That's one weird mofo in that video. Creepy.
United Healthcare CEO shot and killed in NYC
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The no protection aspect is baffling. The companies I've worked for, the CEO always had 2+ security in public. That, and why the heck is he walking? Pretty sure that guy should have a dedicated driver as well.Wheatables02 said:
The most shocking part of this whole story is how the CEO of a major healthcare company didn't utilize executive protection.
And the rounds used in the suppressed pistol likely didn't have enough grains to cycle the weapon's slide causing a stoppage. He's not catching casings and keeping them just to leave three there.
Edit: These aren't a conspiratorial "why didn't he?", more of a "was the CEO that dense?" question.
If you are talking about the guy doing the overview, he's pretty based. He is a criminal defense attorney in Edmonton who handles a lot of firearms cases. He hates Justin Trudeau and Canadian gun regulation. He grew his hair out during Covid and other people started comparing him to a wood elf so he just went with it and kept it.
The national news on CBS just mentioned that the shooter hung out at a Starbucks for a while earlier in the morning and was captured on camera without the mask so they have enough for facial recognition.
He shot him from behind, not facing him. That might suggest it wasn't personal to the shooter and he was hired, regardless of his skill level.
That's who I'm talking about. Looks like a total weirdo.
Murdered UnitedHealthcare CEO had been receiving death threats about "lack of coverage," his wife has said, per WSJ.
— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) December 4, 2024
A lawsuit was filed in 2023 that UnitedHealthcare was using an AI model with 90% error rate to deny care, per Reuters.
John Grisham novel. The Rainmaker.Ag83 said:Murdered UnitedHealthcare CEO had been receiving death threats about "lack of coverage," his wife has said, per WSJ.
— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) December 4, 2024
A lawsuit was filed in 2023 that UnitedHealthcare was using an AI model with 90% error rate to deny care, per Reuters.
Good book. Bad movie adaptation.
Seems he was...
https://nypost.com/2024/12/04/us-news/slain-unitedhealth-ceo-brian-thompson-was-facing-doj-probe-for-insider-trading-report/Quote:
UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson was one of several senior executives at the company under investigation by the Department of Justice when he was gunned down outside a Manhattan hotel on Wednesday.
Holy guacamole.
From that article (thanks for sharing)
Thompson who was killed in what police called a targeted shooting outside the Hilton hotel in Midtown exercised stock options and sold shares worth $15.1 million on Feb. 16, less than two weeks before news of the federal antitrust probe went public, according to a Crain's New York Business report from April.
The stock price dropped sharply after the revelation that the DOJ was investigating whether the company had made acquisitions that consolidated its market position in violation of antitrust laws, a source familiar with the probe told the outlet.
From that article (thanks for sharing)
Thompson who was killed in what police called a targeted shooting outside the Hilton hotel in Midtown exercised stock options and sold shares worth $15.1 million on Feb. 16, less than two weeks before news of the federal antitrust probe went public, according to a Crain's New York Business report from April.
The stock price dropped sharply after the revelation that the DOJ was investigating whether the company had made acquisitions that consolidated its market position in violation of antitrust laws, a source familiar with the probe told the outlet.
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Holy guacamole.
From that article (thanks for sharing)
Thompson who was killed in what police called a targeted shooting outside the Hilton hotel in Midtown exercised stock options and sold shares worth $15.1 million on Feb. 16, less than two weeks before news of the federal antitrust probe went public, according to a Crain's New York Business report from April.
The stock price dropped sharply after the revelation that the DOJ was investigating whether the company had made acquisitions that consolidated its market position in violation of antitrust laws, a source familiar with the probe told the outlet.
He could have made 10% more by holding. That UNH stock chart is ridiculous
Assassin? No.Quote:
Thinks it was someone who was proficient but not a professional.
But a hit man can be anyone willing to take a case of beer in exchange for a hit. There are many of those as well.
Charles Harrelson had to start somewhere.
nothing to do with the op but I get stressed just thinking about the "best" way to handle Healthcare costs. It's such a difficult and complicated matter.
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Rapier108 said:Police have said his schedule was publicly available so anyone with motivation could figure out when he'd be there.Gator92 said:I believe he was there for an annual shareholders meeting. Would be public knowledge scheduled months ago.AggieDruggist89 said:
How would a disgruntled insurance member/family know where Thompson would be this AM?
When I'm traveling (He lives in MN?) for business, very few if any will know my whereabouts at any given time. Those who would know would be someone with access to my calendar or someone who's in the meeting with me. Even my family wouldn't know exact time and location of my whereabouts.
So a close insider had to have tipped off the shooter.
Did he fly in this morning on the company jet?
ADS-B or your favorite flight tracker...
Why would his schedule be publicly available and with that much detail? Seems odd and even stranger for them to say it.
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I would guess that the schedule of the shareholders meeting was public including who would be speaking and when.Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:Rapier108 said:Police have said his schedule was publicly available so anyone with motivation could figure out when he'd be there.Gator92 said:I believe he was there for an annual shareholders meeting. Would be public knowledge scheduled months ago.AggieDruggist89 said:
How would a disgruntled insurance member/family know where Thompson would be this AM?
When I'm traveling (He lives in MN?) for business, very few if any will know my whereabouts at any given time. Those who would know would be someone with access to my calendar or someone who's in the meeting with me. Even my family wouldn't know exact time and location of my whereabouts.
So a close insider had to have tipped off the shooter.
Did he fly in this morning on the company jet?
ADS-B or your favorite flight tracker...
Why would his schedule be publicly available and with that much detail? Seems odd and even stranger for them to say it.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
take this to the outside board, they can probably tell you the exact gun and who made it, they may even know the serial numbers.. lolPsycho Bunny said:
Was this gun that was used or something similar
UNH nets about $6B a year. Where does that money go? Who profits? Shocking to me this guy had no security.
He does look like John Cusack with long grey scraggly hair. Still, was he says and concludes seems reasonable. At least to me as a non-gun person.docb said:
That's one weird mofo in that video. Creepy.
if this is true he might as well swallow a bullet or turn himself in, going to be interesting if they catch him to find out the real motive? insurance claim denial? shareholder lost tons of money and hired someone? maybe the dude that got killed was porking someone's wife?Roll the Bones said:
The national news on CBS just mentioned that the shooter hung out at a Starbucks for a while earlier in the morning and was captured on camera without the mask so they have enough for facial recognition.
Chatted with some folks who study urban left-wing terrorismRed Brigades, Tupamaros, etc. Asked if they thought this might be an opening act for this sort of thing in the United States (the Red Brigades routinely kidnapped and assassinated CEOs for example). I was more or less told "What worries me/us is that we don't know it wasn't."
The professionalism and detail in the act is concerning.
The professionalism and detail in the act is concerning.
mickeyrig06sq3 said:The no protection aspect is baffling. The companies I've worked for, the CEO always had 2+ security in public. That, and why the heck is he walking? Pretty sure that guy should have a dedicated driver as well.Wheatables02 said:
The most shocking part of this whole story is how the CEO of a major healthcare company didn't utilize executive protection.
And the rounds used in the suppressed pistol likely didn't have enough grains to cycle the weapon's slide causing a stoppage. He's not catching casings and keeping them just to leave three there.
Edit: These aren't a conspiratorial "why didn't he?", more of a "was the CEO that dense?" question.
He was staying at the hotel across the street from the Hilton. He was just walking over.
No clue why he didn't have protection, though. Especially if he had been receiving threats.
Yep, somewhat baffling. At one of my prior companies (very large defense contractor), when the CEO came to visit the whole building was basically on lockdown. Hallways roped off, armed security everywhere. And this was inside of the relatively secure facility.
when i was at UPS the CEO had a SS detail
I would have to think most insurance company Csuites get a healthy dose of death threats based on scenarios listed in this thread. Id be more shocked if they didnt. Also, I highly doubt this indvidual was emailing the CEO and warning him he was coming.
Such a wild deal. Intrigued to see what the motive was if they find the shooter.
Jackal level hit right there. Top 10 biggest companies in the world? If the Biden crime family is involved, we will never find out the truth.
Kind of makes someone not want to be CEO of a big company that deals with the public in general like health care, hospitals, insurance, etcakaggie05 said:
Yep, somewhat baffling. At one of my prior companies (very large defense contractor), when the CEO came to visit the whole building was basically on lockdown. Hallways roped off, armed security everywhere. And this was inside of the relatively secure facility.
In the end, I guess I really don't give a ****
I wish I was a messenger, and all the news was good. Eddie V.
Frankly I'm surprised this didn't happen to one of the Sacklers first
Did some snooping. Wondering if this is the hotel where he was staying 5*. Baccarat Hotel. Across the street.
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Dicer said:can you really blame people for not having sympathy for these clowns. They deny people insurance all the time but sure as **** won't refund premiumschickencoupe16 said:There are definitely things that justify this, even if they don't make it legal. Not saying those things exist in this scenario, but they do exist.William Foster said:Obviously nothing justifies this...would just find the shooting less sprurising if something like that turned out to be the case.TheEternalOptimist said:Scenario is still immoral response to a questionably immoral situation. The CEO does not have %100 knowledge and understanding of every single denial or insurance dispute.aTm2004 said:Or a second scenario:BigRobSA said:Psycho Bunny said:
Imagine ruining your life and your family's life just to kill a CEO. That's really sticking it to the man. Only for the company to put a new CEO in its place, who might just be worse than the previous CEO.
Now you are in jail for murder and the CEOs wife can now sue your family for damages. Not that CEOs wife will ever see any money? The fact that your family's life is now ruined
Hope those three day old sandwiches, you'll be eating while sitting in jail was worth it.
Scenario:
I pay my premium for myself and my 6yo son. I never miss a payment and go to in network providers, etc, etc. My son gets diagnosed with something normally covered and, because reasons, he gets denied care and dies.
Those 3 day old sandwiches will taste just fine while I reminisce about how the scum sucking CEO is 6 fee under.
You pay your premiums and you never miss a payment, go to in network providers, etc. You're diagnosed with a terminal illness and there is a new treatment that is showing promise that is curing and/or extending the life of those with the treatment, but because of reasons, your insurance provider denies it and you just had your last Thanksgiving.
Those 3 day old sandwiches will taste just fine for the months you have left while you laugh about that scum sucking CEO beating you to the dirt.
A man with a grudge who knows his life is ending soon and has nothing to lose is very dangerous. I'm honestly shocked it hasn't happened before.
I was rejected for a treatment for my severe illness by Aetna. I did not ever think of murder. Not even once.
I feel about as I would had the boss of a large crime family been gunned down, honestly.
They are pretty damn close to the same thing, but are way more powerful with the lobby on K street.
These people really have no idea what's coming. They've tried to placate the masses with pornography, TikTok's and other nonsense. People can barely make it. I do relatively well as a professional but every day is a struggle. I can't imagine what struggle others have. But meanwhile the elites have money to send to Ukraine: The clock is ticking.
I wish I was a messenger, and all the news was good. Eddie V.
Rapier108 said:A professional would have taken him out without any witnesses, knowing how the avoid cameras, and have a better way to leave the area than a rented, electric bike.William Foster said:GAC06 said:BlueSmoke said:Tells me that pistol is at the bottom of the river or melted down. Non concerns of spent rounds being traced back to the pistol.ttu_85 said:Weird case. Dude was cool and had the 'look' of someone that has done this before, especially given how he causally walked away.texagbeliever said:Dicer said:
That's what IMO doesn't make this a pro. A pro would've likely taken her out as well. This was an amateur who was either hired or he was pissed off
Disagree. The guy knows he is on camera. He also knew she wasnt a threat. What information is that woman going to give law enforcement that the video wouldn't?
Also it isn't like some rando is going to know the CEOs schedule.
But...
Then struggles with his weapon leaving 3 live 9mm rounds and some brass. You would think a pro would know his ammo and weapon and quickly police the brass. Yet the dude was coldly ruthless.
Like I said odd.
Uh, I don't think even the best assassin in the world is going to recover his spent rounds on the sidewalk in Manhattan
If I were an assassin, I would use a .22 or 9mm suppressed PCC with some type of catch-bag.
Although, what are the odds they are able to get anything of value from the casings if he even took the most basic of precautions?
Mossad uses a suppressed .22 short as a favorite assassination weapon.
Also, .45ACP is favored by the US military as it is naturally subsonic compared to 9mm. That is why the H&K Mark-23 is designed to specifically be used with a suppressor.
Not if the professional wanted the Public to know it was a hit. This was both an assassination and a message to the general public. "You elites are not safe."
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These people really have no idea what's coming. They've tried to placate the masses with pornography, TikTok's and other nonsense. People can barely make it. I do relatively well as a professional but every day is a struggle. I can't imagine what struggle others have. But meanwhile the elites have money to send to Ukraine: The clock is ticking.
A CEO got shot in New York, why does it matter? The amount of people who actually run this country is relatively small, and most of them don’t have real security. The idea that you can be walking in a major urban area and get domed by the complaints department will mess with the…
— Cryptoterrestrial Society Enjoyer (@IndSocEnjoyer) December 5, 2024
Exactly. The thin veneer of society is close to breaking. Once Pandora's Box gets opened there is no going back.
It will become easier and easier for people to do this and get away with it.