***Official Govt Shutdown Discussion***

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FireAg
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I admit…I could get onboard with sending $ to individual HSAs to supplement healthcare costs as a short term solution…

Keeps it out of the hands of state governments who only want to spend it it offset the costs of providing healthcare to illegals…
wessimo
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Sneaking a hemp ban in? Reefer madness!
Gaeilge
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txags92
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FireAg said:

I admit…I could get onboard with sending $ to individual HSAs to supplement healthcare costs as a short term solution…

Keeps it out of the hands of state governments who only want to spend it it offset the costs of providing healthcare to illegals…

Pair it with making it a felony crime to use federal funds to pay for illegal immigrant non-emergency care. Call the democrats bluff on what the money is for. If they object, it is clear what they are really after.
YouBet
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Sounds like we might get a senate vote tonight.
Jock 07
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Seeing reports of the VA & MILCON being funded through the FY, assuming the NDAA isn't included though?
FireAg
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NO ACA SUBSIDY EXTENSIONS

Rs held firm…

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/republicans-unveil-key-piece-shutdown-puzzle-bid-reopen-government
YouBet
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I'll eat some serious crow if that holds. Sounds like the House Dems won't vote for this though.
Ellis Wyatt
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Hope that's true.

A giant FU to dims for playing politics and lying about their intentions. They hate America and Americans.
AggiePastor
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Wont matter, only need a simple majority there
StEdsCOOG
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So will this be considered a bad look for Schumer if enough Dems break rank without his blessing? I'm not very political so excuse me if that was a dumb question.
Gaeilge
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MemphisAg1
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If the Republicans peel off just enough Dem votes to end the shutdown and send a middle finger to Schumer without him getting any of his demands met, that would be glorious!
Gaeilge
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AOC will use the 8 dems breaking ranks as her launch point for Schumer's seat.
MemphisAg1
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Gaeilge said:

AOC will use the 8 dems breaking ranks as her launch point for Schumer's seat.

So be it. I would love for AOC to knock Schumer out. He's such an evil turd.

Frankly, the more these kooks like Mamdani and AOC get elevated to spout their socialistic BS, the better it is for us regular folks that appreciate capitalism and limited government.
lawless89
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CR Vote coming now!
SwigAg11
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lawless89 said:

CR Vote coming now!

I have CSPAN up, but I'm not sure what this current roll call vote is for?
13B
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I don't like this: "The latest development comes after an updated continuing resolution was revealed that would reopen the government until Jan. 30, 2026, reverse firings of furloughed workers carried out by the Trump administration and ensure that furloughed workers get back pay." I feel like they are giving something when the CR was fine before (F the Dims). I don't like that Collins is heading this up. Not sure what this means but if it means paying the Senators then I am against it:" It includes legislation that would fund military construction and the VA, the legislative branch and agriculture and the Food and Drug Administration." I think TSA/FAA/ATC and Military should be paid instead of the legislative branch. Does Military Construction encompass all of the Military?
I know some people are hurting and they want to get past this but I don't want to give these A-holes in the Democratic Party ANYTHING!



Ag with kids
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MemphisAg1 said:

Gaeilge said:

AOC will use the 8 dems breaking ranks as her launch point for Schumer's seat.

So be it. I would love for AOC to knock Schumer out. He's such an evil turd.

Frankly, the more these kooks like Mamdani and AOC get elevated to spout their socialistic BS, the better it is for us regular folks that appreciate capitalism and limited government.

Yes he is.

But, he is ALSO good at what he does, maneuvering the Senate Dems to do what they do...

AOC doesn't have those skills...which hopefully will make the Senate Dems weaker...
MemphisAg1
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If she knocks him out, they'll pick another senior Dem for party leader. It won't be AOC. But let's hope she takes front and center stage for the Dems. Every time she and Mamdani speak, it will be good for Republicans and Libertarians.
Decay
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I heard a leftist say this is the end of the democratic party so... This is probably a good thing...
YouBet
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Decay said:

I heard a leftist say this is the end of the democratic party so... This is probably a good thing...


That would be a win for America.
FireAg
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I'd much rather give on this than the ACA subsidies that would go straight to illegals…at least those furloughed are Americans…
Dan Scott
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After 40 days what changed.
FireAg
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Dan Scott said:

After 40 days what changed.

Sounds like the furloughed workers permanently laid off are being retained…
texagco2003
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FireAg
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The key was not allowing the ACA subsidies…

No guarantees on them other than they will bring them to a vote at some point…
cavok
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If I understand correctly, one more "nay" vote and it won't pass.

13B
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FireAg said:

I'd much rather give on this than the ACA subsidies that would go straight to illegals…at least those furloughed are Americans…

I know but I hate to give in on anything. There was absolutely nothing that they should have balked at in the Clean CR. They are just being deaks and I hate to give them an inch. They certainly wouldn't if things were reversed.
CanyonAg77
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Dan Scott said:

After 40 days what changed.

Election is over
redcrayon
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Four Republican votes left: Lee, Scott, Cornyn and Johnson.
redcrayon
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13B said:

FireAg said:

I'd much rather give on this than the ACA subsidies that would go straight to illegals…at least those furloughed are Americans…

I know but I hate to give in on anything. There was absolutely nothing that they should have balked at in the Clean CR. They are just being deaks and I hate to give them an inch. They certainly wouldn't if things were reversed.

Republicans simply don't have the votes to not give an inch.
cavok
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redcrayon said:

Four Republican votes left: Lee, Scott, Cornyn and Johnson.

Then what are we waiting on?? Vote!!
redcrayon
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cavok said:

redcrayon said:

Four Republican votes left: Lee, Scott, Cornyn and Johnson.

Then what are we waiting on?? Vote!!

No idea. They were in the chamber.
Ellis Wyatt
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redcrayon said:


Republicans simply don't have the votes to not give an inch.
So weird. That never stops democrats from getting what they want.
 
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