Where were you when your side was controlling the content on Twitter, social media, and news?

I don't remember your Paul Revere ride through the politics board.

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Take your gaslighting back to Reddit where you guys all sniff your own farts, we're not falling for it here.

Also this stupid act of "wait till the pendulum swings" is moronic. Did you sleep through joes entire presidency? Trump was literally kicked off Twitter and you idiots cheered about muh pRIvAte CoMpaNY rIGhtS.

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That POS administration tried to force a vaccine on people using a govt agency or else you lost your job. And many people did. They had a year's worth of data and still made that, using their terms, fascist decision.

Count me as not too concerned when the pendulum swings, we've been all the way to the left already.

I'm fine with a company pulling someone off the air because of complaints from advertisers, viewers, etc. Government even merely suggesting a company do it is a red line.

They're not forgetting. Theirs gaslighting. All they do is lie. About everything.

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The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.

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The last admin: "We are super transparentist of ever and have never encouraged censorship...." and we then see all the media collusion of censorship once the light is turned on.

This admin: We're going to look at these potential violations.

D's lied and continue to lie about their media collusion. R's are at least telling you what they're doing. You only know what a D is doing by listening to what he says bad about an R.

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Where were you when your side was controlling the content on Twitter, social media, and news?

I don't remember your Paul Revere ride through the politics board.

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Hilarious comment, but sadly and pathetically true.


Next up: A lecture on the merits of 2A.

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I'm fine with a company pulling someone off the air because of complaints from advertisers, viewers, etc. Government even merely suggesting a company do it is a red line.

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Well said.

CK was murdered and it was wrong and should be condemned.

Anyone celebrating the murder should be condemned.

A television personality overdoing it and upsetting advertisers, etc. and a company terminating him/her is fine. "Read the room" type deal.

Trump saying, publicly, that they are going to "pull the license" of networks that criticize him too much is authoritarian strong man garbage. The Fairness Doctrine was eliminated in the 1980s by Reagan. A show can blast 100% of the time against Obama, Biden, Trump, DeSantis, Newsome, whomever they want. We have defamation laws to police that if it goes too far. The threat of "pulling their license" is as bad as actually doing it. That is third-world country authoritarian strong man type bull*****

Where's the order? is as dumb as pointing a gun in someone's face but then saying, "where's the bullet?"

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He said the same kind of stuff last night on Hannity. Talked about how they are going to start enforcing the public interest obligation for network licenses. Who gets to define what's in the best public interest? And what does that mean when we have another dem president?

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"They're gonna do it too!" just doesn't hit the same way when they've already been doing it for decades.

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And that's why I don't vote for them…..
I voted for the guy that said the era of media censorship is over only to watch his FCC chair all but brag about threatening media censorship.

ABC pulled Kimmel due to bad ratings and this was their off-ramp.

Cry harder

It's funny that some people get so worked up over Trump's words or threats...but then dismiss the multitude of ACTIONS by the previous administrations.

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The Trump administration is certainly taking a page from the Rahm Immanuel school of not letting a crisis go to waste. Kimmel and other left leaning comedians were targeted for silencing and now the dominoes are falling. T&P for free speech. Democrats are licking their chops at getting to use this new, unconstitutional power that Trump has normalized.

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Where have you been the last 5 years?

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The Trump administration is certainly taking a page from the Rahm Immanuel school of not letting a crisis go to waste. Kimmel and other left leaning comedians were targeted for silencing and now the dominoes are falling. T&P for free speech. Democrats are licking their chops at getting to use this new, unconstitutional power that Trump has normalized.

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Careful, your hands will cramp from clutching your pearls so hard.

This was free markets at work, not imagined assaults on free speech.

TV stations threw Kimmel under the bus, not the Trump Administration

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You're wrong. The Trump-appointed FCC chair pressured ABC and they caved. This administration has masterfully used the crisis to further divide our society and undermine freedom of speech. HTH.

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No, YOU'RE wrong. Kimmel violated clear FCC rules by making **** up and gaslighting the public as to the motives of Charlie Kirk's assassin. Not as a joke, but as an absolute statement that is demonstrably false.

All the FCC chair did was indicate in an interview that Kimmel's behavior was worth opening an investigation concerning a clear, provable violation of FCC rules. In other words, the FCC chair was actually doing his job.

Your misguided claim of a first amendment violation is the same as alleging that a law enforcement officer is violating a law breaker's rights when an investigation is opened into a crime.

Sorry, Bud. It doesn't work that way.

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Well said

The absolute irony of Corolla being red-pilled while Kimmel goes off the deep end to just lie to his audience and intentionally get fired about factual matters is sorta off the charts for me.

The cow that payed for the Steele Dossier doesn’t like propaganda https://t.co/PDMv6VRoVv

— Adam Carolla (@adamcarolla) September 19, 2025

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Jimmy mad! jimmy is going to take down ABC

So Jimmy Kimmel thinks he going to get important people—every friend he has—to stop doing business with ABC/Disney/FX/Hulu?

I think Mr. Kimmel might be overestimating his influence. pic.twitter.com/TeKZ4tLx0s

— John Carney (@carney) September 19, 2025

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Ooooh. You don't want to see Jimmy mad!

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I'm fine with a company pulling someone off the air because of complaints from advertisers, viewers, etc. Government even merely suggesting a company do it is a red line.

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We are playing by your rules now.

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HTownAg98 said:

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I'm fine with a company pulling someone off the air because of complaints from advertisers, viewers, etc. Government even merely suggesting a company do it is a red line.

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Well said.

CK was murdered and it was wrong and should be condemned.

Anyone celebrating the murder should be condemned.

A television personality overdoing it and upsetting advertisers, etc. and a company terminating him/her is fine. "Read the room" type deal.

Trump saying, publicly, that they are going to "pull the license" of networks that criticize him too much is authoritarian strong man garbage. The Fairness Doctrine was eliminated in the 1980s by Reagan. A show can blast 100% of the time against Obama, Biden, Trump, DeSantis, Newsome, whomever they want. We have defamation laws to police that if it goes too far. The threat of "pulling their license" is as bad as actually doing it. That is third-world country authoritarian strong man type bull*****

Where's the order? is as dumb as pointing a gun in someone's face but then saying, "where's the bullet?"

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I really have no problem with someone cracking a whip at the MSM propaganda outlets. They've spread lies for the Democrats for decades and had a major influence on the low-IQ trans and gay people that have done many school shootings and now the assasination of Charlie Kirk, one of the greatest proponents of free speech we have ever seen.

Keep in mind also, Schumer is threatening a government shutdown down unless NPR funding is fully restored (among 'a few' other outrageous demands). Propaganda press is a high priority item right now to the left.

They are also apoplectic about CNN possibly going to a 'right wing' new owner (Ellison), after losing out on X, and CBS now being not fully communist compliant. A monopoly on information dissemination is always a priority to leftists, whether that is in Russia, Brazil, Germany, or anywhere else.

Dan Pfeiffer, who was one of Barack Obama’s top aides, is warning that “the right — Larry Ellison — now owns CBS. The right is now trying to buy TikTok and the Ellisons are trying to buy CNN. So  this is very alarming to Dan Pfeiffer, who says we need to do something about this,”… pic.twitter.com/TNao2svsyj

— 2WAY (@2waytvapp) September 19, 2025

Again, I'd note how threatening the left, including top current Democrats like Schumer/Jeffries/Pelosi, but also has-beens like Obama and his cabinet were toward licenses for so-called conservatives during time periods when they had regulatory power. It's not hard to dig up those quotes/posts, and there are A LOT of them.

Chuck Schumer on CNN explaining why he thinks Washington can and should tell Rupert Murdoch and Fox News what they can and cannot say:

"We not only have a right to tell Rupert Murdoch and Fox what to do, but an obligation." 🤮🤮🤮 pic.twitter.com/OUcp3svybg

— SweetPeaBelle (@SweetPeaBell326) April 24, 2023

Cry me a river, leftists.

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ABC pulled Kimmel due to bad ratings and this was their off-ramp.

Cry harder

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That's what I said consistently throughout the thread. Pulling Kimmel was a business decision.

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Then why are you banging pots?

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Someone's gotta!

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Maybe next time try it with a well thought out, educated take instead of what you did earlier. When you come with an ignorant take, nobody here is going to take you seriously whether you're on the right or the left.

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Why would I put forward genuine discourse when no respect is granted either way? Look at the language used to talk about people who disagree with the majority's sentiment. You do it too. No thank you.

Oh, this one is rich… apparently Kimmel was concerned about "lies"

January, 2024. After Aaron Rodgers insinuated that Jimmy Kimmel might be on some Epstein list, Kimmel responded by saying that you can't just make stuff up about people.

Kimmel: "We don't make up lies. We have a team of people who work very hard to sift through facts before I… pic.twitter.com/tnL1KfBTmL

— MAZE (@mazemoore) September 18, 2025

"This Week in Unnecessary Censorship" was one of Kimmel's most popular segments.

How ironic that he unnecessarily censored himself from his own show on late night television.

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Jimmy mad! jimmy is going to take down ABC

So Jimmy Kimmel thinks he going to get important people—every friend he has—to stop doing business with ABC/Disney/FX/Hulu?

I think Mr. Kimmel might be overestimating his influence. pic.twitter.com/TeKZ4tLx0s

— John Carney (@carney) September 19, 2025

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How very Olbermann of Mr. Kimmel. I wish Jimmy the same level of success Keith has enjoyed moving forward.

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I'm fine with a company pulling someone off the air because of complaints from advertisers, viewers, etc. Government even merely suggesting a company do it is a red line.

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Well said.

CK was murdered and it was wrong and should be condemned.

Anyone celebrating the murder should be condemned.

A television personality overdoing it and upsetting advertisers, etc. and a company terminating him/her is fine. "Read the room" type deal.

Trump saying, publicly, that they are going to "pull the license" of networks that criticize him too much is authoritarian strong man garbage. The Fairness Doctrine was eliminated in the 1980s by Reagan. A show can blast 100% of the time against Obama, Biden, Trump, DeSantis, Newsome, whomever they want. We have defamation laws to police that if it goes too far. The threat of "pulling their license" is as bad as actually doing it. That is third-world country authoritarian strong man type bull*****

Where's the order? is as dumb as pointing a gun in someone's face but then saying, "where's the bullet?"

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I really have no problem with someone cracking a whip at the MSM propaganda outlets. They've spread lies for the Democrats for decades and had a major influence on the low-IQ trans and gay people that have done many school shootings and now the assasination of Charlie Kirk, one of the greatest proponents of free speech we have ever seen.

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A nut job killed CK, so now our government is going to act like China, Russia, North Korea, etc... and shut all media it doesn't like down because Dear Leader is thin skinned and can't handle criticism.

So even after the abolition of the Fairness Doctrine, you would have been fine if they "cracked the whip" and shut down Fox News when it started up?

Apparently, the Free Speech and "let the market handle it" guys are fine with big government authoritarianism now.

And I'll say again, Kimmel deserved to be fired. Anyone who crossed the line with CK deserved to be fired by their employer. The government using this as a reason to use laws that were repealed to attack the First Amendment is not ok.

He is saying can make sure no one goes on the View, shut it down. And thats a threat. Puzzling.

https://instagr.am/p/DOwuauwko2y

agreed which is why we all called out Bondi for the statements she made

Absolutely right, just not subject to FCC licenses. People can lie/say anything they want, and deal with the consequences, as Tucker Carlson and so many others have shown.

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Great dude and spot on.

"the FCC does not have a roving mandate to police speech in the name of the 'public interest.'"

Source? Some no-name Lib named Brendan Carr

Still not seeing the government shutting down free speech. I'll hang up and listen

If you want genuine discourse, come with a take that's not objectively wrong.

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I'm fine with a company pulling someone off the air because of complaints from advertisers, viewers, etc. Government even merely suggesting a company do it is a red line.

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Well said.

CK was murdered and it was wrong and should be condemned.

Anyone celebrating the murder should be condemned.

A television personality overdoing it and upsetting advertisers, etc. and a company terminating him/her is fine. "Read the room" type deal.

Trump saying, publicly, that they are going to "pull the license" of networks that criticize him too much is authoritarian strong man garbage. The Fairness Doctrine was eliminated in the 1980s by Reagan. A show can blast 100% of the time against Obama, Biden, Trump, DeSantis, Newsome, whomever they want. We have defamation laws to police that if it goes too far. The threat of "pulling their license" is as bad as actually doing it. That is third-world country authoritarian strong man type bull*****

Where's the order? is as dumb as pointing a gun in someone's face but then saying, "where's the bullet?"

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I really have no problem with someone cracking a whip at the MSM propaganda outlets. They've spread lies for the Democrats for decades and had a major influence on the low-IQ trans and gay people that have done many school shootings and now the assasination of Charlie Kirk, one of the greatest proponents of free speech we have ever seen.

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A nut job killed CK, so now our government is going to act like China, Russia, North Korea, etc... and shut all media it doesn't like down because Dear Leader is thin skinned and can't handle criticism.

So even after the abolition of the Fairness Doctrine, you would have been fine if they "cracked the whip" and shut down Fox News when it started up?

Apparently, the Free Speech and "let the market handle it" guys are fine with big government authoritarianism now.

And I'll say again, Kimmel deserved to be fired. Anyone who crossed the line with CK deserved to be fired by their employer. The government using this as a reason to use laws that were repealed to attack the First Amendment is not ok.

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Here is what you are refusing to see...

Rosanne Barr and Gina Carano were both fired for making statements on THEIR OWN PERSONAL social media accounts.

Jimmy Kimmel made his divisive, knowingly false statements ON HIS SHOW. On the public airwaves. That we ALL pay for. Kimmel has a heightened responsibility to at least TRY to be factually correct in that forum. What he says on his social media account can be argued as a First Amendment issue. (But be prepared to consider the actions against Barr & Carano if you do so.)

ABC has the privilege of broadcasting on public airwaves through a lease, and the leaseholder has rules that should be followed. They're pretty easy rules. Don't knowingly lie. Have your actions be in the public interest. At least give an attempt to try to be fair.

Kimmel has gotten more and more partisan as time has gone on. So has the View. If they want to continue to have the PUBLIC platform to do so, then they need to follow the rules of the platform. If not, private cable networks are still available to them.

Again, this is NOT a first amendment issue. It is a publicly funded platform issue. And that's where Kimmel's "rights" ended and his RESPONSIBILITY began.

HTH.

ETA: You're also hanging your hat on the Fairness Doctrine. That is a flawed premise and a misdirect. Go back and read the FCC rules to have the privilege of broadcasting on public airways. They are listed multiple times in this thread.

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What we are witnessing is Free Speech and "let the market handle it". Kimmel was yanked off the air by his bosses. What we are also seeing is the gov't investigating anyone that promotes violence via their speech. Please show me where the gov't actually violated someone's right to free speech.

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Then why are you banging pots?

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Someone's gotta!

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Maybe next time try it with a well thought out, educated take instead of what you did earlier. When you come with an ignorant take, nobody here is going to take you seriously whether you're on the right or the left.

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Why would I put forward genuine discourse when no respect is granted either way? Look at the language used to talk about people who disagree with the majority's sentiment. You do it too. No thank you.

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Then why even come to F16. Just to troll? You obviously aren't looking for honest discussion.

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Still not seeing the government shutting down free speech. I'll hang up and listen

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You're fine with State media? Pulling the license of all the networks who publish criticism you don't like results in State media.

Not posting this for the tweet or whatever lib posted it, but for the audio of Donald Trump. He said it.

The Fairness Doctrine was eliminated by Ronald Reagan. A network is allowed to "hit Trump" and have that be "all they do." That is LEGAL.

Kimmel being fired had nothing to do with the First Amendment. What Trump just said does. That is the government shutting down speech in the current town square, i.e., people's TV sets. Bad Trump.

D. Trump declares that media outlets that constantly criticize him daily should potentially lose their license. Journalists describe an atmosphere of fear in newsrooms.

THIS IS NOT NORMAL‼️if you do nothing you are complicit.
pic.twitter.com/d9JGXSQBei

— TheFrenchie (@ML3democrats) September 19, 2025