***Official Govt Shutdown Discussion***

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txags92
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Science Denier said:

txags92 said:

Science Denier said:

will25u said:



Uh Oh.

RINOS caving in 5...4...3...

Thats not what I took from that at all. I took it as they were going to go try to pull a few dems away from Schumer by beating the drum that Schumer is beholden to the marxists in NY and they will be too if they keep going along with him.

When Republicans "negotiate" it means they give something. This needs to be a clean CR. Period. Giving anything else is caving unless they get something in return.

Like,l

If libs want to add ANYTHING, then the Republicans should demand making registering for voting illegal if you are not a citizen as well as requiring an ID to vote.

I didn't hear him saying he wanted to negotiate. I heard him saying they wanted to peel away some moderate dems to support the existing clean resolution.
will25u
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Ellis Wyatt
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Democrats HATE Americans.

That's why they're holding out to continue paying illegal aliens.
Prosperdick
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I know there are some that are impacted but the vast majority of Americans see absolutely ZERO change in their day-to-day lives and every day the shutdown continues it enforces the belief that the government does absolutely nothing.
Ellis Wyatt
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It impacts me because I have a renter not getting paid, but democrats are going to have to have their noses rubbed in it. This is all they're doing.
Prosperdick
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Ellis Wyatt said:

It impacts me because I have a renter not getting paid, but democrats are going to have to have their noses rubbed in it. This is all they're doing.

I think most Americans know it takes 60 votes and it's the Dems holding it up from a clean CR bill (not adding or taking anything away).

That's because with the internet and Elon's social media more facts are getting to we, the people rather than in the past where legacy media could gaslight the public by and large and the R's would fold fearing backlash from their constituents, who consumed said media.
FireAg
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Do NOT negotiate ANYTHING with Ds that involves getting free healthcare to illegals (either directly or indirectly through loopholes in Medicaid funding in certain states, or that fixes ACA issues for a program that was fundamentally broken and corrupt the moment is was passed into law…
FCBlitz
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I am working on furlough. I can see my workmates coming back with the talking points from the MSP. There are a few Trump supporters that are cracking and the first disagreement they are willing to align with is "TRUMP needs to use a scalpel vs a hatchet". They are starting to believe as if we haven't been paid for months.


Me. I keep saying lay every useless person off possible. It is not Trumps fault that 13M illegals(I don't even know the correct number anymore) and that the government is bloated.

I merely point out that we BORROW money to pay off debt…..and there is no way to get ahead of it unless you aggressively cut spending. My workmates who are cracking seem to have forgotten we operate in the RED.
coolerguy12
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Keep up the good work. Don't let them gaslight you.
Ducks4brkfast
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The discussion doesn't even need to center around illegals.

Here's the deal. In 2021, the D's pushed through healthcare subsidies to help families pay for healthcare during the pandemic. They themselves put a 4-year expiration on the subsidies because Covid lock downs were't going to last forever.

Now they're expiring, as they SHOULD.

We don't need to continue to subsidize healthcare costs for people making 400% above the poverty level - $62,600 for a single person, to $128,600 for a family of four.
4stringAg
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will25u said:




This should end any debate on where the blame lies here for any American who isn't part of the mentally ill left. They don't give a rats ass about anything but power. Schumer is scared ****less of AOC if he backs off this
BQ78
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Well in their mind they do need the subsidies, because Obamacare is going to collapse without them.
Henriques
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The cracks are starting to show over at Castle Dimskull:

Folks will only serve Chuckie's needs for so long...

Head of the largest Federal Employees' Union cries uncle...

Quote:

"It's time to pass a clean continuing resolution and end this shutdown today. No half measures, and no gamesmanship," AFGE President Everett Kelley said in a Monday statement provided to NBC News.

"It's time for our leaders to start focusing on how to solve problems for the American people, rather than on who is going to get the blame for a shutdown that Americans dislike," Kelley said.


Were the Plantation Party winning the messaging war they traditionally win, then you would not be seeing this at all.

Ag with kids
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I'm at an ASTM F38 (Unmanned Aircraft Systems Standards) meeting.

Typically, we have a lot of regulators from around the world (FAA, Transport Canada, EASA, etc).

No FAA at all today. Which is unfortunate, since they just released Parts 108 and 146 and it would have been nice to hear from them for more guidance for our development of standards to help support these regulations.

On a side note, my institute is doing some UAS flight simulator research and I went to look up something in Part 60 (manned flight sim regulations). It looks like the entire CFR website is blocked right now...

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txags92
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Ag with kids said:

I'm at an ASTM F38 (Unmanned Aircraft Systems Standards) meeting.

Typically, we have a lot of regulators from around the world (FAA, Transport Canada, EASA, etc).

No FAA at all today. Which is unfortunate, since they just released Parts 108 and 146 and it would have been nice to hear from them for more guidance for our development of standards to help support these regulations.

On a side note, my institute is doing some UAS flight simulator research and I went to look up something in Part 60 (manned flight sim regulations). It looks like the entire CFR website is blocked right now...

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Think the block is on your end. It works fine for me.
Ag with kids
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txags92 said:

Ag with kids said:

I'm at an ASTM F38 (Unmanned Aircraft Systems Standards) meeting.

Typically, we have a lot of regulators from around the world (FAA, Transport Canada, EASA, etc).

No FAA at all today. Which is unfortunate, since they just released Parts 108 and 146 and it would have been nice to hear from them for more guidance for our development of standards to help support these regulations.

On a side note, my institute is doing some UAS flight simulator research and I went to look up something in Part 60 (manned flight sim regulations). It looks like the entire CFR website is blocked right now...

403 Forbidden

Think the block is on your end. It works fine for me.

That's good. I was hoping the government wasn't playing games like Obama did.

Just turned on my VPN and it worked...don't know what's blocking it. I'm on the Tarrant County Community College wifi and it would be odd if that blocked it...wasn't my browser either since I tried Brave and Safari and got the same block.

Weird. I just tried it on my phone on the same wifi network and it works.
FCBlitz
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I am working through the furlough…..being mission essential and all. I have a years worth of salary saved up just for this type of thing. Once the government gets restarted…..then I will get all of the money earned during the furlough in one payment.

will25u
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will25u
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Welp.

Bulldog73
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Should sue the state for libel.
txags92
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Bulldog73 said:

Should sue the state for libel.


Seems pretty clear cut to me. The resolution funds them. Trump is ready to sign it. Dems are the ones refusing to vote for it.
will25u
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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
Sims
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will25u said:

Welp.




Is they voting for the liberal anyway?
techno-ag
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will25u said:



Lord willing, this will help Republicans in November and in midterms next year.
The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
Ellis Wyatt
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Donald Trump is a senator?
will25u
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Don't think I agree with this. Republicans have the better position here.

"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
cryption
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We were fighting it when the dems were doing it - but suddenly it's a good idea now? I'm not sure I agree with that. Aside from the news telling us it's shut down, and all the drama, I have literally noticed zero impact on my life. I'd go as far as to say when the govt is shut down they aren't making things worse
titan
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will25u said:

Don't think I agree with this. Republicans have the better position here.



Agree with you. If going to take that step, make it when blocked in legislation that would really count and reduce the Left. Not this CR fight.
agsalaska
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Should never take that step. The filibuster is about the only thing holding this all together and has been for the better part of a decade.

I'm hoping Trump is just posturing.
ktownag08
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I don't support ending the filibuster. Period.

Doing that is the wrong thing to do and helps the Democrats.
will25u
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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
BQ78
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Why don't they find a judge to tell the king he has to abdicate and turn it over to Bernie and AOC?
SociallyConditionedAg
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I'm pretty sure that judge has no authority in this fight. In the case of a shutdown, the President has almost complete autonomy.
titan
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agsalaska said:

Should never take that step. The filibuster is about the only thing holding this all together and has been for the better part of a decade.

I'm hoping Trump is just posturing.

Now I am all for making the only kind allowed is where you do the filibuster literally only by talking and needing the proverbial glasses of water and not some "mail in" type like they did for a while.

But if not mistaken, it had been removed before by Democrats, or maybe it was not for this kind of legislation.

The scenario that might warrant it is legislation that would mandate clean single bills for things that should never have been part of unrelated subject budget fights anyway, like military and perhaps as we see, ATC. Though maybe that should just have a separate budgeting anyway. I thought Reagan had clarified much of the ATC in 1981.
Who?mikejones!
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Not sure the judge can do a damn thing about it. She might as well tell trump he can only write with his left hand.

The judiciary is seriously out of control. We live in a juristocracy at this point
 
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