***Official Govt Shutdown Discussion***

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txags92
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In reply to Gaeilge • 2:36p, 11/10/25
Gaeilge said:
Take the hemp crap out. There was no reason to toss that in. It was dirty pool by a neocon to add it.

I agree with you. It is stupid, it was dirty pool, etc. But we just "won" a shutdown for the first time and we are about to make the story that infighting on our own team is going to kill the deal instead.
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In reply to Ellis Wyatt • 2:36p, 11/10/25
Ellis Wyatt said:
titan said:

What do the discussions on Obamacare in December entail? Are they going to look at reworking it or getting rid of the parts that drive up prices?

Obamacare has failed. Democrats want to take more money and pour into it so they aren't blamed for its engineered failure. Conservatives told them it was a terrible idea and it was doomed to fail from the beginning, which is why Hussein literally locked republicans out of discussions.

Hussein just wanted to seize 20% of the economy, as he did with student loans. Seizing the money is seizing power and control.

  • Control healthcare and you control the people
Saul Alinsky

The DNC and the Democratic Party leadership are adherents of Alinsky
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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In reply to txags92 • 2:46p, 11/10/25
Well it's simple; take up Rand's amendment and boot it out.

Problem solved.
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2:47p, 11/10/25
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In reply to captkirk • 2:51p, 11/10/25
captkirk said:
LMCane said:
for those who think the Republicans somehow "lost".

NOPE!!


Sounds like a "win" for America

Yes. When The View and MSNBC are mad considering how hard left they are and anti-middle America, that is very good news.
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In reply to LMCane • 2:56p, 11/10/25
LMCane said:
when Commie Bernie is mad and whining, it's a great day for the Republicans


This bull crap about 50,000 people dying from the man who admires and advocates for the same system that murdered ~60 million people in Russia by Stalin and ~45 million people in 4 years in China by Mao.
Bernie Sanders is a lying, morally corrupt person.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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3:08p, 11/10/25
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In reply to dvldog • 3:36p, 11/10/25
dvldog said:

And that is why Rand should have never brought it up. Every wishy washy R is now going to want to add their own little bit of pork to it, with Murkowski probably first in line at the trough to "secure her vote". And eventually the dems will use it to back out of the deal blaming us for loading the bills up with pork and we will have snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, just like we always do.
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In reply to richardag • 3:36p, 11/10/25
richardag said:
titan said:

What do the discussions on Obamacare in December entail? Are they going to look at reworking it or getting rid of the parts that drive up prices?

I fully expect another government shutdown coming.
The Democratic Party leadership has been totally seized by insane lunatics.


"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." - Napoleon Bonaparte
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In reply to captkirk • 4:23p, 11/10/25
captkirk said:

The little weasel was trying to crawfish out like his usual hit and run and Scott yanked his little choke chain. That was awesome.

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4:53p, 11/10/25
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6:13p, 11/10/25
n/m
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Thunderstruck xx
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6:30p, 11/10/25
Keep it closed. I was enjoying no additional out of control spending.
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Dan Scott
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6:32p, 11/10/25
Without the Obamacare credits, insurance premiums will increase at least $1k for most people to be conservative. When it comes up to a vote, the Rs would look bad for voting it down. That's why Trump is floating the $2K stimulus checks. This way the Rs cantiniue to let Obamacare fail but will give out $2K stimulus which will be an indirect Obamacare subsidy.

That's the game plan in my opinion.
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Dan Scott
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6:34p, 11/10/25
Trump says it himself. They are going to give the non wealthy the Obamacare credit but call it something else

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In reply to Thunderstruck xx • 6:39p, 11/10/25
Thunderstruck xx said:
Keep it closed. I was enjoying no additional out of control spending.


Such a dumb statement.
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In reply to Dan Scott • 6:43p, 11/10/25
We are not taking in trillions of dollars. We've taken in somewhere around $150B. Just an idiotic own goal statement by Trump.

I didn't realize we had agreement from everyone that we were going to kill SS, Medicare, and Medicaid to address our debt. That's awesome news!
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In reply to Dan Scott • 7:09p, 11/10/25
He wants to basically create a sort HSA account so the people utilizing the credits/subsidies can shop providers vs. the federal government just writing a massive check to the insurance companies.
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7:22p, 11/10/25
since we need the House GOP to pass this as well

El Trumpo just lit into our favorite turncoat leftist idiot Republican congresswoman.

"Marjorie Taylor Green just does not know what she is talking about"

Trump an hour ago to Caitlin Collins.
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In reply to Gaeilge • 7:38p, 11/10/25
Gaeilge said:
He wants to basically create a sort HSA account so the people utilizing the credits/subsidies can shop providers vs. the federal government just writing a massive check to the insurance companies.


Make insurance companies be competitive and work for your money
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In reply to Bondag • 8:15p, 11/10/25
Bingo.
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In reply to Thunderstruck xx • 8:24p, 11/10/25
Thunderstruck xx said:
Keep it closed. I was enjoying no additional out of control spending.

Well get ready to pay overtime money to federal employees that now need to catch up on almost two months of work.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Ben Franklin
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In reply to Bondag • 8:26p, 11/10/25
Bondag said:
Gaeilge said:
He wants to basically create a sort HSA account so the people utilizing the credits/subsidies can shop providers vs. the federal government just writing a massive check to the insurance companies.


Make insurance companies be competitive and work for your money

and stop writing them govt checks to cover people who have no idea they're covered
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8:32p, 11/10/25
The Senate version has passed and it's headed back to the house…

What happened to Rand Paul's planned hissy fit over the hemp provision?
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In reply to Ag_SGT • 8:32p, 11/10/25
Ag_SGT said:
Thunderstruck xx said:
Keep it closed. I was enjoying no additional out of control spending.

Well get ready to pay overtime money to federal employees that now need to catch up on almost most two months of work.


How many team lunches and smoke breaks is it going to take to make up for being off work for 2 months? Jeebus, no one actually buys that non-essential fed workers who primarily worked from home for half a decade need overtime to catch up after 45 days.
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In reply to Dan Scott • 8:33p, 11/10/25
Those credits were passed DURING COVID and are for people up to 4x poverty level income.

**** those credits! Obamacare is theft and we said so before it was passed.
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In reply to Ag_SGT • 8:34p, 11/10/25
Ag_SGT said:
Thunderstruck xx said:
Keep it closed. I was enjoying no additional out of control spending.

Well get ready to pay overtime money to federal employees that now need to catch up on almost most two months of work.
Nah. Most aren't even needed.
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8:38p, 11/10/25
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In reply to FireAg • 8:51p, 11/10/25
FireAg said:
The Senate version has passed and it's headed back to the house…

What happened to Rand Paul's planned hissy fit over the hemp provision?

His amendment was tabled and the CR passed.
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In reply to Ag83 • 8:58p, 11/10/25
Massie must have agreed to **** it all up over in the House instead.
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8:59p, 11/10/25
likely to die in the house.
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In reply to Burpelson • 9:08p, 11/10/25
Burpelson said:
likely to die in the house.

What is likely to die in the house?
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In reply to FireAg • 9:12p, 11/10/25
Hakeem Jeffries if he keeps running that dumb mouth of his anytime someone dares challenge his ahhthori-tie.
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9:14p, 11/10/25
I assumed he meant the Senate version was likely to die in the House but Johnson doesn't seem to be projecting that feeling at all…so I was curious what I was missing…
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In reply to Burpelson • 9:27p, 11/10/25
Burpelson said:
likely to die in the house.


The house and trump will see this through if nothing else but to make the democrats look like idiots. No way anyone in the house would be the lone holdout to have their name plastered everywhere as the person who was letting people starve and not funding the military.
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