***Official Govt Shutdown Discussion***

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4stringAg
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DarkBrandon01 said:

When republican voters stop being able to afford healthcare, dems need to make it very clear whose fault it is.


The fault is with your party who in a partisan vote passed a giant turd called ACA that is anything but affordable and requires constant trillions in subsidies
Teslag
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MSNBC is pissed
B-1 83
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DarkBrandon01 said:

When republican voters stop being able to afford healthcare, dems need to make it very clear whose fault it is.

Who wrote the original subsidy bill with this cutoff and why?
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
MemphisAg1
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Teslag said:

MSNBC is pissed

That's how you know the Dems caved!
SwigAg11
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Is this voting for cloture for the CR or new legislation that would have to go back to the House?
Teslag
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That's literally how MSNBC is describing it

https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/news/senate-democrats-blink-shutdown-40-days-pain-rcna242937
Bird Poo
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MemphisAg1 said:

Teslag said:

MSNBC is pissed

That's how you know the Dems caved!


Yup. Their base would eat them alive if the bennies stopped. The GOP can learn a lot about this event.
redcrayon
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SwigAg11 said:

Is this voting for cloture for the CR or new legislation that would have to go back to the House?

Has to pass the House.
Ginormus Ag
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My 14-year-old son is pissed because Cornyn isn't there to vote. Is this true? I am watching football. But I am a proud dad.
ag94whoop
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So are they literally just waiting on Cornyn to show up from the airport and vote yes?
Gabster43213
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Good Lord! Where is he???
FireAg
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Teslag said:

That's literally how MSNBC is describing it

https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/news/senate-democrats-blink-shutdown-40-days-pain-rcna242937

If they ain't happy, then the Rs definitely won…
Decay
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Busy cooking his brisket I guess
Gabster43213
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I hope he doesn't like it well done.
FireAg
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Cloture just passed…
MAROON
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Senators and Reps typically leave DC on Thursday and come back Sunday night. They don't really work very hard at all.
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Zombie Jon Snow
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DarkBrandon01 said:

When republican voters stop being able to afford healthcare, dems need to make it very clear whose fault it is.

Republicans have insurance from jobs. Or no insurance and they don't care.
Zombie Jon Snow
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redcrayon said:

SwigAg11 said:

Is this voting for cloture for the CR or new legislation that would have to go back to the House?

Has to pass the House.


Simple majority there and Rs have the numbers.
Ellis Wyatt
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DarkBrandon01 said:

When republican voters stop being able to afford healthcare, dems need to make it very clear whose fault it is.
Government has no role in healthcare. Government makes NOTHING cheaper.
Ag with kids
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DarkBrandon01 said:

When republican voters stop being able to afford healthcare, dems need to make it very clear whose fault it is.

I'm pretty sure they all know that it's Obama's fault...
akm91
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Decay said:

DarkBrandon01 said:

When republican voters stop being able to afford healthcare, dems need to make it very clear whose fault it is.

Obama and ACA? And John McCain?


Don't forget Roberts role in how we got to this point.
MagnumLoad
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What did the republicans have to concede to get cloture passed?
I hate tu. It's in my blood.
YouBet
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MagnumLoad said:

What did the republicans have to concede to get cloture passed?


Sounds like they will rehire the deep state that were let go.
Ag with kids
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MagnumLoad said:

What did the republicans have to concede to get cloture passed?

Because they couldn't get to 60 without giving up something...



ETA: I read that as WHY, not what...

My bad.
jt2hunt
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DarkBrandon01
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Ellis Wyatt said:

DarkBrandon01 said:

When republican voters stop being able to afford healthcare, dems need to make it very clear whose fault it is.

Government has no role in healthcare. Government makes NOTHING cheaper.





Free market healthcare is a failed experiment
Teslag
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MagnumLoad said:

What did the republicans have to concede to get cloture passed?


Basically nothing. Democrats took the L and caved
ETFan
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Looks like they're trying, or will, slip in a 0.4mg Hemp ban, nationwide.

These ****ing clowns.
Ellis Wyatt
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We don't have free market healthcare. The government distorts it on every level. Hussein wants to take all of it.
backintexas2013
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It wasn't in the original now to get it passed all kinds of bs will be in it. Congrats Dems you got nothing and even ****ed over people all to try and bail out the wonderful Obamacare.
fc2112
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Great news.

Sounds like someone found - a - get ready for it....

txags92
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YouBet said:

MagnumLoad said:

What did the republicans have to concede to get cloture passed?


Sounds like they will rehire the deep state that were let go.

It was only the people fired after the shutdown started, not all of the people DOGEd.
chjoak
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Can you call it "free market healthcare" when the government is meddling in it?
backintexas2013
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We are unhealthy as a country
We spend more on end of life care
We count assisted living in the healthcare costs.


I strongly encourage you to travel maybe you will see its apples and oranges.
Zombie Jon Snow
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backintexas2013 said:

We are unhealthy as a country
We spend more on end of life care
We count assisted living in the healthcare costs.


I strongly encourage you to travel maybe you will see its apples and oranges.


We also effectively pay for the development of most of the advances in medicine and the technology for medical care.

These get built into the costs paid by our insurance to the companies that provide drugs and medical equipment. But without our investment medical treatment, drugs and technology would not have advanced the way they have.

The vast majority of medical advancements comes from the US.

  • The U.S. is the single largest contributor to medical research funding worldwide.
  • The U.S. leads in the number of new drugs, medical devices, and scientific discoveries approved and developed.
  • The U.S. has a particularly advanced biotechnology sector that has driven major breakthroughs.
  • U.S. government investment in basic science, such as through the NIH, has been crucial for the development of many new vaccines, treatments, and technologies, including gene editing.
 
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