United Healthcare CEO shot and killed in NYC

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4:30p, 12/9/24
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*Putting on my tinfoil hat*

I think they're hiding the true story and how they truly found him. It was probably extremely invasive AI/NSA type stuff that they'd rather the public not know about. Then planted all the evidence.

Dude just doesn't lounge around in McDonald's without changing his appearance and HOLDING THE MURDER WEAPON 5 freaking days later…like, really?…
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In reply to Rapier108 • 4:34p, 12/9/24
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Gig em G said:
So the weapon was a glock, not a ghost gun?
Many so called "ghost guns," especially the 3D printed type, use a Glock based design. They even accept Glock magazines.

The Glock Gen3 and older are no longer protected by their copyright/trademark/patent so anyone can make a gun based on them. There are numerous Glock clones on the market like PSA, Canik, and SAR USA, and the design for a Glock frame can easily be downloaded and printed if someone wants to assemble one on their own.


Interesting, thanks for sharing. The frame on glocks are plastic right? So I guess it makes sense then
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In reply to Rapier108 • 4:34p, 12/9/24
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Rapier108 said:
Gig em G said:
So the weapon was a glock, not a ghost gun?
Many so called "ghost guns," especially the 3D printed type, use a Glock based design. They even accept Glock magazines.

The Glock Gen3 and older are no longer protected by their copyright/trademark/patent so anyone can make a gun based on them. There are numerous Glock clones on the market like PSA, Canik, and SAR USA, and the design for a Glock frame can easily be downloaded and printed if someone wants to assemble one on their own.


You can also buy unfinished and unserialed frames and jigs to finish them the same as with an AR. Much better and cheaper/easier than printing.
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4:35p, 12/9/24


Indeed, these are not remotely leftist views. In fact this is classic dissident right traditionalism. I'm not supporting the guy but these are clear right wing views.

Of course he believed in climate change too and that's a clear leftist position.

I think it's becoming increasingly clear he oneshotted his brain with psychadelics trying to deal with his back pain and then went insane.



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In reply to Gig em G • 4:36p, 12/9/24
Gig em G said:
Rapier108 said:
Gig em G said:
So the weapon was a glock, not a ghost gun?
Many so called "ghost guns," especially the 3D printed type, use a Glock based design. They even accept Glock magazines.

The Glock Gen3 and older are no longer protected by their copyright/trademark/patent so anyone can make a gun based on them. There are numerous Glock clones on the market like PSA, Canik, and SAR USA, and the design for a Glock frame can easily be downloaded and printed if someone wants to assemble one on their own.


Interesting, thanks for sharing. The frame on glocks are plastic right? So I guess it makes sense then
Yep, they're plastic, or as the industry likes to say, polymer. Most modern handguns are to one degree or another, but Glock was the first to really put a lot of plastics/polymers into handguns.
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In reply to ABATTBQ11 • 4:38p, 12/9/24
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Rapier108 said:
Gig em G said:
So the weapon was a glock, not a ghost gun?
Many so called "ghost guns," especially the 3D printed type, use a Glock based design. They even accept Glock magazines.

The Glock Gen3 and older are no longer protected by their copyright/trademark/patent so anyone can make a gun based on them. There are numerous Glock clones on the market like PSA, Canik, and SAR USA, and the design for a Glock frame can easily be downloaded and printed if someone wants to assemble one on their own.


You can also buy unfinished and unserialed frames and jigs to finish them the same as with an AR. Much better and cheaper/easier than printing.
Very true, I just mentioned 3D printing because reports were saying that is how he made the gun.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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In reply to dermdoc • 4:39p, 12/9/24
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Tats what people are saying. You mind explaining what that is?
It often occurs with activities, often sports, that put high stress on the back. I've most commonly seen it in gymnasts and cheerleaders but can happen with any activity that puts high load on the lower back.

On the Xray, you can see 4 screws and a plate. The top 2 screws appear to be in the L5 vertebrae, and the bottom 2 screws are in the sacrum. All run through a plate to provide stability in hopes of preventing further shifting of the L5. If you look closely, you can see that the L5 remains shifted anteriorly (forward, right to left on Xray). You would have to ask any orthopedic surgeon if that degree of anterior shift is acceptable following surgery.
Othopods shouldnt be doing spine surgery, but that's for another thread


Agree. Back surgery should always be done by a neurosurgeon. You have two things involved, nerves and bones. Nerves are the most important thing so get a neurosurgeon.
A dual-boarded neuroradiologist and interventional pain doc said he would trust himself to watch some youtube vids on spine surgery rather than send a patient to ortho, ouch. But wonder if chronic pain had any impact in this case. Very difficult living with that, and having spine surgery that young (or really any spine surgery, if you can avoid spine surgery you should lol) is a poor prognostic factor
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In reply to Muy • 4:40p, 12/9/24
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If the cops hadn't tracked that guy down to that hostel and got that shot of his stupid grin when he had lowered his mask and then put those photos out there, the McD's cashier doesn't call.

NOr are the cops able to quickly ascertain from all the evidence collected that the tip is a good one.
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4:40p, 12/9/24
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Penny innocent and this guy caught. Pretty big news day for a Monday.
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In reply to Pumpkinhead • 4:42p, 12/9/24
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Credit goes to alert McDonald's worker.
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In reply to MsDoubleD81 • 4:46p, 12/9/24
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MsDoubleD81 said:
Credit goes to alert McDonald's worker.
definitely that person as well deserves a lot of credit.
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4:48p, 12/9/24
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So he wasn't making a point about being denied coverage and someone close to him dying? Ouch, some posters here have to be upset. So what's the new spin to say you don't support this guy but…. There has to a new twist.
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In reply to MsDoubleD81 • 4:58p, 12/9/24
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Credit goes to alert McDonald's worker.


How about the person that got the picture of his brows for all to see?

You all just can't seem to give the police credit. You really wanted them to fail didn't you?
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4:59p, 12/9/24
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I can't find the account (probably now deleted) or verify the validity but it seems that Luigi might have us going down tunnels like Mario... I'm ready for a deep dive

https://www.newsweek.com/luigi-mangione-youtube-video-arrest-unitedhealthcare-shooting-1998175

Cryptic Video Linked to Luigi Mangione Pops Up on YouTube Hours After Arrest

"If you see this, I'm already under arrest," said a caption in the silent 84-second clip posted by the account @PepMangione, which matches other social handles that appear to be those of Luigi Mangione, the man arrested on Monday. The message was accompanied by a countdown from 60 seconds. Near the end of the video, the message, "Soon..." appeared at the bottom right of a black screen. A second caption appeared at the end of the video, saying, "All is scheduled, be patient. Bye for now."
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I am curious about what this guy was doing for money. The only reference to a job he held I have seen was him working for Stanford Univ in some kind of advisory role 5 years ago. I assume he was from a wealthy family given his private school and Ivy League educations but from what I have read he fell off his immediate family's radar for the last year and they haven't had much contact with him. He spent time in Hawaii and Japan which isn't cheap. Was his family sending him money? Will be interesting to find out if any of his family or high school and college friends reported him to a tip line after seeing the wanted posters. You would think if he held a job recently a coworker would have recognized him from the posters.
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In reply to bonfarr • 5:11p, 12/9/24
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I am curious about what this guy was doing for money. The only reference to a job he held I have seen was him working for Stanford Univ in some kind of advisory role 5 years ago. I assume he was from a wealthy family given his private school and Ivy League educations but from what I have read he fell off his immediate family's radar for the last year and they haven't had much contact with him. He spent time in Hawaii and Japan which isn't cheap. Was his family sending him money? Will be interesting to find out if any of his family or high school and college friends reported him to a tip line after seeing the wanted posters. You would think if he held a job recently a coworker would have recognized him from the posters.


I see he was a data engineer for TrueCar for 4 years up to now. Started as Data Engineer 1 and was promoted two time to Data Engineer 3 (now)
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In reply to TAMUallen • 5:12p, 12/9/24
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I can't find the account (probably now deleted) or verify the validity but it seems that Luigi might have us going down tunnels like Mario... I'm ready for a deep dive

https://www.newsweek.com/luigi-mangione-youtube-video-arrest-unitedhealthcare-shooting-1998175

Cryptic Video Linked to Luigi Mangione Pops Up on YouTube Hours After Arrest

"If you see this, I'm already under arrest," said a caption in the silent 84-second clip posted by the account @PepMangione, which matches other social handles that appear to be those of Luigi Mangione, the man arrested on Monday. The message was accompanied by a countdown from 60 seconds. Near the end of the video, the message, "Soon..." appeared at the bottom right of a black screen. A second caption appeared at the end of the video, saying, "All is scheduled, be patient. Bye for now."

I'm telling you, this guy is basically following the Riddler in The Batman…if his followers begin killing other insurance executives or bombing buildings, we are about to see an Antifa Anti-hero.
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In reply to bonfarr • 5:15p, 12/9/24
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bonfarr said:
I am curious about what this guy was doing for money. The only reference to a job he held I have seen was him working for Stanford Univ in some kind of advisory role 5 years ago. I assume he was from a wealthy family given his private school and Ivy League educations but from what I have read he fell off his immediate family's radar for the last year and they haven't had much contact with him. He spent time in Hawaii and Japan which isn't cheap. Was his family sending him money? Will be interesting to find out if any of his family or high school and college friends reported him to a tip line after seeing the wanted posters. You would think if he held a job recently a coworker would have recognized him from the posters.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14175083/Luigi-Mangione-heir-holiday-resort-fortune-created-grandparents-sister-whos-doctor.html
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In reply to bonfarr • 5:18p, 12/9/24
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bonfarr said:
I am curious about what this guy was doing for money. The only reference to a job he held I have seen was him working for Stanford Univ in some kind of advisory role 5 years ago. I assume he was from a wealthy family given his private school and Ivy League educations but from what I have read he fell off his immediate family's radar for the last year and they haven't had much contact with him. He spent time in Hawaii and Japan which isn't cheap. Was his family sending him money? Will be interesting to find out if any of his family or high school and college friends reported him to a tip line after seeing the wanted posters. You would think if he held a job recently a coworker would have recognized him from the posters.
My guess is that he's a trust fund baby and once he turned 25, he was given full access. Since he's now 26 and has been out of contact with his family for over a year.
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Marauder Blue 6 said:
bonfarr said:
I am curious about what this guy was doing for money. The only reference to a job he held I have seen was him working for Stanford Univ in some kind of advisory role 5 years ago. I assume he was from a wealthy family given his private school and Ivy League educations but from what I have read he fell off his immediate family's radar for the last year and they haven't had much contact with him. He spent time in Hawaii and Japan which isn't cheap. Was his family sending him money? Will be interesting to find out if any of his family or high school and college friends reported him to a tip line after seeing the wanted posters. You would think if he held a job recently a coworker would have recognized him from the posters.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14175083/Luigi-Mangione-heir-holiday-resort-fortune-created-grandparents-sister-whos-doctor.html


So, just another spoiled trust fund baby looking for purpose and meaning by fetishizing the poor because they've never struggled a day in their life.

Figures.
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In reply to TAMUallen • 5:25p, 12/9/24
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bonfarr said:
I am curious about what this guy was doing for money. The only reference to a job he held I have seen was him working for Stanford Univ in some kind of advisory role 5 years ago. I assume he was from a wealthy family given his private school and Ivy League educations but from what I have read he fell off his immediate family's radar for the last year and they haven't had much contact with him. He spent time in Hawaii and Japan which isn't cheap. Was his family sending him money? Will be interesting to find out if any of his family or high school and college friends reported him to a tip line after seeing the wanted posters. You would think if he held a job recently a coworker would have recognized him from the posters.


I see he was a data engineer for TrueCar for 4 years up to now. Started as Data Engineer 1 and was promoted two time to Data Engineer 3 (now)


Could that position have been 100% remote? That would explain why no coworker recognized him from the wanted posters.
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In reply to bonfarr • 5:32p, 12/9/24
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Could that position have been 100% remote? That would explain why no coworker recognized him from the wanted posters.
And why he was on his laptop at McDonalds? Logging in? I am getting some Scott Turow's Presumed Innocent vibes when the wife logged into her university computer to provide an alibi while she murdered her husband's lover.
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5:33p, 12/9/24
Not surprising to see F16 leftists trash Christianity.

Those post-modernist social Darwinists and their impeccable understanding of what love is..... "Love is Love" they tell us.....

The Christian has the objective truth on their side. The Bible defines what love is.
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Court where? Altoona, PA? He's obviously facing a gun charge there. Extradition back to NY takes a few days at a minimum.
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Does bro not understand drive through?

No but seriously I agree with the person that said they probably used some highly illegal NSA type stuff to find this guy and needed a cover story
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probably used some highly illegal NSA type stuff to find this guy and needed a cover story

why a cover story? their position of "we can do what we want" seems to be working for them just fine.
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I just can't get over my suspicion about him still carrying his gun. At the very least bury it somewhere and memorize the coordinates? The dumbest person ever would ditch it within hours. NYPD was so certain he ditched the gun so quickly they were scuba diving in Central Park. (As one would rightly assume given all the other precautions he took.)

I will be interested to see what the official narrative will turn out to be and how the legal proceedings go next
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In reply to Gig em G • 6:09p, 12/9/24
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Not if he was on the lam constantly moving with no central base and needed the gun to complete his mission. Hell maybe he wanted to go down in a blaze of glory and was just caught completely off guard in McDonald's.

I think it's completely explainable why he would have everything on his person.
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TAMUallen said:
I can't find the account (probably now deleted) or verify the validity but it seems that Luigi might have us going down tunnels like Mario... I'm ready for a deep dive

https://www.newsweek.com/luigi-mangione-youtube-video-arrest-unitedhealthcare-shooting-1998175

Cryptic Video Linked to Luigi Mangione Pops Up on YouTube Hours After Arrest

"If you see this, I'm already under arrest," said a caption in the silent 84-second clip posted by the account @PepMangione, which matches other social handles that appear to be those of Luigi Mangione, the man arrested on Monday. The message was accompanied by a countdown from 60 seconds. Near the end of the video, the message, "Soon..." appeared at the bottom right of a black screen. A second caption appeared at the end of the video, saying, "All is scheduled, be patient. Bye for now."


Anything else out there about this??

Most likely fake or a copycat right??
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In reply to JobSecurity • 6:14p, 12/9/24
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That seems to deflate one thought I had. He kept the gun to go out in suicide by cop.
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Gig em G said:
I just can't get over my suspicion about him still carrying his gun. At the very least bury it somewhere and memorize the coordinates? The dumbest person ever would ditch it within hours. NYPD was so certain he ditched the gun so quickly they were scuba diving in Central Park. (As one would rightly assume given all the other precautions he took.)

I will be interested to see what the official narrative will turn out to be and how the legal proceedings go next


The fact is PA cops searched him and he had a gun and a suppressor and fake IDs on him. What other narrative would there be? Do you think there is some kind of vast conspiracy like those objects were planted on this suspect or something? A conspiracy that would involve the NYPD, the FBI, and local cops in Altoona, PA? Rational thinking people don't gun a stranger down on a crowded street to prove a point.

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MsDoubleD81 said:
Credit goes to alert McDonald's worker.


How about the person that got the picture of his brows for all to see?

You all just can't seem to give the police credit. You really wanted them to fail didn't you?


I want who to fail? Absolutely not. The photos of the brows were obtained from security footage. Not like someone taking a photo with a Polaroid.
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So... None of this guys family or friends or anyone who saw him growing up recognized him this whole time?

His eyes and cheeks have been plastered all over television. Nobody checked up on him lately?
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In reply to bonfarr • 6:26p, 12/9/24
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There have been plenty of cases where cops have planted evidence. It does happen and that is not really a conspiracy.

Everything he wore or touched since his arrival in NYC should have been long gone if someone wanted to get away with it. And…maybe he didn't expect to get away, who knows. Still very strange
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