No. Absolutely do not primary Kennedy

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Sounds like the deal they were working on has fallen through…

Ds are standing firm on the ACA subsidies issue that their bull**** created in the first place…

I say **** it…go nuclear and reopen the government without the Ds…

Best move the Rs can make…

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I'm now of the opinion this isn't about the ACA or illegals, i think this is about forcing the hand of the Rs to go to a straight majority vote. Once this is played, I'll expect it from both sides going forward. The senate lost their ability to be the "saucer under the teacup" Washington and others envisioned.

Probably so. But if the Republicans can hold stro g agaisnt thos radicalism then the dems will have no leg to stand on when they try to remove it.

(Yes, I know it doesnt matter to them and their media will support it regardless)

Ag In Ok said:

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FireAg said:

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Sounds like the deal they were working on has fallen through…

Ds are standing firm on the ACA subsidies issue that their bull**** created in the first place…

I say **** it…go nuclear and reopen the government without the Ds…

Best move the Rs can make…

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I'm now of the opinion this isn't about the ACA or illegals, i think this is about forcing the hand of the Rs to go to a straight majority vote. Once this is played, I'll expect it from both sides going forward. The senate lost their ability to be the "saucer under the teacup" Washington and others envisioned.

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If you want to see the Rs have success in the midterms, Rs need to open the government and implement Trump's domestic agenda with guns blazing…

It's now or never…

Republicans have just rejected the Democrats offer to end the shutdown, per CBS

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) November 7, 2025

Lol. Republicans have offered 13 times to end the shutdown

I still don't understand how there are people who think the nuclear option would ever pass. There are RINOs and GOPe that will never vote for this…nor will any Dem right now. We don't have 51 votes.

No compromise. Dems took it this far and now they are hurting, just hold the line and make them comply.

Dan Scott said:

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Republicans have just rejected the Democrats offer to end the shutdown, per CBS

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) November 7, 2025

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NO ACA SUBSIDY DEAL…PERIOD…

Ds created that mess…my tax dollars need to stop paying for it…

Dan Scott said:

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Republicans have just rejected the Democrats offer to end the shutdown, per CBS

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) November 7, 2025

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Just saw the Democrats asked for a 1-yr extension to ACA subsidies. I wonder what happens in 1-yr from now? Oh... Another election! I can't believe the Democrats would use our Mid-Term elections as another deadline to force more Government socialism on everyone and use the media to help them promote "Republicans want to take away your healthcare if you don't vote for us in November 2026!" It's the exact reason why Dems had the current ACA subsidies expire in November 2025 under Joe Biden... Use it for the off-year elections.

Why is our country run by such dumb, immoral people? The vast majority of congress should be in prison at this point.

I'm not sure if they are hurting or not. And I don't know if there is any really objective measures out there. Left leaning media says it's hurting republicans and right leaning media says it's hurting democrats. Who knows what the real truth is.

People are hurting for sure, but I am not sure if the national sentiment of moving one way or another. I do know if it lasts too long, people won't care about politics as it will be drastically affecting peoples lives…it will damage trust in BOTH parties

If Trump could find a workable workaround during this shutdown to pay govt employees and military at the very least, that would be a huge positive for a lot of people.

Yep. Schumer would rather have a 1 year extension than make them permanent just for the election meat. Probably what they wanted all along

ag94whoop said:

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I'm not sure if they are hurting or not. And I don't know if there is any really objective measures out there. Left leaning media says it's hurting republicans and right leaning media says it's hurting democrats. Who knows what the real truth is.

People are hurting for sure, but I am not sure if the national sentiment of moving one way or another. I do know if it lasts too long, people won't care about politics as it will be drastically affecting peoples lives…it will damage trust in BOTH parties

If Trump could find a workable workaround during this shutdown to pay govt employees and military at the very least, that would be a huge positive for a lot of people.

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It's not up to Trump to find a workaround to pay anyone. It's the job of Congress to pass a budget. Then if Trump doesn't sign it then it's all on him. But finding workarounds should never be the solution. If a POTUS can find workarounds then abolish Congress all together.

Good point. I guess my point is if people are getting paid, people and their jobs can't be used as leverage

I think the democrats are hoping the Republicans break the filibuster so they can go crazy once they get the numbers back

RulesForTheeNotForMe said:

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Dan Scott said:

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Republicans have just rejected the Democrats offer to end the shutdown, per CBS

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) November 7, 2025

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Just saw the Democrats asked for a 1-yr extension to ACA subsidies. I wonder what happens in 1-yr from now? Oh... Another election! I can't believe the Democrats would use our Mid-Term elections as another deadline to force more Government socialism on everyone and use the media to help them promote "Republicans want to take away your healthcare if you don't vote for us in November 2026!" It's the exact reason why Dems had the current ACA subsidies expire in November 2025 under Joe Biden... Use it for the off-year elections.

Why is our country run by such dumb, immoral people? The vast majority of congress should be in prison at this point.

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It's a trap! They'll just demand another extension and shut the government down over that. Stick your guns!

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I think the democrats are hoping the Republicans break the filibuster so they can go crazy once they get the numbers back

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They will do that anyway.

They would have done it in 2021 except Manchin and Sinema blocked it.

ag94whoop said:

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Good point. I guess my point is if people are getting paid, people and their jobs can't be used as leverage

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So then why have a budgets, just operate however the POTUS wants, frankly then abolish Congress because they serve no purpose

States need to call a convention and term limit every one of these ****ers. Very few there give a crap about their constituents. It is all about establishment of long term grift and power.

The fact that congress pays themselves and continues to collect all their financial rewards no matter what they do to the people of the nation should also be kept in account.

No one wants a president with too much power, it makes no sense. But some limited emergency powers do exist for good reason and some should be for the welfare of people so that neither party can hold the country hostage anytime they don't get what they want. Right now they seem to be at a legitimate impasse

Dan Scott said:

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Republicans have just rejected the Democrats offer to end the shutdown, per CBS

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) November 7, 2025

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LOL at how that is framed. This will be how the media frames it going forward: "see, Dems are trying to reopen the gov't and its the Republicans keeping it shut down." Never mind that the Reps have called a dozen plus votes and its the Dems stalling.

Total bull**** tactic by the Dems for leverage when they are out of power. They don't care how many people get screwed here out of their paychecks or are made less safe in the skies, they just care about raw naked power. They think the blue states staying blue somehow gave them a mandate and Schumer is trying dirty tricks to create a wedge issue before the mid-terms. **** them all to hell.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/verdict-with-ted-cruz/id1495601614?i=1000735762847

Have not listened but this was update right before vote.

RulesForTheeNotForMe said:

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Dan Scott said:

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Republicans have just rejected the Democrats offer to end the shutdown, per CBS

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) November 7, 2025

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Just saw the Democrats asked for a 1-yr extension to ACA subsidies. I wonder what happens in 1-yr from now? Oh... Another election! I can't believe the Democrats would use our Mid-Term elections as another deadline to force more Government socialism on everyone and use the media to help them promote "Republicans want to take away your healthcare if you don't vote for us in November 2026!" It's the exact reason why Dems had the current ACA subsidies expire in November 2025 under Joe Biden... Use it for the off-year elections.

Why is our country run by such dumb, immoral people? The vast majority of congress should be in prison at this point.

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That's the real answer. It is one of the most epically corrupt in history. Trump's coming in on a wave of even popular support is one of the boldest efforts that has occurred to fight such a thing, but may be in vain. There has not been any accountability for the political and press class all century, not least because of that pairing--the press runs interference for the political swamp rather than being watchdog against it.

ag94whoop said:

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I'm not sure if they are hurting or not. And I don't know if there is any really objective measures out there. Left leaning media says it's hurting republicans and right leaning media says it's hurting democrats. Who knows what the real truth is.

People are hurting for sure, but I am not sure if the national sentiment of moving one way or another. I do know if it lasts too long, people won't care about politics as it will be drastically affecting peoples lives…it will damage trust in BOTH parties

If Trump could find a workable workaround during this shutdown to pay govt employees and military at the very least, that would be a huge positive for a lot of people.

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He has an easy workaround for government employees. All government employees considered essential are getting paid. All that are considered nonessential are a waste of money, eliminate the position. Our government is the biggest employer on the planet and its overinflated. Claw back overinflated budgets and pay the military. My gripe is how can you consider the active military nonessential is ludicrous and they are paying Congress and their staff

Dan Scott said:

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Republicans have just rejected the Democrats offer to end the shutdown, per CBS

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) November 7, 2025

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Republicans balls have finally dropped and the Ags are 8-0..


What a year!!!

A federal judge ruled Friday that the Department of Education violated the First Amendment rights of some agency employees when it sent out-of-office messages on their behalf that blamed Democrats for the government shutdown. https://t.co/CLXkALdKU1

— WQOW 18 News (@WQOW) November 8, 2025

Weird. Seems the department message should be reflected in a department email.

This guy again

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The ruling from US District Judge Christopher Cooper is the latest court rebuke of controversial moves by the Trump administration during what has now become the longest shutdown in US history.

Cooper, an appointee of former President Barack Obama

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Speaking of non partisan good judge, have you looked in a mirror recently?

Why are federal courts open, during a shut down of the federal government?

BREAKING: Supreme Court issues emergency order temporarily blocking full SNAP food aid payments - AP

— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) November 8, 2025

Bingo! The SC needs to rein in this individual judge trying to force the Executive to compensate for a shortcoming of Congress.

That's not how it works.

Congress needs to authorize the funds for SNAP. Until they do, there is no SNAP money.

If you're a Dem dependent on SNAP, tell your Dem senator to get off their ass and vote for the clean CR.

Rapier108 said:

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A federal judge ruled Friday that the Department of Education violated the First Amendment rights of some agency employees when it sent out-of-office messages on their behalf that blamed Democrats for the government shutdown. https://t.co/CLXkALdKU1

— WQOW 18 News (@WQOW) November 8, 2025

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They should forward all calls to the Judges cell phone.

Seriously. I'm certainly no constitutional lawyer, but I couldn't for the life of me figure out how this could be in any way constitutional.

Democrats and their faux judges perfectly framed it for the weekend news cycle. The Soviets wished their press was this compliant. Corruption.

Democrat judges loathe the Constitution. Hussein sought that kind of judge out.