***Official Govt Shutdown Discussion***

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FireAg
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The more I look at things now…and the more it's becoming clear that with the government shutdown, Trump is going to be able to make some unilateral budget spending moves, bypassing Congress, the more I think the Rs and Trump set a trap for the Ds, and they walked right into it…
captkirk
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coolerguy12
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Who?mikejones! said:

Texas spends between 100 - 130 million a month for health care on illegalzs through hospital services

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/immigration/article/texas-hospitals-immigrants-costs-20295165.php?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Less than 5% of that 121 million was repaid directly by the illegal, according to the Texas hhsc which means we are footing something like 110-115 million a month of health care for illegals


Did Scrooge ever respond to this? I'm guessing he is waiting for the talking points to roll out explaining how up is down and left and right and we can trust doctors again.
FireAg
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The Rs FINALLY have smart people doing research and running social media to control narratives with facts to fight Leftwing talking points…

I'm very impressed with how they've handled this…
captkirk
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Ellis Wyatt
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Money is fungible. Of course your party is lying to America. Stop it.
Ducks4brkfast
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FireAg said:

The Rs FINALLY have smart people doing research and running social media to control narratives with facts to fight Leftwing talking points…

I'm very impressed with how they've handled this…

It's JD.

Pence was such a terrible pick by Trump.
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https://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2025/10/02/democrats-demand-healthcare-funds-for-migrants-amid-deportation-pressures/
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Democrats are fighting to restart a pipeline of $20 billion in government healthcare aid per year to help migrants who face rising economic pressure to self-deport homeward.

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"Democrats are demanding health care for everybody," admitted Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA), whose California district includes many illegals. "The amount of money that actually is going towards people who are undocumented is such a small portion," said Rep. Ro Khanna.

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Without the federal funding, state Democrats in California, Minnesota, and other states will be forced to go through a painful process of cutting funds from their myriad interest groups.

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The healthcare funding is smuggled to illegal migrants via multiple spending accounts and myriad legal classifications, all of which is hidden behind a law barring illegal migrants from Medicaid spending.
For example, President Joe Biden's pro-migration border chief, Ali Mayorkas, granted a quasi-legal status to roughly 3 million illegals via the "humanitarian parole" and "Temporary Protected Status" programs. This legal maneuver allowed the illegal migrants to legally get federal healthcare aid.
Similarly, Biden's deputies allowed California to get a legal waiver from federal rules, so allowing the state to be compensated with federal funds when it spends state funds on healthcare for illegals.

txags92
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Ducks4brkfast said:

FireAg said:

The Rs FINALLY have smart people doing research and running social media to control narratives with facts to fight Leftwing talking points…

I'm very impressed with how they've handled this…

It's JD.

Pence was such a terrible pick by Trump.

Not the least of which because he didn't agree with pretty much all of what Trump wanted to do. Pence was the ultimate Uniparty squish type actively working against Trump's admin from within.
Ellis Wyatt
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Doctors don't take the payments. But you know that.
Equinox
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Who?mikejones!
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coolerguy12 said:

Who?mikejones! said:

Texas spends between 100 - 130 million a month for health care on illegalzs through hospital services

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/immigration/article/texas-hospitals-immigrants-costs-20295165.php?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Less than 5% of that 121 million was repaid directly by the illegal, according to the Texas hhsc which means we are footing something like 110-115 million a month of health care for illegals


Did Scrooge ever respond to this? I'm guessing he is waiting for the talking points to roll out explaining how up is down and left and right and we can trust doctors again.


No one did, to my knowledge.

When I found the numbers I was astounded. I was not surprised so few pay anything back.

The dems and or people like the poster live in la la land to think that somehow funding Medicare to cover such hospital costs takes care of the issue. The money comes from the same palace- the taxpayer. It certainly does not come from the illegal immigrant.

Trump or Vance should have a fireside chat for the entire nation and go over the summary of demands I posted. Its on this thread. Its only 12 pages, probably like 6 worth of reading. They are shutting the govt down for absolutely absurd reasons. That's what i would do. Maybe even invite Jake tapper in to sit along side
YouBet
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Just wanted to add to the pile on that you are either ignorant or lying.

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President Trump said Democrats want more than $1 trillion to fund healthcare for unauthorized immigrants. Is that the case?

Democrats are seeking over $1 trillion more in healthcare funds overall, including for the ACA subsidies and Medicaid, over 10 years. Their proposal, which they cast as a starting point in talks, would reverse all health-policy changes enacted by the GOP's tax law, including provisions that limited federal funding for healthcare for unauthorized and "lawfully present" immigrants.

ShinerAggie
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“Those who cannot change their minds cannot change anything.”
- George Bernard Shaw
Science Denier
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Scrooge Doogler said:

Henriques said:

Scrooge Doogler said:




He's talking about emergency services. You want to live in a society where we just let people die in emergency rooms bc they arent here legally? You need a social security number for medicaid, illegal aliens dont have those. Your argument falls apart at the simplest questioning.

You just said Democrats weren't proposing free healthcare for illegals.

Representative Khanna proved your statements were inaccurate.



Healthcare and emergency medical are not the same.

Edit: To elaborate, Medicaid provisions for emergency care for illegals is not health insurance, it only covers the emergency care that keeps them from dying.

Did this dude just say emergency HEALTH CARE is not HEALTH CARE and try to prove it equating it to HEALTH INSURANCE?
techno-ag
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Science Denier said:

Scrooge Doogler said:

Henriques said:

Scrooge Doogler said:




He's talking about emergency services. You want to live in a society where we just let people die in emergency rooms bc they arent here legally? You need a social security number for medicaid, illegal aliens dont have those. Your argument falls apart at the simplest questioning.

You just said Democrats weren't proposing free healthcare for illegals.

Representative Khanna proved your statements were inaccurate.



Healthcare and emergency medical are not the same.

Edit: To elaborate, Medicaid provisions for emergency care for illegals is not health insurance, it only covers the emergency care that keeps them from dying.

Did this dude just say emergency HEALTH CARE is not HEALTH CARE and try to prove it equating it to HEALTH INSURANCE?

It's (D)ifferent.
The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
74Ag1
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Who?mikejones! said:

Texas spends between 100 - 130 million a month for health care on illegalzs through hospital services

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/immigration/article/texas-hospitals-immigrants-costs-20295165.php?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Less than 5% of that 121 million was repaid directly by the illegal, according to the Texas hhsc which means we are footing something like 110-115 million a month of health care for illegals

ICE needs to hang around emergency rooms and catch em as they come in. Like setting a trot line
Ag In Ok
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I've got an idea - how about every green card holder, student visa, etc all be required to prepurchase and maintain a health insurance policy with broad limits to ensure we aren't footing their bill. Agents can set up shop in airports and border crossings. Low deductibles and high annual single event and combined spend caps. Also, Labor and Delivery is excluded.
Failure to provide verified proof of insurance equals immediate deportation.
Psycho Bunny
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Ag In Ok said:

I've got an idea - how about every green card holder, student visa, etc all be required to prepurchase and maintain a health insurance policy with broad limits to ensure we aren't footing their bill. Agents can set up shop in airports and border crossings. Low deductibles and high annual single event and combined spend caps. Also, Labor and Delivery is excluded.
Failure to provide verified proof of insurance equals immediate deportation.

Or have the leftist liberals foot the bill, since they are all so concern about illegals
When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say.
will25u
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Setting everyone's OOO message server side. Lol

"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
Psycho Bunny
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Trump administration out here playing 4D chess.

When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say.
techno-ag
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will25u said:

Setting everyone's OOO message server side. Lol




LOL. Trump is the GOAT.

The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
Who?mikejones!
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Probably big ballz work
jt2hunt
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TexAgs91
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Too bad Elon isn't at the helm at DOGE right now taking advantage of this shutdown. By the time the shutdown is over no one would recognize the federal government.
No, I don't care what CNN or Miss NOW said this time
Ad Lunam
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captkirk said:



Harambe!!!

Scrooge Doogler
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captkirk said:



Off topic and not related to the current Dem demands. This is a program funded entirely by NY State. If you don't want to fund it, don't live in NY. It's actually illegal to use federal funds for this as of 1996.
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Who?mikejones!
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Money is fungible
coolerguy12
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Bless your heart
Dungeon Crawler Carl
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Idiocracy was not supposed to be a documentary........yet here we are.

Just fire them and move on.




flown-the-coop
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No, libs need to be taught a lesson they will not soon forget.

Clearing out the deadwood is just another step in what will be a long 3 years and 3 months remaining for Il Donaldo and grade a trolling.
ts5641
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captkirk said:



His description of what Republicans are doing is exactly what the dems have done for years. The left always accuses the good guys of doing what they do.
Their ideas are terrible and the only way they can sell them is to lie, lie, lie until people believe it's true.
Goebbels would be so proud.
 
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