Those perp pics definitely don't match...
United Healthcare CEO shot and killed in NYC
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What a joke of a reward. UHC should offer the multi-million dollar bonus the dude would have received.
Bound to be some DNA evidence somewhere. Especially if reports are true that he left a water bottle at the scene and dropped a cell phone.Pumpkinhead said:
They will soon identify this guy if haven't already. In these digital times with cell phones and video cameras everywhere, extremely difficult to get clean away with something like this.
Two things I learned from the Murdaugh trial is that they can detect DNA on just about anything now and your cell phone tracks your every more.
Any of these and he's toast:
If he had his personal cell phone connected to towers or with wifi/bluetooth enabled.
If he got DNA on a burner phone, shell casings, or water bottle.
If he rented an ebike without using a prepaid card.
If that's really his face in those photos.
If he had any prior communication (threats or otherwise) with the CEO.
If he had taken any legal action against UHC.
If they find the gun or suppressor.
Or 1 claim denial reversal.
Trust that the state will get their man. It may not be the perpetrator, but they'll get their man. It reminds me of Fahrenheit 451.
I wish I was a messenger, and all the news was good. Eddie V.
General Jack D. Ripper said:
Trust that the state will get their man. It may not be the perpetrator, but they'll get their man. It reminds me of Fahrenheit 451.
From the social media vibes, there will be more of these. It's like blood in the water with sharks. I'm pretty shocked as to the reactions. It's more of a "good job" reaction than any shock at all
Only reason I kind of want one on a handgun is so in the event I must use it in our home to defend my family, it doesn't permanently damage anyone's hearing.aggieforester05 said:It's really more of a novelty than anything on a pistol. There's just not many practical applications for them outside of shooting at your private range without annoying your neighbors or assassination. They're long and unwieldy, don't fit in a holster and are usually too long to fit in a hand safe in your bedroom. They also typically have to be carefully threaded onto your pistol unlike a rifle with a quick detach fitting. They can also reduce the reliability of a gun you use to protect your life and the back pressure will cause a lot of soot to build up internally.Kenneth_2003 said:
Good into, thanks
Still haven't made the jump into the DD world. Have one threaded 9mm that's ready, just haven't taken the plunge yet.
They are a game changer on rifles though. Once you start shooting rifles suppressed, you will not want to shoot them any other way. The high velocity rifles will still be very loud and require hearing protection, but suppressors take a lot of the edge off. Shooting subs is a lot of fun. Even then the action of the gun can be pretty loud and I prefer wearing Ear Pro.
22 with standard velocity ammo is the way to go if you want movie quiet and is just a blast to shoot. Suppressors on 22 pistols make a lot more sense than the bigger calibers.
I hate that this guy used one, because it is bad for the 2A community and the efforts to overturn the NFA classification of suppressors. They are a muffler just like we are legally required to have on a car. It gives the left ammunition to label them as dangerous and unusual in the court of public opinion. I hope it turns out to be Chineseium and not a registered NFA item.
MarkTwain said:lunchbox said:
Different backpack different coat curious as to how they are tying this guy to the perp
Not to be a crazy conspiracy theorist, but, as someone who has eyeballs... what? pic.twitter.com/X6gafAPKJr
— 9mmSMG (@9mm_smg) December 5, 2024
I feel like I am taking crazy pills here. How do they think this is the same person?
OnlyForNow said:
It's 100% a different jacket.
The brand/whatever tag on the left breast pocket is vertical in the pictures with no mask on and horizontal in the pictures with mask on.
Top it off that it probably isn't the same color.
Different jacket and back pack. These are not the same people.
Tom Fox said:
The answer is simple. Eliminate health insurance. You pay cash when you are treated and let the free market dictate pricing.
It will be cheaper for everyone and save us trillions in tax revenue.
No. Just nationalize it like every other first world country. No insurance, no private equity, no profit.
Nanomachines son said:MarkTwain said:lunchbox said:
Different backpack different coat curious as to how they are tying this guy to the perpNot to be a crazy conspiracy theorist, but, as someone who has eyeballs... what? pic.twitter.com/X6gafAPKJr
— 9mmSMG (@9mm_smg) December 5, 2024
I feel like I am taking crazy pills here. How do they think this is the same person?
I mean that's different people
Didn't we hear reports he changed clothes? His backpack was big enough to hold a chance of coats.
aggiedata said:
Didn't we hear reports he changed clothes? His backpack was big enough to hold a chance of coats.
That's only logical.
They have zero idea who this person is
Or just offer "decent" insurance coverage for life, plus life insurance.OnlyForNow said:
What a joke of a reward. UHC should offer the multi-million dollar bonus the dude would have received.
THREE different people to be exact. Just to make sure we are on the same page.TAMUallen said:Nanomachines son said:MarkTwain said:lunchbox said:
Different backpack different coat curious as to how they are tying this guy to the perpNot to be a crazy conspiracy theorist, but, as someone who has eyeballs... what? pic.twitter.com/X6gafAPKJr
— 9mmSMG (@9mm_smg) December 5, 2024
I feel like I am taking crazy pills here. How do they think this is the same person?
I mean that's different people
Nanomachines son said:Quo Vadis? said:I understand it. It's the same thought I had when I saw members of congress cowering under the tables in the Senate building during the Jan 6 hubbub. "These people are finally realizing that the decisions they make on a daily basis have real life consequences".Nanomachines son said:Another lesson from today: there is a reserve of popular support for targeted action against members of the ruling class who are personally responsible for mass suffering. The only people condemning the assassination are techcels and vox editors lmao
— Unity of Fields (@unityoffields) December 5, 2024Sentiment as I’m monitoring it is that a significant percentage of people view the shooting of the health insurance CEO as being either justified or mortally defensible. Don’t kill the messenger, that’s what I’m reading all over on Instagram.
— Cernovich (@Cernovich) December 5, 2024
It's bipartisan too. People really really hate health insurance companies.
For many modern society has been structured around disassociating consequences from actions.
Congress votes to send a bunch of American kids to war, while ensuring their's will never have to go.
A big company decides to close down a manufacturing plant to make an extra 15% by offshoring to a 3rd world country, without worrying about where the employees will go.
An insurance company denies coverage due to some loophole on a policy that's been paid into for 10 years, to make sure they hit their EPS target, and a mother dies.
There is a huge unholy alliance between big finance/insurance of obscenely rich people who produce nothing and get paid from manipulation. Their actions cause countless deaths and injuries (as has been detailed on this thread) and they think they're insulated from the consequences because "i have a fiduciary duty to the shareholders".
The social contract is fraying.
Yep, I don't think anyone is ready for the consequences of the social contract between elites and average citizens breaking. Previously elites held loyalty to the regular people and were Patriotic/loyalists. Now these people hold loyalty only to themselves and exist to fleece the general public for additional power, control, and money. The average person knows this too so the only thing holding it together is that the average person continues to increase their own wealth and improve their own lives. The instant the average person encounters hardship and life gets worse for them that social contract will begin to fray. Covid absolutely blew the doors off of this contract and many have never recovered from it so the anger is building.
At some point people will begin targeting elites who control those systems that wronged them and the average person will likely cheer it on.
The difference now in comparison to say the French Revolution or Russian Revolution is that there is no counter elite to paint the targets. It's ground up grassroots anger because the elites can't control the flow of information anymore. The future could easily devolve into one of complete chaos if the elites don't stop pressing the average people.
Just wait until the elites start pardoning friends and family for serious crimes that the rest of us go to jail for.
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Second guy's kinda cute...pretty soon gals will be protecting Shooter Bae with their lives and Stanley cups.
Yes, that will help improve the quality of doctors and nurses who enter the field. Lol.DarkBrandon01 said:Tom Fox said:
The answer is simple. Eliminate health insurance. You pay cash when you are treated and let the free market dictate pricing.
It will be cheaper for everyone and save us trillions in tax revenue.
No. Just nationalize it like every other first world country. No insurance, no private equity, no profit.
That guy in the middle is probably sweating it hard right now. Lol
I wish I was a messenger, and all the news was good. Eddie V.
What do you mean "wait"?
I wish I was a messenger, and all the news was good. Eddie V.
Based on the initial photos shown......the one showing the victim being shot in the back, and the assassin escaping on a bike.......aggiedata said:
Didn't we hear reports he changed clothes? His backpack was big enough to hold a chance of coats.
I don't see how it is determined the perp is a male.
One of the newer photos show what looks like a girl......trans maybe?
They don't even look like the same person.
Interesting for sure.
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Tell me you've never spoke to ANYONE from a country with nationalized health care without telling me.DarkBrandon01 said:Tom Fox said:
The answer is simple. Eliminate health insurance. You pay cash when you are treated and let the free market dictate pricing.
It will be cheaper for everyone and save us trillions in tax revenue.
No. Just nationalize it like every other first world country. No insurance, no private equity, no profit.
My employer has offices in both Houston, Ontario, & Alberta. I cross the border to work on projects regularly. The Canadians come to the US regularly. EVERY one of them would love to have the system we have.
One short Google search, 'healthcare canada wait times"
I spent 30 seconds looking
https://www.cihi.ca/en/wait-times-for-priority-procedures-in-canada-2024
Do you want to wait 6 months for a hip replacement?Quote:
- Between April and September 2023, fewer patients received a hip or knee replacement within the recommended 6 months compared with the same period in 2019
- Cataract surgery wait times have returned to pre-pandemic levels, with 70% of patients treated within the recommended 112 days in 2023
- Median wait times were 2 to 4 days longer for breast, bladder, colorectal and lung cancer surgeries in 2023 than in 2019, and 11 days longer for prostate cancer surgery
- Between April and September 2023, median wait times were 7 days longer for MRI scans and 4 days longer for CT scans compared with the same period in 2019.
Do you want to wait 4 months for cataract surgery?
THIS IS AFTER YOU GET TO SEE A DR THAT DETERMINES YOU NEED THE PROCEDURE AND QUALIFY FOR IT!
Now, come back and defend your post. Or is this your typical click-by troll job? (First and only post in 4 days)
General Jack D. Ripper said:
What do you mean "wait"?
Winky face?
Well they asked for a $1M reward but UHC denied it.
Can we not turn this thread into a universal Healthcare discussion. Just ignore the troll
TAMUallen said:Nanomachines son said:MarkTwain said:lunchbox said:
Different backpack different coat curious as to how they are tying this guy to the perpNot to be a crazy conspiracy theorist, but, as someone who has eyeballs... what? pic.twitter.com/X6gafAPKJr
— 9mmSMG (@9mm_smg) December 5, 2024
I feel like I am taking crazy pills here. How do they think this is the same person?
I mean that's different people
Different jacket…
Different hood material…
Different backpack color…
Do authorities really think people are that dumb?
That ain't the same clothing/bacpack as seen in the shooting video…
Not even close…
FireAg said:TAMUallen said:Nanomachines son said:MarkTwain said:lunchbox said:
Different backpack different coat curious as to how they are tying this guy to the perpNot to be a crazy conspiracy theorist, but, as someone who has eyeballs... what? pic.twitter.com/X6gafAPKJr
— 9mmSMG (@9mm_smg) December 5, 2024
I feel like I am taking crazy pills here. How do they think this is the same person?
I mean that's different people
Different jacket…
Different hood material…
Different backpack color…
Do authorities really think people are that dumb?
That ain't the same clothing/bacpack as seen in the shooting video…
Not even close…
The last two might somehow be same person with and without the backpack but I'd love to see the full footage/pics... I'm starting to think they might be reaching for "white with jacket" and reposting anything similar
Kinda thinking it might be JFF... that nose and it's a white guy
DarkBrandon01 said:Tom Fox said:
The answer is simple. Eliminate health insurance. You pay cash when you are treated and let the free market dictate pricing.
It will be cheaper for everyone and save us trillions in tax revenue.
No. Just nationalize it like every other first world country. No insurance, no private equity, no profit.
Who pays for that? Me, like now?
So I still pay a crap ton in taxes and now have slower or worse care while the proletariat gets identical care for nothing? F that! Healthcare is not a right.
The one in the middle looks like a middle eastern chick to me. Chick face and shoulders. Could be trans I guess. But definitely different person than the other two.Nanomachines son said:MarkTwain said:lunchbox said:
Different backpack different coat curious as to how they are tying this guy to the perpNot to be a crazy conspiracy theorist, but, as someone who has eyeballs... what? pic.twitter.com/X6gafAPKJr
— 9mmSMG (@9mm_smg) December 5, 2024
I feel like I am taking crazy pills here. How do they think this is the same person?
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The two on the right are the same person.
"I doubt it does, but I hope this causes the other insurance CEOs to become a bit more introspective about their drive to maximize profits over patient care"txyaloo said:Might be disgusting, but having personally been screwed over by UHC, I really can't muster up much empathy.BMX Bandit said:
lots of disgusting people out there sadly
They are hands down the most scummy of the insurance companies. I've had them multiple times over the last 2.5 decades and they are always the ones who make it the most difficult to actually get care using your insurance.
I've had to do the multiple layers of escalations to try and get procedures approved with no dice even though their policy/plan docs said coverage was included and multiple docs on my care team said it was medically necessary.
I doubt it does, but I hope this causes the other insurance CEOs to become a bit more introspective about their drive to maximize profits over patient care
It won't. Their entire existence is to make money for the shareholders. I'll never forget hearing Steve Hemsley get on town hall meetings at UHG and preach earnings. They didn't care about anyone at all.
Stephen J. Hemsley (born 1952) is chair of the board and former chief executive officer of UnitedHealth Group Inc.
Could be same person but different day. Could be someone that was seen talking/interacting with the suspect.
Kenneth_2003 said:Tell me you've never spoke to ANYONE from a country with nationalized health care without telling me.DarkBrandon01 said:Tom Fox said:
The answer is simple. Eliminate health insurance. You pay cash when you are treated and let the free market dictate pricing.
It will be cheaper for everyone and save us trillions in tax revenue.
No. Just nationalize it like every other first world country. No insurance, no private equity, no profit.
My employer has offices in both Houston, Ontario, & Alberta. I cross the border to work on projects regularly. The Canadians come to the US regularly. EVERY one of them would love to have the system we have.
One short Google search, 'healthcare canada wait times"
I spent 30 seconds looking
https://www.cihi.ca/en/wait-times-for-priority-procedures-in-canada-2024Do you want to wait 6 months for a hip replacement?Quote:
- Between April and September 2023, fewer patients received a hip or knee replacement within the recommended 6 months compared with the same period in 2019
- Cataract surgery wait times have returned to pre-pandemic levels, with 70% of patients treated within the recommended 112 days in 2023
- Median wait times were 2 to 4 days longer for breast, bladder, colorectal and lung cancer surgeries in 2023 than in 2019, and 11 days longer for prostate cancer surgery
- Between April and September 2023, median wait times were 7 days longer for MRI scans and 4 days longer for CT scans compared with the same period in 2019.
Do you want to wait 4 months for cataract surgery?
THIS IS AFTER YOU GET TO SEE A DR THAT DETERMINES YOU NEED THE PROCEDURE AND QUALIFY FOR IT!
Now, come back and defend your post. Or is this your typical click-by troll job? (First and only post in 4 days)
One system causes longer wait the other system causes death.
These were supposedly taken at a hostel where he was staying. I haven't heard it reported when they were taken. It may not have been that morning.FireAg said:TAMUallen said:Nanomachines son said:MarkTwain said:lunchbox said:
Different backpack different coat curious as to how they are tying this guy to the perpNot to be a crazy conspiracy theorist, but, as someone who has eyeballs... what? pic.twitter.com/X6gafAPKJr
— 9mmSMG (@9mm_smg) December 5, 2024
I feel like I am taking crazy pills here. How do they think this is the same person?
I mean that's different people
Different jacket…
Different hood material…
Different backpack color…
Do authorities really think people are that dumb?
That ain't the same clothing/bacpack as seen in the shooting video…
Not even close…
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