity white liberal atheist or a Hindu from India. Just say thank you and fall in line as best you can. You don't have to start going to church, just don't bring the bad traits from your culture over here is pretty much all. ASSIMILATE.

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Hardcore Greg
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ATX_AG_08 said:















Infinity Ag, when you ask for examples of Christian behavior...a lot of this is NOT it. Again, it's a cultural thing. Most white Christians, or Christians in general, are not lining up in carts for disabled people so they can skip everyone else in line. But i have seen enough to know that this kind of stuff isn't frowned upon in India. I would be overhwlmed with a sense of shame at the idea of doing that.

We also don't litter like that in general. I have seen images of some of the major rivers and waterways in India. I cannot imagine that here even in the worst parts of the country.
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ATX_AG_08 said:

Lance Uppercut said:

I don't know what the ethnicity of the kids in those pictures are, but the Indian kids from my high school are totally American culturally and made it into Texas among other places because they were smart, had good grades in AP classes, worked hard and came from strong families that prioritized education. They ended up being...doctor, doctor, doctor, married to nationally renowned doctor (also Indian), Fortune 500 in finance, leadership of a very Texas-industry type company, PhD. I think half of them also married white people. They didn't cheat, they were just smart people from smart families. Not one bad neighbor, welfare case or America hater among them. They don't favor Indian culture because they've never or rarely even been there.

And now their kids are going to Texas as well because they've continued to prioritize education. I don't think anyone has any direct information that these kids wouldn't make it into Texas with a blind resume other than their resentful fantasies.

The student section in that picture looks about the same as it did when I had to sit there 20 years ago. When your opinions about immigration reform are triggered by seeing a photo of a handful of non-white kids watching a football game....are we really having the same conversation?


This is all well and fine, but you still haven't articulated why they're here and why we're obligated to take them.

There are good people all over the world. So are we under some obligation to import them all and immediately call them all Americans?

We have entire school districts, cities, etc completely overrun by foreigners in this country. You seriously see zero issues with that?

Look at Minnesota, look at parts of Dallas, etc. We have Somali gangs waring in Minneapolis. That's cool with you?

India has an entire subcontinent that's 99% Indian. Do you think if we were mass importing whites taking over cities and giving them political capital Indians would be okay with that?

Is there any limit to the number, or are we just supposed to take them indefinitely?


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This is all well and fine, but you still haven't articulated why they're here and why we're obligated to take them


The people I know were here because their parents were highly educated college professors and oncologists. They're the exact people you should want to immigrate to the United States, and their kids are model 2nd generation citizens.

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There are good people all over the world. So are we under some obligation to import them all and immediately call them all Americans?


Not at all. Did I say that?

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Is there any limit to the number, or are we just supposed to take them indefinitely?


Immigration should be tightly controlled and candidates thoroughly vetted to confirm that the applicants are a good fit for American society. Has anyone on here advocated otherwise?

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Look at Minnesota, look at parts of Dallas, etc. We have Somali gangs waring in Minneapolis. That's cool with you?


Are we moving on from Indians to Somalians now? Because I didn't even see that we were talking about Somalia. Anyone participating in that kind of violence should be arrested and punished. These aren't some kind of difficult 'gotcha's.

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India has an entire subcontinent that's 99% Indian. Do you think if we were mass importing whites taking over cities and giving them political capital Indians would be okay with that?


Nope, but I thought everyone here was piling on about how we didn't want to be anything like India.


My issue is that people have seen a picture of 10 non-white kids celebrating at a football game (a clear sign of assimilation) and used it to springboard into a broader overall rant against an entire race without possibly knowing anything about the individuals pictured. I think it's fairly ignorant, because those people could have been people I knew 20 years ago or kids of the same people....and those aren't people littering in rivers or whatever else everyone's uncle sent them on Facebook.

It's ridiculous to to assume any support for successful immigration stories means you're some open-borders, no rules liberal
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a picture of 10 non-white kids celebrating at a football game (a clear sign of assimilation)


A picture of 10 kids of various races celebrating at a football game would be a clear sign of assimilation.
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Logos Stick said:

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a picture of 10 non-white kids celebrating at a football game (a clear sign of assimilation)


A picture of 10 kids of various races celebrating at a football game would be a clear sign of assimilation.


Look behind them. It's a load of white kids. But the 10 kids up front have everyone's attention.

They already came to the football game, but I guess they have to sprinkle in a few white people to avoid suspicion? Is that a rule for everyone or how does this work?
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Lance Uppercut said:

Logos Stick said:

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a picture of 10 non-white kids celebrating at a football game (a clear sign of assimilation)


A picture of 10 kids of various races celebrating at a football game would be a clear sign of assimilation.


Look behind them. It's a load of white kids. But the 10 kids up front have everyone's attention.

They already came to the football game, but I guess they have to sprinkle in a few white people to avoid suspicion? Is that a rule for everyone or how does this work?



Load of white kids behind them. LOL. yes, there were white kids at the game near them.

It's mass entertainment. I'd go to a large cricket match if I were in India. I'd go to a bull fighting match in Spain! I'd go to a large soccer match in England! To claim that as proof of assimilation is shallow, and I'm being very nice with my words.
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Logos Stick said:

Lance Uppercut said:

Logos Stick said:

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a picture of 10 non-white kids celebrating at a football game (a clear sign of assimilation)


A picture of 10 kids of various races celebrating at a football game would be a clear sign of assimilation.


Look behind them. It's a load of white kids. But the 10 kids up front have everyone's attention.

They already came to the football game, but I guess they have to sprinkle in a few white people to avoid suspicion? Is that a rule for everyone or how does this work?



Load of white kids behind them. LOL.

It's mass entertainment. I'd go to a large cricket match if I were in India. I'd go to a bull fighting match in Spain! I'd go to a large soccer match in England! To claim that as proof of assimilation is shallow, and I'm being very nice with my words.


So what? The odds are that some of those kids are fully assimilated, post 1st generation Americans. That's the point. Indian people can have Indian friends. It just bothers some people to see them at all.
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Logos Stick said:

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a picture of 10 non-white kids celebrating at a football game (a clear sign of assimilation)


A picture of 10 kids of various races celebrating at a football game would be a clear sign of assimilation.


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Lance Uppercut said:

Logos Stick said:

Lance Uppercut said:

Logos Stick said:

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a picture of 10 non-white kids celebrating at a football game (a clear sign of assimilation)


A picture of 10 kids of various races celebrating at a football game would be a clear sign of assimilation.


Look behind them. It's a load of white kids. But the 10 kids up front have everyone's attention.

They already came to the football game, but I guess they have to sprinkle in a few white people to avoid suspicion? Is that a rule for everyone or how does this work?



Load of white kids behind them. LOL.

It's mass entertainment. I'd go to a large cricket match if I were in India. I'd go to a bull fighting match in Spain! I'd go to a large soccer match in England! To claim that as proof of assimilation is shallow, and I'm being very nice with my words.


So what? The odds are that some of those kids are fully assimilated, post 1st generation Americans. That's the point. Indian people can have Indian friends. It just bothers people to see them for "some reason".



Perhaps.... but the fact that they are at a sip football game is not proof of anything!
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Lance Uppercut said:

Logos Stick said:

Lance Uppercut said:

Logos Stick said:

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a picture of 10 non-white kids celebrating at a football game (a clear sign of assimilation)


A picture of 10 kids of various races celebrating at a football game would be a clear sign of assimilation.


Look behind them. It's a load of white kids. But the 10 kids up front have everyone's attention.

They already came to the football game, but I guess they have to sprinkle in a few white people to avoid suspicion? Is that a rule for everyone or how does this work?



Load of white kids behind them. LOL.

It's mass entertainment. I'd go to a large cricket match if I were in India. I'd go to a bull fighting match in Spain! I'd go to a large soccer match in England! To claim that as proof of assimilation is shallow, and I'm being very nice with my words.


So what? The odds are that some of those kids are fully assimilated, post 1st generation Americans. That's the point. Indian people can have Indian friends. It just bothers some people to see them at all.

You know what bothers me? That elephant thing they worship with all those human arms. Really creeps me out.
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Imagine immigrating to a new country and then acting as a radical instigator in their political system. The nerve of these people.













And who even knows if they're really "credentialed".

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Well.....bye!
ATX_AG_08
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Is that you, Pooja?
BigRobSA
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Being that I said "Bye" to the terrorists?

PROBABLY not that Pooja person.

You come here and then protest the "here" aspect of it. Kiss our collective butts and take your beechass back to 3rdworldistan.
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Sorry….should have put a wink face.
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Lance Uppercut said:

Logos Stick said:

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a picture of 10 non-white kids celebrating at a football game (a clear sign of assimilation)


A picture of 10 kids of various races celebrating at a football game would be a clear sign of assimilation.


Look behind them. It's a load of white kids. But the 10 kids up front have everyone's attention.

They already came to the football game, but I guess they have to sprinkle in a few white people to avoid suspicion? Is that a rule for everyone or how does this work?



It's "loads of white kids" at a school that's 29% white?
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Farmer_J said:

"Legal immigration" is meaningless




FYI, Practically this is a miniscule (to the extent of being non-existent) percentage.
If you are on an H1B, its highly unlikely you have college age kids.
And if they are over 18, they need their own visa. Partly because H1s are a cost cutting measure, and its cheaper to hire younger engineers. And they form the bulk of the H1s.

In my 30 years in the industry, i have never seen this situation.

Its FAR more likely that if you have an indian origin student at a college, their parents are naturalized US citizens, or Green card holders
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japantiger said:

Indian population in the US has doubled since 2010 (census data)...it is roughly 2/3 immigrant (which is H1B driven) vs 1/3 native born. H1B is driving the rapid increase in the Indian population.

Fraud in the H1B program has been rampant. The whole system had to be redesigned and was not changed until 2024; and then had to be redesigned again in 2025. No one debates the existence of large-scale staffing-firms and lottery fraud/abuse from India; they just haggle over the percentage. Auditing stopped back in 2008 when the best audit numbers had it at 21%; vs consular officers pegging it at 90%. It's convenient that they stopped auditing it isn't it. Also keep in mind, H1B was supposed to be for talent that cannot be had in the US organically...not run of the mill IT jobs.

College entrance testing fraud - well, India is the world champ on forged documents related to college entrance. Millions of cases each year are caught inside India; it's institutional. If not caught and prosecuted in India (most are not prosecuted), then India is #4 in terms of cases of documented SAT fraud (behind China, Nigeria, S Korea). There are millions trying to get into US colleges from India, much larger than any other country.

Now, taking all these factors into account, seeing a disproportionate representation it seems only natural to ask the question; how did this happen?

Is it racist to point out that the most likely route for these "students" was 1) institutional, at scale, visa fraud by their parents; and 2) their resulting birth-right citizenship. Is it racist to ask if their test scores are valid, when the majority of Indian test scores are not valid at the institutional level (millions each year caught in India before even getting to the US)? I don't personally find asking these questions racist. They're certainly smoke. They're just questions.

See, this is what happens when you open US "formerly high trust" institutions to places that have no experience with that type of system. Cheating the institution is a cultural norm in China, India, etc. Rules bind the other guy; not me and my clan. Getting caught is a cost of doing business; not a career ender. The rules are simply an obstacle. There's quite a lot of academic work on this by the way (and we know academia isn't racist don't we?); in addition to the personal experiences of anyone that has actually lived or worked in those environments. I never imagined some of the controls that were required in my businesses in those markets vs the US.






Thanks to ATX_AG_08 for posting Exhibit A for what I describe above.


Also, can we all stop pretending this very specific issue around the UT game is happening in a vacuum. We've had 20m illegals from every **** hole in the world jammed down our damn throats by the prior admin, while lying to us about a secure border; all the while telling us "diversity is our strength"; while these ****ers loot our treasury. H1Bs were supposed to be for talent we can't grow organically domestically. That should require a fraction or a fraction of the H1Bs and the collateral visa's that have gone with that.

If it were up to me, I'd cancel every H1B tomorrow and send everyone of them home (while we back C5's up to bus terminals as we deport the other 20m). At the same time, anyone that has gotten a green-card that started on an H1B I'd send home due the the high likelihood of fraud having been involved. If one of their anchor babies was in the Stadium on Saturday, they can stay or go. Their adults, their call. But let's stop pretending pointing this out is shocking or racist. It comes from being force-fed bull**** by the DC establishment and being told to like it and having entire communities rendered unrecognizable in less than two decades.
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Logos Stick said:

Lance Uppercut said:

Logos Stick said:

Lance Uppercut said:

Logos Stick said:

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a picture of 10 non-white kids celebrating at a football game (a clear sign of assimilation)


A picture of 10 kids of various races celebrating at a football game would be a clear sign of assimilation.


Look behind them. It's a load of white kids. But the 10 kids up front have everyone's attention.

They already came to the football game, but I guess they have to sprinkle in a few white people to avoid suspicion? Is that a rule for everyone or how does this work?



Load of white kids behind them. LOL.

It's mass entertainment. I'd go to a large cricket match if I were in India. I'd go to a bull fighting match in Spain! I'd go to a large soccer match in England! To claim that as proof of assimilation is shallow, and I'm being very nice with my words.


So what? The odds are that some of those kids are fully assimilated, post 1st generation Americans. That's the point. Indian people can have Indian friends. It just bothers people to see them for "some reason".



Perhaps.... but the fact that they are at a sip football game is not proof of anything!

True. It's not like everyone there who was a student was wearing their student ID on their shirt or whatever, but let's be honest: even if proof were shown that every one of those individuals was not only a student, but also born and raised Texan (which we all know is much better than just being born American), there would still be more than enough people still raging on this same pic.

Some, for valid non-feelz reasons, and some for reasons that have nothing to do with the valid ones, though those individuals would veil their views with others' actual valid reasons.
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A person doesn't need to have a reason to not want the demographics and culture of their homeland to radically change.

The entire framework of valid and invalid is hand waving. ANY reason is ok, because it is their home.

The American people did not vote for this!
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Judging by the outcry about this topic the people pointing these wrongs out are clearly over a target. A target that leads to money being funneled to politicians, lobbyists, and lawyers via H1B & illegal immigration scams.
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No Spin Ag
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Zobel said:

A person doesn't need to have a reason to not want the demographics and culture of their homeland to radically change.

The entire framework of valid and invalid is hand waving. ANY reason is ok, because it is their home.

The American people did not vote for this!

All reasons are okay, sure. And for this, I appreciate the honesty.

You all do know that the minute they were born here, this was as much their home as yours, right?

I agree that the American people didn't vote for Tech Bros like Elon to use H1Bs to bring over as many people from other countries to give him and others cheap labor, which is why the rage should be aimed at the Elons and the politicians he and other bought to bring them over. It's the ones bringing htme over that are the cause of the problem, not the ones looking to make the best life possible by assimilating in this country.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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The comments lol

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deddog said:

Farmer_J said:

"Legal immigration" is meaningless




FYI, Practically this is a miniscule (to the extent of being non-existent) percentage.
If you are on an H1B, its highly unlikely you have college age kids.
And if they are over 18, they need their own visa. Partly because H1s are a cost cutting measure, and its cheaper to hire younger engineers. And they form the bulk of the H1s.

In my 30 years in the industry, i have never seen this situation.

Its FAR more likely that if you have an indian origin student at a college, their parents are naturalized US citizens, or Green card holders

Most of them, especially with graduate degrees in tech, undoubtedly started with H-1Bs. Been common for the 30+ years I have worked in telecom. They bought new cars, houses, and started families just like any other recent college graduate after landing their first job. An H-1B almost always became a green card until recently.
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You all do know that the minute they were born here, this was as much their home as yours, right?

This is not true, no matter how many times people want to make it so. The idea is absurd on its face, it is not a law of nature, we do not have to accept it as if it were.

As for who to blame, I have no personal malice toward immigrants. That's why framing this as "omg u r so racis" is a pointless waste of time. It doesn't matter. It's not about them personally or even collectively. It is about us and our home.
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No Spin Ag said:

Zobel said:

A person doesn't need to have a reason to not want the demographics and culture of their homeland to radically change.

The entire framework of valid and invalid is hand waving. ANY reason is ok, because it is their home.

The American people did not vote for this!

All reasons are okay, sure. And for this, I appreciate the honesty.

You all do know that the minute they were born here, this was as much their home as yours, right?

I agree that the American people didn't vote for Tech Bros like Elon to use H1Bs to bring over as many people from other countries to give him and others cheap labor, which is why the rage should be aimed at the Elons and the politicians he and other bought to bring them over. It's the ones bringing htme over that are the cause of the problem, not the ones looking to make the best life possible by assimilating in this country.


Let's not pretend people who come here under unethical / illegal (h1b) pretenses have some right to stay or are above criticism. I don't believe they are completely ignorant about the h1b abuse, but it wouldn't matter even if they were. The kids in the photo are probably citizens and unfortunately caught up in the criticism that should really be directed at their parents and parents employers.
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So you think in two years Trump should've fixed all the bull**** from four years of Biden? All the while fighting liberal Obama judges thwarting him at every turn?
If you don't have anything nice to say about anybody, come sit by me.
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torrid said:

deddog said:

Farmer_J said:

"Legal immigration" is meaningless




FYI, Practically this is a miniscule (to the extent of being non-existent) percentage.
If you are on an H1B, its highly unlikely you have college age kids.
And if they are over 18, they need their own visa. Partly because H1s are a cost cutting measure, and its cheaper to hire younger engineers. And they form the bulk of the H1s.

In my 30 years in the industry, i have never seen this situation.

Its FAR more likely that if you have an indian origin student at a college, their parents are naturalized US citizens, or Green card holders

Most of them, especially with graduate degrees in tech, undoubtedly started with H-1Bs. Been common for the 30+ years I have worked in telecom. They bought new cars, houses, and started families just like any other recent college graduate after landing their first job. An H-1B almost always became a green card until recently.

Absolutely, I started that way as well.
Fell In Love with America (3rd grade) --> H1B--> Green Card --> US Citizenship

My point is that if you see undergrad students at a University, their parents are not H1B holders, perhaps GC holders, but more than likely naturalized US citizens.

And Dinesh Dsouza is on point
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Exactly. Those same people would say these people are Texans.


No Spin Ag
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annie88 said:

So you think in two years Trump should've fixed all the bull**** from four years of Biden? All the while fighting liberal Obama judges thwarting him at every turn?

No, but I do think more can be done.

Trump has done more than others, for sure, but I think that he should do more than he has. I wish he would. Now, if there's nothing else he can do, well that sucks and we're all out of luck.

Anyway, we've got way too many American graduates having to settle for jobs they didn't even go to school for because H1Bs are sitting in jobs our kids should have.
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There was a time when olive skinned Italians were not accepted

Don't forget the Irish.

It's not always about skin color.
If you don't have anything nice to say about anybody, come sit by me.
 
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