Kimmel Off The Air

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Ryan the Temp said:

The Fairness Doctrine was established to avoid exactly the thing you folks are complaining about.

Here's a brief summary of its history:
https://www.reaganlibrary.gov/archives/topic-guide/fairness-doctrine




Since you make a living with your lips, define the word "fair" and who decides what fair is and how it applies?

The bottom line is that you want government to control speech, as long as it benefits your side.

Also, you've still not shown how the government forced ABC to fire Kimmel.
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annie88 said:

Ryan the Temp said:

I don't watch Kimmel, I don't think he's particularly funny, and what he said was astonishingly distasteful, but do we really want the government forcing the media to cancel or censor anything they don't approve of? That's a dark path to go down - Sure, a lot of you folks agree with today's Republican administration on this, but what happens when a Democratic administration comes into power and threatens to revoke FCC licenses for Fox News and other conservative media? As we like to say, Highway 6 runs both ways.

Whatever happened to the mantra of personal responsibility? I don't like Fox News, so ... I don't watch it. I also don't like MSNBC, so ... I don't watch it. I don't like Kimmel's show, so ... I don't watch it.


Interesting. People are OK with it one way, but not the other. And what Kimmel said is not just something disagreeable he flat out lie. And he's done this many times. Of course the left is trying to make it about Trump's getting everybody canceled that he doesn't like which is not true. Colbert lied constantly. He was also losing a lot of money on his show.

At the end of the day, these are all just failed actors that happened to stumble into talk shows. Just a few of many examples:






Perfect post, Annie. Yeah, seems like only yesterday that "muh disinformation" was the biggest omg existential threat to humanity (you know, things like statistics about the border, actual root causes behind gun statistics, etc.).

But now, talking heads should suddenly be allowed to have free rein to go on air and blatantly lie and gaslight?

Sorry, libs - in the words of your Supreme Leader, elections have consequences.
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Sorry, flat out lying to the public to set the political narrative is just not acceptable. Money people are finally coming around. Cry harder.
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Ryan the Temp said:

Kenneth_2003 said:

Interesting... Listening to Megyn Kelly's morning update right now. NexStar, who owns over 200 local ABC stations was answer planning to preempt the show last night before ABC/Disney pulled the plug.

Citing (and I'm not quoting verbatim) the show did not align with the standards and public interest and community values.

Free market solutions at work.



So was it the free market or the government who got Kimmel fired?
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smith mundt modernization(2012)...believe this is when the explosion of usaid money started flowing more directly into media to propagandize the american public. also took reins off the state department for what they could do to foreign media too. funny how all the color revolutions started popping up in short order

now we are fighting against a color revolution within our borders
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Rockdoc said:

Sorry, flat out lying to the public to set the political narrative is just not acceptable. Money people are finally coming around. Cry harder.

Show me where I said it was.
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He's just mad that one of his teammates is going to fry.
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Ryan the Temp said:

Logos Stick said:

Ryan the Temp said:

I don't watch Kimmel, I don't think he's particularly funny, and what he said was astonishingly distasteful, but do we really want the government forcing the media to cancel or censor anything they don't approve of? That's a dark path to go down - Sure, a lot of you folks agree with today's Republican administration on this, but what happens when a Democratic administration comes into power and threatens to revoke FCC licenses for Fox News and other conservative media? As we like to say, Highway 6 runs both ways.

Whatever happened to the mantra of personal responsibility? I don't like Fox News, so ... I don't watch it. I also don't like MSNBC, so ... I don't watch it. I don't like Kimmel's show, so ... I don't watch it.


No and that didn't happen. Can libs ever be honest?



yes, the FCC said they would take some type of action. Jimmy could've apologized, etc and that would've been fine. It is when carries decided to stop airing it is when crap got real. Disney is the one who decided to pull the plug on the show. there is a difference.
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Ryan the Temp said:

Rockdoc said:

Sorry, flat out lying to the public to set the political narrative is just not acceptable. Money people are finally coming around. Cry harder.

Show me where I said it was.

I didn't say you said anything did I?
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Can't wait for the reactions on this one
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Houston Lee said:

Horn_in_Aggieland said:



I think this one deserves its own thread just because he's such a jerk.

Its a stunt. Kimmel will be back on the air soon and his viewership will increase.

no it wont
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AustinCountyAg said:

Ryan the Temp said:

Logos Stick said:

Ryan the Temp said:

I don't watch Kimmel, I don't think he's particularly funny, and what he said was astonishingly distasteful, but do we really want the government forcing the media to cancel or censor anything they don't approve of? That's a dark path to go down - Sure, a lot of you folks agree with today's Republican administration on this, but what happens when a Democratic administration comes into power and threatens to revoke FCC licenses for Fox News and other conservative media? As we like to say, Highway 6 runs both ways.

Whatever happened to the mantra of personal responsibility? I don't like Fox News, so ... I don't watch it. I also don't like MSNBC, so ... I don't watch it. I don't like Kimmel's show, so ... I don't watch it.


No and that didn't happen. Can libs ever be honest?



yes, the FCC said they would take some type of action. Jimmy could've apologized, etc and that would've been fine. It is when carries decided to stop airing it is when crap got real. Disney is the one who decided to pull the plug on the show. there is a difference.



They weren't going to take action. They would have been laughed out of court.

Kimmel's firing had nothing to do with that threat of action. The affiliates were not going to air his show anymore. ABC wanted him gone for a long time because he was a money loser and this was their op to take him out.
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Logos Stick said:

Ryan the Temp said:

Kenneth_2003 said:

Interesting... Listening to Megyn Kelly's morning update right now. NexStar, who owns over 200 local ABC stations was answer planning to preempt the show last night before ABC/Disney pulled the plug.

Citing (and I'm not quoting verbatim) the show did not align with the standards and public interest and community values.

Free market solutions at work.



So was it the free market or the government who got Kimmel fired?

Scroll up to my earlier post with the tweet from Benny Johnson. He had the FCC chairman on his podcast, who implied the FCC would consider revoking affiliate broadcast licenses, which would be a direct act by the government. That's the piece I take issue with.

I have no problem with Disney yanking him off the air in response to their affiliates revolting over his conduct. That's a business decision they can make all day, any day. Yanking him off the air in response to threats from the government would be a wholly different situation.
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Ryan the Temp said:

Logos Stick said:

Ryan the Temp said:

Kenneth_2003 said:

Interesting... Listening to Megyn Kelly's morning update right now. NexStar, who owns over 200 local ABC stations was answer planning to preempt the show last night before ABC/Disney pulled the plug.

Citing (and I'm not quoting verbatim) the show did not align with the standards and public interest and community values.

Free market solutions at work.



So was it the free market or the government who got Kimmel fired?

Scroll up to my earlier post with the tweet from Benny Johnson. He had the FCC chairman on his podcast, who implied the FCC would consider revoking affiliate broadcast licenses, which would be a direct act by the government. That's the piece I take issue with.

I have no problem with Disney yanking him off the air in response to their affiliates revolting over his conduct. That's a business decision they can make all day, any day. Yanking him off the air in response to threats from the government would be a wholly different situation.


see my post above yours.
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Rockdoc said:

Ryan the Temp said:

Rockdoc said:

Sorry, flat out lying to the public to set the political narrative is just not acceptable. Money people are finally coming around. Cry harder.

Show me where I said it was.

I didn't say you said anything did I?

Good. We're on the same page, apparently.
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Ryan the Temp said:

Rockdoc said:

Ryan the Temp said:

Rockdoc said:

Sorry, flat out lying to the public to set the political narrative is just not acceptable. Money people are finally coming around. Cry harder.

Show me where I said it was.

I didn't say you said anything did I?

Good. We're on the same page, apparently.

Somehow I doubt it.
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People lie, distort truth, push narratives, and push ideologies all the time. It's human nature that belongs to every religious or political spectrum on the planet.

Kimmel is just a trash evening show. It's not presented as a news show………it's just a pseudo entertainment show. If the free market allows it to survive, then so be it. As long as the show does nor break any laws, the government shouldn't get involved. So what if he's telling a lie and deflecting the truth. Hell……..politicians lie all the time. Trump certainly does.

The cancel culture the democrats introduced and pushed upon us was F ing stupid. So is this.
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fav13andac1)c said:



Can't wait for the reactions on this one


Gold Jerry!
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Logos Stick said:

Ryan the Temp said:

Logos Stick said:

Ryan the Temp said:

Kenneth_2003 said:

Interesting... Listening to Megyn Kelly's morning update right now. NexStar, who owns over 200 local ABC stations was answer planning to preempt the show last night before ABC/Disney pulled the plug.

Citing (and I'm not quoting verbatim) the show did not align with the standards and public interest and community values.

Free market solutions at work.



So was it the free market or the government who got Kimmel fired?

Scroll up to my earlier post with the tweet from Benny Johnson. He had the FCC chairman on his podcast, who implied the FCC would consider revoking affiliate broadcast licenses, which would be a direct act by the government. That's the piece I take issue with.

I have no problem with Disney yanking him off the air in response to their affiliates revolting over his conduct. That's a business decision they can make all day, any day. Yanking him off the air in response to threats from the government would be a wholly different situation.


see my post above yours.

Question - Do you at least see how the FCC chairman jumping into the mix on this send that particular message? He could have stayed out of it and the outcome would have likely been the same without giving people an opening to criticize the administration.
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Ryan the Temp said:

Logos Stick said:

Ryan the Temp said:

Logos Stick said:

Ryan the Temp said:

Kenneth_2003 said:

Interesting... Listening to Megyn Kelly's morning update right now. NexStar, who owns over 200 local ABC stations was answer planning to preempt the show last night before ABC/Disney pulled the plug.

Citing (and I'm not quoting verbatim) the show did not align with the standards and public interest and community values.

Free market solutions at work.



So was it the free market or the government who got Kimmel fired?

Scroll up to my earlier post with the tweet from Benny Johnson. He had the FCC chairman on his podcast, who implied the FCC would consider revoking affiliate broadcast licenses, which would be a direct act by the government. That's the piece I take issue with.

I have no problem with Disney yanking him off the air in response to their affiliates revolting over his conduct. That's a business decision they can make all day, any day. Yanking him off the air in response to threats from the government would be a wholly different situation.


see my post above yours.

Question - Do you at least see how the FCC chairman jumping into the mix on this send that particular message? He could have stayed out of it and the outcome would have likely been the same without giving people an opening to criticize the administration.

That wasn't for me, but I'll agree with that. FCC chairman should not have gone on a show and said anything.
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Quote:

Since you make a living with your lips, define the word "fair" and who decides what fair is and how it applies?


I don't think you know what I do. You have the ability to Google the entire text of the Fairness Doctrine statute. Feel free to do so.
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The bottom line is that you want government to control speech, as long as it benefits your side.

Please show me where I said that.
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Agree as well. That was the wrong time to spike the football.
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Ryan the Temp said:

Logos Stick said:

Ryan the Temp said:

Logos Stick said:

Ryan the Temp said:

Kenneth_2003 said:

Interesting... Listening to Megyn Kelly's morning update right now. NexStar, who owns over 200 local ABC stations was answer planning to preempt the show last night before ABC/Disney pulled the plug.

Citing (and I'm not quoting verbatim) the show did not align with the standards and public interest and community values.

Free market solutions at work.



So was it the free market or the government who got Kimmel fired?

Scroll up to my earlier post with the tweet from Benny Johnson. He had the FCC chairman on his podcast, who implied the FCC would consider revoking affiliate broadcast licenses, which would be a direct act by the government. That's the piece I take issue with.

I have no problem with Disney yanking him off the air in response to their affiliates revolting over his conduct. That's a business decision they can make all day, any day. Yanking him off the air in response to threats from the government would be a wholly different situation.


see my post above yours.

Question - Do you at least see how the FCC chairman jumping into the mix on this send that particular message? He could have stayed out of it and the outcome would have likely been the same without giving people an opening to criticize the administration.



Agree with this. FCC overstepped. Unless Kimmel was advocating violence, not just stupidity, it's not the governments problem. Let the market decide, which in this case ultimately did happen.

If Kimmel was actually a popular money making show, he'd still be on the air. Same as Colbert. But the reality is that late night talk shows lost their minds in 2016 and let their TDS take over. We used to flip between late night shows depending upon the guest or the bit, or even during commercial breaks. But at the end of the day very few people watching those shows were watching them becuase they wanted to see angry people talk politics.

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Horn_in_Aggieland said:



I think this one deserves its own thread just because he's such a jerk.

It's funny that Jimmy Kimmel doesn't have respect for a man who continues to do his job despite his emotions. Kind of like using emotions to make decisions is never the best policy.

Hopefully this experience with Kimmel being fired will help Kimmel understand that better.
It takes a special kind of brainwashed useful idiot to politically defend government fraud, waste, and abuse.
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True or False?

ABC had the right to fire Roseanne Barr over a tweet back in 2018.

What say you?
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FireAg said:

True or False?

ABC had the right to fire Roseanne Barr over a tweet back in 2018.

What say you?

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Ryan the Temp said:

Logos Stick said:

Ryan the Temp said:

Logos Stick said:

Ryan the Temp said:

Kenneth_2003 said:

Interesting... Listening to Megyn Kelly's morning update right now. NexStar, who owns over 200 local ABC stations was answer planning to preempt the show last night before ABC/Disney pulled the plug.

Citing (and I'm not quoting verbatim) the show did not align with the standards and public interest and community values.

Free market solutions at work.



So was it the free market or the government who got Kimmel fired?

Scroll up to my earlier post with the tweet from Benny Johnson. He had the FCC chairman on his podcast, who implied the FCC would consider revoking affiliate broadcast licenses, which would be a direct act by the government. That's the piece I take issue with.

I have no problem with Disney yanking him off the air in response to their affiliates revolting over his conduct. That's a business decision they can make all day, any day. Yanking him off the air in response to threats from the government would be a wholly different situation.


see my post above yours.

Question - Do you at least see how the FCC chairman jumping into the mix on this send that particular message? He could have stayed out of it and the outcome would have likely been the same without giving people an opening to criticize the administration.


This is a very fair point which I don't know how anyone could disagree with it.

The market was already moving on this and the outcome was set. The FCC chair spouting off muddied the waters and gave cover to the left to complain about state action against free speech when it was really private action.
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Condoning someone being assassinated for speech is crossing a line. That is effectively what Kimmel did. He could have said nothing or he could have condemned violence. Instead, he basically chose to blame Kirk and his allies for Kirk's assassination. That is affirming the action. It has no business on our airwaves, much less in a prime evening time slot on network television.

Kimmel FA. And he's too stupid to learn any lessons. He'll just grow more unhinged like Olbermann.
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Anyone think that the networks were maybe a little tired of these late night shows anyway, and looking for a reason to ax them?

The canceling seems a little too easy.
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I understand the MSM putting the Jimmy Kimmel news on the front page, but folks who are offended by comments like his and many others don't watch their shows anyway.
It is time to put the chairs in the wagon
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FireAg said:

True or False?

ABC had the right to fire Roseanne Barr over a tweet back in 2018.

What say you?

True. ABC had the right to make that business decision. I can't find anything that would indicate the FCC chairman waded into that situation. If he did, feel free to share.

I should take this moment to say that for anyone who thinks I am only interested in one "side," I ask why you think I'm still here on F16. I personally believe there is value in being exposed to opposing perspectives, and while I frequently disagree with folks on F16, I find it to be an informative and overall enriching experience.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

Condoning someone being assassinated for speech is crossing a line. That is effectively what Kimmel did. He could have said nothing or he could have condemned violence. Instead, he basically chose to blame Kirk and his allies for Kirk's assassination. That is affirming the action. It has no business on our airwaves, much less in a prime evening time slot on network television.

Kimmel FA. And he's too stupid to learn any lessons. He'll just grow more unhinged like Olbermann.


It is quite a stretch to say Kimmel condoned the actions.
 
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