Sorry I see this was already answered.

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So after reading some comments on this thread. My question is are WASPs the only real Americans?

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"Real"?

No there are a lot of American citizens from all sorts of ethnicities.

Not all American citizens are ethnically American. Not all ethnic American heredity is Anglo Saxon, but it's a significant source. American as an ethnicity is a mixture of Europeans, just like English as an ethnicity was a mixture.

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Yeah obviously we should not allow foreigners in to our universities.

And I have a problem with the entire demographic shift of our country, which has played itself out in our universities as evidenced by the picture in the OP.

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Foreign scientists who came to American saved potentially millions of lives in WWII, countless American soldiers lived because they came to the US.

That's just one example. One that you might be able to relate to (i.e. someone who used technology to kill).

But there are a million of other feel-good examples. Where foreigners came to study and work in the US, in US universities and made things much better for everyone in America.

BUT.....if you really feel strongly about it. Why not make one large research school the first example. Maybe one that is in B/CS. Ban all international students and faculty. And then see what happens to the university. Then everyone else can see what happens when you do this.

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But what about dog scientists?

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shiftyandquick said:

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For you Christian nationalists, who say that America is only for Christians (which is dumb and evil)....did you know that there is a long-lived population of Indian Christians in India? That's why many have Christian names.

Now you know.

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Jesus says that heaven is only for Christians. Is he dumb and evil too?

In India, Indian Christians face violence, intimidation, legal harassment, and social pressure. That's why there are so few. "Many have Christian names"?! LOL,no.

Now you know.

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The local Hindus do not like this as it causes demography changes much like we are upset with Indians taking over Dallas, Austin and Houston and parts of Detroit.

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Can you expound on this? Are there millions of whiteys flooding India and trying to convert them? Or even tens of thousands? How are a few missionaries trying to convert some Indians even remotely close to the scale of the rapind demographic changes happening here?

Are there entire towns in India being overrun by monster truck driving, rock n roll playing whites or large groups of whites erecting big crosses and voting at the local government level to cater primarily to them???

LOL funny to imagine. But genuinely curious as to what you mean.

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The issues are different in both countries.

The Hindus of India have problems with Muslims from Bangladesh and some other surrounding countries coming in illegally taking up jobs and causing trouble. There is no whitey issue as whities don't go there in large numbers, there maybe some who go for spiritual purposes but the numbers are negligible.

In the US, the issue is different. Indians are coming in mostly legally (H1B and L1 visa) and some illegally. They economically conquering us. The Muslims in Detroit want to invade religiously.

So this not a race issue in India like it is here.

But there is a HUGE problem with American missionaries working to convert India like in southern india and punjab. Read up on that. The Governor of one of the southern states is a Christian called Joseph.,

Spergin said:

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UPDATE: Bo French retakes the lead over Jon Rosenthal in the Texas Railroad Commissioner odds https://t.co/evZcvYbzcv pic.twitter.com/3H51NLi1Oj

— Kalshi Politics (@KalshiPolitics) September 13, 2026

Looks like it's working out well for French and bad for the RINOs.

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Update;

TEXAS RAILROAD COMMISSIONER ODDS:

🟦 Jon Rosenthal: 52%
🟥 Bo French: 48% pic.twitter.com/VY3Q31rz28

— Kalshi Politics (@KalshiPolitics) September 16, 2026

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a picture of 10 non-white kids celebrating at a football game (a clear sign of assimilation)

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A picture of 10 kids of various races celebrating at a football game would be a clear sign of assimilation.

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Look behind them. It's a load of white kids. But the 10 kids up front have everyone's attention.

They already came to the football game, but I guess they have to sprinkle in a few white people to avoid suspicion? Is that a rule for everyone or how does this work?

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Load of white kids behind them. LOL.

It's mass entertainment. I'd go to a large cricket match if I were in India. I'd go to a bull fighting match in Spain! I'd go to a large soccer match in England! To claim that as proof of assimilation is shallow, and I'm being very nice with my words.

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So what? The odds are that some of those kids are fully assimilated, post 1st generation Americans. That's the point. Indian people can have Indian friends. It just bothers some people to see them at all.

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Are they really assimilated if their names are Dhairya Gupta and Rahul Kodali? No.

Do they believe in the One True God? We don't know, but it is statistically unlikely.

Is throwing milk really common at football games or is that something that is common in at Indian cricket matches?

Odds are those kids aren't assimilated. Don't even blame them for it. It's unnatural.

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I'm puzzled why so many people embrace the caricature that is associated with A&M. Is it a coping mechanism to disarm it by embracing it?

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Would you like to participate in the conversation, or are you just here to lob bombs from the peanut gallery?

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I've participated, but I don't have a response to the argument that claims a person's name impacts whether they are American or not. I guess you win this one?
Congrats!

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What about Muhammad? Would you rather your kid be in classroom full of Muhammad's or smith's.

If you answer that, you're racist.

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As long as they learn the correct way to pluralize a proper noun, I'm good either way.

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If the money's right politicians will shill for anything

Including selling their state out

This would have been much more entertaining if Bo French had blasted Koreans and shown a picture of Jonny Kim as his example. I mean, Mr. Kim did take up room as a Navy Seal, Astronaut and Harvard Medical School graduate.

I'd love to see a friendly, in person, chat between French and Kim on the topic French raised (immigrant's US born children attending US colleges). I think it would end rather predictably, but it'd still be interesting to see their respective points when brought to a personal level rather than a screen grab of random kids.

While not a true American according to some definitions on this thread, the dude still seems to be a true patriot, intelligent as heck, hard working and someone I'd be proud to call a fellow American (I'm taking about Kim btw, not French). The only downside is that he makes about 99.9% of the world look like complete slackers haha.

My bad, I had you confused with Hardcore Greg: https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3623336/replies/72869121

Nonetheless, his post shows exactly the inconsistency in the definition I mentioned. You both agree that ancestry matter, but you draw the line in completely different places. You treat Frontier ancestry as the cutoff, while he treats being American as a spectrum based on tenure and assimilation. That's why I'm skeptical that there's some objective line for who is "ethnically American."

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I'd love to see a friendly, in person, chat between French and Kim on the topic French raised (immigrant's US born children attending US colleges). I think it would end rather predictably, but it'd still be interesting to see their respective points when brought to a personal level rather than a screen grab of random kids.

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The problem is you and 90% of the country don't understand the issue with the picture. The picture is a metaphor. The problem isn't with individuals. Nobody hates those kids in the picture (before they started talking to media).

It's with the demographics of our country shifting so drastically and in such a short time period without the permission/consent of the inhabitants.

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I'd love to see a friendly, in person, chat between French and Kim on the topic French raised (immigrant's US born children attending US colleges). I think it would end rather predictably, but it'd still be interesting to see their respective points when brought to a personal level rather than a screen grab of random kids.

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The problem is you and 90% of the country don't understand the issue with the picture. The picture is a metaphor. The problem isn't with individuals. Nobody hates those kids in the picture (before they started talking to media).

It's with the demographics of our country shifting so drastically and in such a short time period without the permission/consent of the inhabitants.

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If that was his intent, he could have used a graph, a trendline, a zoomed out picture, etc. This would have conveyed the issue at a macro level.

But he opted not to, and instead showed an up-close picture of a handful of kids that he assumed were here either illegally, or on visa's, etc. You said it wasn't about the individuals, but yet he posted something that clearly showed them as individuals. And he should have known that image searches are extremely easy and that they'd probably be contacted by the media.

I don't disagree with the concept of limiting immigration. But I think his use of the picture was a real bonehead move.

And as far as the Jonny Kim comment, I was partly mentioning because a number of folks on here were asserting that the children of legal immigrants aren't true Americans (so it was kind of off on a different topic). But I still think it would be more compelling to see people actually discuss issues rather than just trying to zing each other on X or Facebook or TexAgs. I don't think in the history of TexAgs, a single person has ever changed their mind on ANY topic haha.

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I'd love to see a friendly, in person, chat between French and Kim on the topic French raised (immigrant's US born children attending US colleges). I think it would end rather predictably, but it'd still be interesting to see their respective points when brought to a personal level rather than a screen grab of random kids.

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The problem is you and 90% of the country don't understand the issue with the picture. The picture is a metaphor. The problem isn't with individuals. Nobody hates those kids in the picture (before they started talking to media).

It's with the demographics of our country shifting so drastically and in such a short time period without the permission/consent of the inhabitants.

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But he opted not to, and instead showed an up-close picture of a handful of kids that he assumed were here either illegally, or on visa's, etc. You said it wasn't about the individuals, but yet he posted something that clearly showed them as individuals.

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I don't think he ever said or implied "illegally" or "on visas." You inferred it for no reason.

Every picture has individuals in it lol. We aren't allowed to look at a picture that very clearly and obviously represents the demographic replacement of Americans because there are individuals in it?

I edited my comment, but you were probably responding.

For me, saying 'it's not about the individuals' and then clearly showing a picture of a small group of identifiable individuals is just not congruent.

I don't know why a picture was needed at all. A graph, trend line, analysis, etc. would have spoken to me FAR more than a random picture which seemed to heavily imply that they did not belong (I'll admit that I don't think he said illegal, Visa, etc. either....).

Also, if he was going to show a picture, that seems like he could have selected a million other pictures that illustrated his point more effectively.

The thing that makes me angriest when I see that picture is seeing happy longhorns. Immigration must be handled effectively. But we must NEVER have any happy longhorns of any ethnicity. Maybe we should just deport longhorn fans.

Why did he use a picture? Because a giant group of Indians at a football game does a really good job of making the point.

And he wasn't the first to notice it. The camera shots were being widely discussed on far right twitter during and immediately after the game. He reposted a picture that had been in circulation for a long time already.

Pretty big own-goal, though.

Went from somebody no one really knew anything about to someone a lot of people have opinions either way about.

If you are in analytics you have to be thinking, how many votes did that tweet him gain v. lose? I guess we will see.

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Pretty big own-goal, though.

Went from somebody no one really knew anything about to someone a lot of people have opinions either way about.

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Our country is being overrun by foreigners but we aren't allowed to talk about it because some people will get their panties in a wad?

Ok. Total transparency here. I also saw that picture flash by repeatedly during the broadcast and thought to myself "man, that's a lot of Indian dudes there."

But if I were running for a big political position and also worth $$$ of money, I probably would have used a different media engagement strategy.

Or I would have changed my name to Bo America. It sounds silly to have a guy named "French" to be taking issues with immigration (that's a joke).

All kidding aside, if he's not already a billionaire via his trust fund / inheritance, this may be just the thing he needs to put him over the top, so it may work out to be a great move for him when it's all said and done.

Exactly the problem with republicans. They're too concerned with winning elections rather than saving America.

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Why did he use a picture? Because a giant group of Indians at a football game does a really good job of making the point.

And he wasn't the first to notice it. The camera shots were being widely discussed on far right twitter during and immediately after the game. He reposted a picture that had been in circulation for a long time already.

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The problem is those arent Indians, they're Americans. Their parents and grandparents were Indians. The kids in the photo are indistinguishable from white American college students in every way but skin color.

This idea that that picture is filled with a bunch of F1s who barely speak English is just wrong. And using that as the launching point for the argument that we need to limit future immigration, which i agree with, is silly. Those kids are from families that have been here for 2-3 generations in many cases, and they are/will be highly productive and law abiding members of society that offer real financial value.

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I'd love to see a friendly, in person, chat between French and Kim on the topic French raised (immigrant's US born children attending US colleges). I think it would end rather predictably, but it'd still be interesting to see their respective points when brought to a personal level rather than a screen grab of random kids.

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The problem is you and 90% of the country don't understand the issue with the picture. The picture is a metaphor. The problem isn't with individuals. Nobody hates those kids in the picture (before they started talking to media).

It's with the demographics of our country shifting so drastically and in such a short time period without the permission/consent of the inhabitants.

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But he opted not to, and instead showed an up-close picture of a handful of kids that he assumed were here either illegally, or on visa's, etc. You said it wasn't about the individuals, but yet he posted something that clearly showed them as individuals.

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I don't think he ever said or implied "illegally" or "on visas." You inferred it for no reason.

Every picture has individuals in it lol. We aren't allowed to look at a picture that very clearly and obviously represents the demographic replacement of Americans because there are individuals in it?

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What is an American to you? Because those kids are citizens and are completely and totally assimilated into American culture. They're drunk at a college football game wearing cowboy hats and boots. English is their first and usually only language. They listen to and watch exclusively American/western music, TV shows and movies. They're going to marry Americans of many other skin colors in many cases. Who exactly are they replacing? White/black/hispanics people who they are otherwise indistinguishable from?

Maybe read the rest of the thread if you want to see how that has been responded to several dozen times.

They're Indians. You can tell because they're Indian.

Yeah Dhairya Gupta is indistinguishable from John Smith. Basically the same in every way.

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Maybe read the rest of the thread if you want to see how that has been responded to several dozen times.

They're Indians. You can tell because they're Indian.

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They're as Indian as Tom Segura is Peruvian, Dave Matthews is South African, BD Wong is Chinese, Edward James Olmos is Mexican, etc. This is stupid. They're born and raised in America, speak English as their first and often only language, and are culturally indistinguishable from any other born and bred American.

Your logic quickly becomes absurd once you take it to its inevitable end and we end up having to label Lebron James Nigerian.

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Yeah Dhairya Gupta is indistinguishable from John Smith. Basically the same in every way.

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So we've arrived at the crux of the issue: Your definition of an American includes specifically and exclusively those Americans of white European descent. And, I assume, distant descent so as to exclude any uniquely European cultural or language norms that have not been retained here.

And that's fine, but just say it. Don't play these silly games. Own the opinion. I'm not going to argue with you if that's your ideal vision of American. I'll only point out the nature of the discussion is telling.

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Exactly the problem with republicans. They're too concerned with winning elections rather than saving America.

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and the problem with democrats is they are willing to flood this country with the world's trash to bankrupt the US and keep Democrats in power indefinitely.

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Yeah Dhairya Gupta is indistinguishable from John Smith. Basically the same in every way.

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So we've arrived at the crux of the issue: Your definition of an American includes specifically and exclusively those Americans of white European descent. And, I assume, distant descent so as to exclude any uniquely European cultural or language norms that have not been retained her.

And that's fine, but just say it. Don't play these silly games. Own the opinion.

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It's all in the open in the rest of the thread that you apparently refuse to read.

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Exactly the problem with republicans. They're too concerned with winning elections rather than saving America.

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and the problem with democrats is they are willing to flood this country with the world's trash to bankrupt the US and keep Democrats in power indefinitely.

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You realize the Indians are here because of republicans right?

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Yeah Dhairya Gupta is indistinguishable from John Smith. Basically the same in every way.

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So we've arrived at the crux of the issue: Your definition of an American includes specifically and exclusively those Americans of white European descent. And, I assume, distant descent so as to exclude any uniquely European cultural or language norms that have not been retained her.

And that's fine, but just say it. Don't play these silly games. Own the opinion.

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It's all in the open in the rest of the thread that you apparently refuse to read.

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I've looked over your posts in this thread, and it's a lot of dancing around an opinion you clearly hold but are only willing to state in indirect and euphemistic ways. Your response to "what is an American" is consistently answered in the negative, stating what an American isn't but never willing to clearly state what it is.

Again, just shoot straight. Be willing to openly state your position and stand behind it.

People have actually been pretty openly identifying as ethnonationalists in this thread. I appreciate that they've just come out and said as much.

Maybe look harder. I've also said there's a shared European lineage and inextricable cultural experience dating back millennia that defines what an American is. And it's why a random German is closer to an American than a random Indian living in America.

You: What about blacks and Hispanics?

Me: Asked and answered in the responses you claim to have read.

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This country was founded by and for white Christians. Doesn't mean non-white non-Christian people can't live here at all. But they should know the purpose of the country's existence is not for them.

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Lemme help out a little here.

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For you Christian nationalists, who say that America is only for Christians (which is dumb and evil)....did you know that there is a long-lived population of Indian Christians in India? That's why many have Christian names.

Now you know.

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Good for them but don't really care about what happens in other countries as long as they keep it there.

This country was founded by and for white Christians. Doesn't mean non-white non-Christian people can't live here at all. But they should know the purpose of the country's existence is not for them.

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Hey. Did you know that most of us Browns are classified by our government as white? And most of us are Christian. How does that make you feel?

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Hey. Did you know that most of us Browns are classified by our government as white? And most of us are Christian. How does that make you feel?

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