What is lost on some of y'all is that this all started under Perry and Abbott.

They both were handing out tax breaks to tech companies with no incentive to hire US citizens for those jobs that they were created as a result of those companies setting up shop in Austin and DFW. Those companies brought in cheaper labor from India and have been doing so for 30 years. So those folks who moved here in 2000 from India bought homes and had families. Now those folks had kids who are 100 percent US citizens, completely acclimated to being just that..Americans.

If the GOP wants someone to blame about how "they don't look like us," or "those kids are taking our spots," they only need to look in the mirror.

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I agree with Cornyn. Very stupid thing to post.

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Cornyn is really showing who he truly is. There's nothing racist about posting something that's happening that should be questioned. He's doing what the left always does to shut down the conversation and or momentum. And he's doing it to a Republican. He worming his way to a CNN gig at this point.

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So "something that's happening that should be questioned" is brown people enjoying a college football game? Good lord, white nationalism has become so normalized here.

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This is about H1B fraud and you know it.

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This is about a GOP politician literally posting a picture of brown people and saying racist things. If he wanted to talk H1B fraud he could have said that directly, but instead he used a visual meant to apply to the hearts of the xenophobic MAGA (but I repeat myself) base.

Quick check for racism: what do you know about these students besides the their skin color?

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More racism and bull**** comes out of the Democrat party than anything, but you guys again want to push the maga lie. Your party is constantly telling white people. They are evil and horrible and bad.

We actually don't care about color in general. That's something you guys push with every breath you take. And yes, this is about HB one fraud. It's about people in other countries giving fraudulent results to get into universities and taking a US citizen spot

But you keep going on about the the white man boogie man and how racist MAGA is when we're not and just completely ignore the cluster **** that is your party.

With every post, you lose your argument, a little more. Oh no wait you don't have an argument. You just throw out the racist card. You don't wanna talk about the topics you don't wanna talk about the real problems like any typical liberal and Democrat you just wanna push racism, racism, racism, white man bad.

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What is lost on some of y'all is that this all started under Perry and Abbott.

They both were handing out tax breaks to tech companies with no incentive to hire US citizens for those jobs that they were created as a result of those companies setting up shop in Austin and DFW. Those companies brought in cheaper labor from India and have been doing so for 30 years. So those folks who moved here in 2000 from India bought homes and had families. Now those folks had kids who are 100 percent US citizens, completely acclimated to being just that..Americans.

If the GOP wants someone to blame about how "they don't look like us," or "those kids are taking our spots," they only need to look in the mirror.

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I get your point.

But Perry nor Abbott don't have control over the H1b visa abuse.

There is nothing wrong with diversifying the State's business...and because Perry did that, we're seeing a massive overflow of the rainy day fund right now. Business in our State is booming, and we're not reliant on the ebbs and flows of the energy sector any longer.

Growing business in our State, and controlling the immigration policy of the country are two different things.

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you literally brought your Italian heritage into it.

Anyway not all change is the same. We can improve our society in ways I agree with and also radically change it in ways that I don't, and those are independent of each other.

Segregation bad doesn't make unfettered immigration good.

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It's interesting that some in the Democrat party want to bring back segregation. Just blows the mind.

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Seems pretty clear that future societies including America will be incredibly racists. It just remains to be seen which races dominate the others.

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Like virtually all other countries in the world outside the west? The ones that aren't being flooded with migrants??

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this is not a foregone conclusion. you are acting as if the political environment of the past 50 or 25 years is some immutable law of nature. it is not.

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Given where our birthrate is, and where the current demographics stand, I'd say mathematically it would be near impossible to change, via immigration policy, the demographics back to what they were 50 years ago.

If we want to remain the only economic and political superpower left, we need to adapt to the changing world.

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Seems pretty clear that future societies including America will be incredibly racists. It just remains to be seen which races dominate the others.

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Everyone on earth is a blood and soil nationalist for the people they care about. Except whites, for the most part.

Stop race bating. We dont care about the color of their skin.

We care that they are possibly cheating on the SAT and stealing opportunities from American children of all races.

Yep. In fact, I said this very thing in my first post on this thread yet the left keeps pushing racism, racism, racism, and white man bad.

They don't want to look at the problem. So Typical Democrats.

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this is not a foregone conclusion. you are acting as if the political environment of the past 50 or 25 years is some immutable law of nature. it is not.

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Given where our birthrate is, and where the current demographics stand, I'd say mathematically it would be near impossible to change, via immigration policy, the demographics back to what they were 50 years ago.

If we want to remain the only economic and political superpower left, we need to adapt to the changing world.

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What if we worried less about the ability to project influence and various corners of the world and worried more about what happens in the western hemisphere and taking care of our own messes for a while?

The economic superpower is a joke when it comes at the behest of massive money printing and a gajillion times earnings valuations of tech companies.

Well, when white kids are literally being discriminated against these days being accepted into colleges, it's a problem. It's funny how you hated it when it happened back in the 60s against other minorities, because it was wrong then and it's wrong now it doesn't matter what race it's against.

But it's OK against the whites. Again this is about the cheating and preferential treatment.

Trying to change a wrong by doing another wrong doesn't make it OK.

Remember, according to the Democrats and even the weirdo running for office right now it's only bad if you're white. Everyone else gets a pass.

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Stop race bating. We dont care about the color of their skin.

We care that they are cheating on the SAT and stealing opportunities from our children.

Yep. In fact, I said this very thing in my first post on this thread yet the left keeps pushing racism, racism, racism, and white man bad.

They don't want to look at the problem. So Typical Democrats.

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There was literally a post in this thread which stated they didn't care if non-white people were more qualified, they wanted less qualified whites to be selected simply because they are white.

There's a reason for that currently but who's to say it will remain that way. Time will tell.

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Stop race bating. We dont care about the color of their skin.

We care that they are cheating on the SAT and stealing opportunities from our children.

Yep. In fact, I said this very thing in my first post on this thread yet the left keeps pushing racism, racism, racism, and white man bad.

They don't want to look at the problem. So Typical Democrats.

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There was literally a post in this thread which stated they didn't care if non-white people were more qualified, they wanted less qualified whites to be selected simply because they are white.

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I didn't say that. I don't know who did. I don't care what color people are IF they're getting in on their own merits. It appears there is a skewed amount of Indians getting in on fraudulent test scores.

If they are American citizens that's fine as well. I don't care what color they are. I think we need to lower the international acceptance rates regardless of color. I've said this all along. Don't blame me for somebody else's stupid comment.

And you can say the same in reverse about many other comments on this thread. See how that works?

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Cool. Your side of our history has always lost in this country, thankfully.

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What exactly are you referring to?

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Those that have wanted to end immigration to our country.

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And you believe it's racially motivated?

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Stop race bating. We dont care about the color of their skin.

We care that they are cheating on the SAT and stealing opportunities from our children.

Yep. In fact, I said this very thing in my first post on this thread yet the left keeps pushing racism, racism, racism, and white man bad.

They don't want to look at the problem. So Typical Democrats.

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There was literally a post in this thread which stated they didn't care if non-white people were more qualified, they wanted less qualified whites to be selected simply because they are white.

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I didn't say that. I don't know who did. I don't care what color people are IF they're getting in on their own merits. It appears there is a skewed amount of Indians getting in on fraudulent test scores.

If they are American citizens that's fine as well. I don't care what color they are. I think we need to lower the international acceptance rates regardless of color. I've said this all along. Don't blame me for somebody else's stupid comment.

And you can say the same in reverse about many other comments on this thread. See how that works?

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Are the qualifications for being an American literally just "anyone from anywhere that might be superior to any American anywhere?"

I didn't pay any attention to this HB-1 stuff for a long time. Honestly, I wasn't even aware how much of it was supposedly fraudulent and/or prevalent in many of our universities.

If Abbott brought this on then shame on him. We know the Democrats allowed lot of illegal immigration so it sounds like a joint effort to me. Are they connected? Maybe on a small amount I honestly don't know. I'll have to look more into this.

Honestly, I had never heard of Bo French before this blew up.

I need to do a little more research on this issue, but it sounds like they're cracking down more on the number and raising the cost of them? That might help with some of this. I also wasn't aware of these so-called testing/diploma factories producing fraudulent, credentials in India and other countries.

I just assumed and/or hoped that people that were applying for college actually had the credentials they say they do.

Again, I don't care what ethnicity someone is if they get it on their own merit and I would prefer American citizens get first cracks at schools and have a very small international rates.

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Stop race bating. We dont care about the color of their skin.

We care that they are cheating on the SAT and stealing opportunities from our children.

Yep. In fact, I said this very thing in my first post on this thread yet the left keeps pushing racism, racism, racism, and white man bad.

They don't want to look at the problem. So Typical Democrats.

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There was literally a post in this thread which stated they didn't care if non-white people were more qualified, they wanted less qualified whites to be selected simply because they are white.

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I didn't say that. I don't know who did. I don't care what color people are IF they're getting in on their own merits. It appears there is a skewed amount of Indians getting in on fraudulent test scores.

If they are American citizens that's fine as well. I don't care what color they are. I think we need to lower the international acceptance rates regardless of color. I've said this all along. Don't blame me for somebody else's stupid comment.

And you can say the same in reverse about many other comments on this thread. See how that works?

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Are the qualifications for being an American literally just "anyone from anywhere that might be superior to any American anywhere?"

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Only if they go to college football games too

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Stop race bating. We dont care about the color of their skin.

We care that they are cheating on the SAT and stealing opportunities from our children.

Yep. In fact, I said this very thing in my first post on this thread yet the left keeps pushing racism, racism, racism, and white man bad.

They don't want to look at the problem. So Typical Democrats.

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There was literally a post in this thread which stated they didn't care if non-white people were more qualified, they wanted less qualified whites to be selected simply because they are white.

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I didn't say that. I don't know who did. I don't care what color people are IF they're getting in on their own merits. It appears there is a skewed amount of Indians getting in on fraudulent test scores.

If they are American citizens that's fine as well. I don't care what color they are. I think we need to lower the international acceptance rates regardless of color. I've said this all along. Don't blame me for somebody else's stupid comment.

And you can say the same in reverse about many other comments on this thread. See how that works?

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My apologies if you didn't initially make the statement.

Anyway, do you agree that the overall majority of the kids depicted at the game are US citizens who went to US high schools? And if so, then the "fradulent test scores" accusation does not apply?

you've moved the goalposts though. before you said change and continue to change.

and i dont care about GDP. i dont want our country to go through what is happening in the UK. it's our country, not the rest of the world's. it was founded and exists for us and our posterity. the constitution says nothing about it belonging to people globally and universally based on "merit".

He doesn't care about the reality of the post or the intent. He doesn't hear that this is about a larger system with the HB-1s. He just wants to push that MAGA and Republicans are racist. But of course we see racist as hell comments constantly from the Democrats every day and he has no problem with that.
I mean for God sakes look at Talarico, putting down his own race and saying we are horrible people. He has no problem with that.

Just let him live in his own little world, thinking everyone's racist but him and ignoring the actual problems in our state and country. Liberals and Democrats bring race into everything. It's exhausting to deal with these people.

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lol. Vance married a Hindu woman.

Your opinion is crap once again.

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And she was born in San Diego.

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this is not a foregone conclusion. you are acting as if the political environment of the past 50 or 25 years is some immutable law of nature. it is not.

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Given where our birthrate is, and where the current demographics stand, I'd say mathematically it would be near impossible to change, via immigration policy, the demographics back to what they were 50 years ago.

If we want to remain the only economic and political superpower left, we need to adapt to the changing world.

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What if we worried less about the ability to project influence and various corners of the world and worried more about what happens in the western hemisphere and taking care of our own messes for a while?

The economic superpower is a joke when it comes at the behest of massive money printing and a gajillion times earnings valuations of tech companies.

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The risk with isolation is if we're not dictating policy worldwide, some other, stronger country will. And that includes dictating policy upon us, too. To me, that is a far scarier world to leave our grandchildren than having some Indian kids cheer at a football game.

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Do you run a meritocracy for your own children?

If your neighbor's kids are smarter, would you kick yours out for theirs?

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I'd tell mine they better find a way to compete and differentiate themselves. Everyone says the world needs ditch diggers until it's their children with the shovel in their hands.

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Wow dude here's some math. India is a rapidly industrializing nation of 1.43 Billion with a B. Take the top 2% of that number and have your kids compete with even half that or a quarter of that-- in our educational system.

Your kids might not be stuck with shovels but they are not going to have the opportunity to max out what they do have because US schools are taking the top ~3 friggen % of the worlds best, not America best. Then many of them go home and compete with us using our tech, processes, and educational systems.

China didnt become a world power due to socialism they sent a zillion kids starting in the very late 70's to US universities. And here we are with them breathing down our necks.

This is about a lot more than a friggen pic from a football game. How many Texas students could be at UT right now bettering Texas, not india.

Granted some stay, but are they assimilating? Will they assimilate, maybe, possibly, dont know. But many will always have their hearts in India. Which is totally understandable but not in the interest of your kids or this nation. India will be a major future competitor to the US just as China has since ~2010.

Its NOT our responsibility or in our interest to educated and train future competitors for a short term gain.

You cant see this ???? Agree competition is good but leave that for the citizenry of this nation. Great power completion is not so fun especially when you give them our best tech and processes. Its ******ed

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you've moved the goalposts though. before you said change and continue to change.

and i dont care about GDP. i dont want our country to go through what is happening in the UK. it's our country, not the rest of the world's. it was founded and exists for us and our posterity. the constitution says nothing about it belonging to people globally and universally based on "merit".

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I do think the demographics will continue to change, even with drastic changes to our immigration policies. I guess we will find out in 50 years.

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Stop race bating. We dont care about the color of their skin.

We care that they are cheating on the SAT and stealing opportunities from our children.

Yep. In fact, I said this very thing in my first post on this thread yet the left keeps pushing racism, racism, racism, and white man bad.

They don't want to look at the problem. So Typical Democrats.

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There was literally a post in this thread which stated they didn't care if non-white people were more qualified, they wanted less qualified whites to be selected simply because they are white.

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I didn't say that. I don't know who did. I don't care what color people are IF they're getting in on their own merits. It appears there is a skewed amount of Indians getting in on fraudulent test scores.

If they are American citizens that's fine as well. I don't care what color they are. I think we need to lower the international acceptance rates regardless of color. I've said this all along. Don't blame me for somebody else's stupid comment.

And you can say the same in reverse about many other comments on this thread. See how that works?

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My apologies if you didn't initially make the statement.

Anyway, do you agree that the overall majority of the kids depicted at the game are US citizens who went to US high schools? And if so, then the "fradulent test scores" accusation does not apply?

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I don't think there's any way to know by the picture. And I don't think you do either. I would think that many of them probably are, all of them, I don't know. Do I think looking into the issue is racist in itself no. I think people are looking at his comment the way they want to. If they wanna see it as being racist and not about a bigger issue they will and vice-versa. I had no idea who Bo French was.

I think I mentioned this earlier on this thread, but I do know in the last few years that apparently a lot of Asians have been discriminated against in some of the Ivy League schools. I think it's more Chinese/Japanese Americans than Indian. There was some kid that had gotten like perfect scores applied to 30+ colleges and didn't get into one, that's weird.

I just want a fair system. Again I need to research on this topic more because I wasn't really aware of it.

Today's homework Ags.

Go research the Kalergi Plan and also the White Replacement

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Stop race bating. We dont care about the color of their skin.

We care that they are cheating on the SAT and stealing opportunities from our children.

Yep. In fact, I said this very thing in my first post on this thread yet the left keeps pushing racism, racism, racism, and white man bad.

They don't want to look at the problem. So Typical Democrats.

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There was literally a post in this thread which stated they didn't care if non-white people were more qualified, they wanted less qualified whites to be selected simply because they are white.

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I didn't say that. I don't know who did. I don't care what color people are IF they're getting in on their own merits. It appears there is a skewed amount of Indians getting in on fraudulent test scores.

If they are American citizens that's fine as well. I don't care what color they are. I think we need to lower the international acceptance rates regardless of color. I've said this all along. Don't blame me for somebody else's stupid comment.

And you can say the same in reverse about many other comments on this thread. See how that works?

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My apologies if you didn't initially make the statement.

Anyway, do you agree that the overall majority of the kids depicted at the game are US citizens who went to US high schools? And if so, then the "fradulent test scores" accusation does not apply?

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I don't think there's any way to know by the picture. And I don't think you do either. I would think that many of them probably are, all of them, I don't know. Do I think looking into the issue is racist in itself no. I think people are looking at his comment the way they want to. If they wanna see it as being racist and not about a bigger issue they will and vice-versa. I had no idea who Bo French was.

I think I mentioned this earlier on this thread, but I do know in the last few years that apparently a lot of Asians have been discriminated against in some of the Ivy League schools. I think it's more Chinese/Japanese Americans than Indian. There was some kid that had gotten like perfect scores applied to 30+ colleges and didn't get into one, that's weird.

I just want a fair system. Again I need to research on this topic more because I wasn't really aware of it.

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I think looking at the picture and knowing nothing else, then concluding there is a problem, is racist.

You know this is a tangent, and again I'm glad there are all sorts of sports in our country, but I did hear they were building a very big cricket facility near Katy I believe. And I thought well that's interesting. You don't hear about cricket much in America. Maybe that's because of the increased Indian population I don't know.

I've never really understood that sport. It seems like a cross between baseball and badminton.

School districts across the Dallas/Fort Worth metroplex have undergone massive demographic shifts in the 21st century

In the Coppell ISD, the share of Asian students, driven largely by the area’s growing Indian population, has more than tripled over the past 20 years pic.twitter.com/aEPbHpWGr0

— tate brown (@realTateBrown) September 14, 2026

this is good, and right, and necessary for us to be a superpower - is that your stance?

Lumping Indians in to the broader Asian category is insidious and obfuscates their prevalence in this country over the past 20 or so years. Not putting this at your feet, obviously, but it is something I have seen more and more of lately.

I think looking at the picture and knowing nothing else, then concluding there is a problem, is racist.

That's a fair statement.

But since the HB-1 thing, and again, I have not been paying much attention to it, has been creeping up in the news for the past few years. I don't think it's a completely bizarre connection though.

Honestly, by the picture, and considering how students get their tickets at each school, I'm curious as to how so many were in one section. I don't know how the sips do their student pull. But I would've expected the section to be more diverse with all sorts of races. Wouldn't you?

I mean, did they pull in a group?

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If a Chinese national is here on vacation and has a child, that child leaves and never comes back. Doesn't speak English - but is a US citizen and has a US passport.

Is this person my countryman?

How bout this guy's kids?

Do I owe them the same obligations that I do to a family who has been here, settling and running this country with mine for decades or centuries?

Immigration law - especially the radical kind we put in place 60 years ago - is a BAD decider of this question.

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The scenario you brought up has nothing to do with the situation that was in the OP. Start a different thread.

There's a huge cricket facility just outside of Prairie View A&M.

They absolutely are related.

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School districts across the Dallas/Fort Worth metroplex have undergone massive demographic shifts in the 21st century

In the Coppell ISD, the share of Asian students, driven largely by the area’s growing Indian population, has more than tripled over the past 20 years pic.twitter.com/aEPbHpWGr0

— tate brown (@realTateBrown) September 14, 2026

this is good, and right, and necessary for us to be a superpower - is that your stance?

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That is a pretty big rise and fall for the respective races for 20 years. Interesting that the African-American number didn't change.