United Healthcare CEO shot and killed in NYC

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Interesting to say the least, many of us thought this guy was on some higher level, but really he wasn't, but it does seem that he may have been "messed up" when he had his spinal surgery.. Im going to bet he was in constant pain with his injury and he blames it on not getting "better" medical services from his insurance. really fits along with all of this. who knows, his story on his medical service will come out, that will be his entire defense, hes in pain because this CEO screwed him on his medical treatment... he will be a robin Hood for many people with similar medical issues

Im very interested in hearing his side of the medical story, this guy basically took it out on the CEO because of what he went through or is going through... I want to see how bad his treatment was.. none of it justifies his actions but it will be interesting to see what he has gone though
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Another privileged trust fund kid who hates capitalism that enabled his family wealth and his privileges.
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Dude is a genius in the vein of Timothy McVeigh who correctly identify a problem, and identify what will fix it, but have replaced their morality with pragmatism.

He's a mix of Ted K, Mike Ma, and Mishima. He is neither left nor right, he's horshoe theory incarnate.

He seems like a National Socialist with Anprim views. Society should both be tailored to the community, while allowing individual excellence to flourish. As far as technology exists to make life eaiser, it should be embraced. Where it removes the individual from society, it should be outlawed.

This guy should have been born as a samurai 500 years ago, he's not fit for modern life.
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Quo Vadis? said:

Dude is a genius in the vein of Timothy McVeigh who correctly identify a problem, and identify what will fix it, but have replaced their morality with pragmatism.

He's a mix of Ted K, Mike Ma, and Mishima. He is neither left nor right, he's horshoe theory incarnate.

He seems like a National Socialist with Anprim views. Society should both be tailored to the community, while allowing individual excellence to flourish. As far as technology exists to make life eaiser, it should be embraced. Where it removes the individual from society, it should be outlawed.

This guy should have been born as a samurai 500 years ago, he's not fit for modern life.



Murderer not a genius. He should've taken his cause up via the political process.
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That's a bunch of hippie dippy baloney.

I'm Gipper
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BillYeoman said:

Quo Vadis? said:

Dude is a genius in the vein of Timothy McVeigh who correctly identify a problem, and identify what will fix it, but have replaced their morality with pragmatism.

He's a mix of Ted K, Mike Ma, and Mishima. He is neither left nor right, he's horshoe theory incarnate.

He seems like a National Socialist with Anprim views. Society should both be tailored to the community, while allowing individual excellence to flourish. As far as technology exists to make life eaiser, it should be embraced. Where it removes the individual from society, it should be outlawed.

This guy should have been born as a samurai 500 years ago, he's not fit for modern life.



Murderer not a genius. He should've taken his cause up via the political process.


Lots of geniuses are messed in the head. He knows there's no possible political solution. For most people that means there is no solution. He's messed in the head, so he decides to kill someone. Most of us who come to the same conclusion he does go "aw shucks, guess we'll try as hard as we can to make a change".

Same with guys like McVeigh, he was spot on in his critique of the ATF and FBI. The madness was with his decision to bomb the Murrah building.

To be honest we should be thankful this guy just killed one dude instead of blowing up a building.
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With all the technology and video available to law enforcement (and if the authorities have enough manpower to follow up on leads) it seems practically impossible to commit a crime like this and get away with it.

A big chunk of Police work seems to have been reduced to just gathering up videos and watching hours of footage.
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Houston Lee said:

With all the technology and video available to law enforcement (and if the authorities have enough manpower to follow up on leads) it seems practically impossible to commit a crime like this and get away with it.

A big chunk of Police work seems to have been reduced to just gathering up videos and watching hours of footage.


I'd bet they got a TON of tips from people who knew him given he went awol for months. The moment he dropped that mask down for the *****, it was over.
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I'm playing catch-up, so I don't know if this has been addressed. They FOUND him after a tip from a McD's employee. When did they IDENTIFY him?
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This has a lot of the hallmarks of schizophrenic break.
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Gig em G said:

There have been plenty of cases where cops have planted evidence. It does happen and that is not really a conspiracy.

Everything he wore or touched since his arrival in NYC should have been long gone if someone wanted to get away with it. And…maybe he didn't expect to get away, who knows. Still very strange



You're assuming this was a single, isolated event and he planned on just walking away and back to his life, but him keeping his gun and fake ID's makes complete sense of he intended to kill other people and was simply waiting for his next opportunity. That certainly seems like the case.
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AgHawkeye said:

This has a lot of the hallmarks of schizophrenic break.


Or an out of touch, privileged kid thinks he's smarter than everyone.

Combine that with chronic back pain, drugs, the internet and being estranged from family at the age of 26 is a recipe for some radical action.
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aggiehawg said:


My guess is that he's a trust fund baby and once he turned 25, he was given full access. Since he's now 26 and has been out of contact with his family for over a year.
Yep. Didn't his dad make a bundle with the flugelhorn ?
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What has he ever done that is genius other than murdering a guy and then getting caught with all the evidence needed to convict him? No career to speak of. No accomplishment. He's no more genius than an average gangbanger and he's dumber than all the bangers that know to dump the gun. Stop glamorizing this idiot. He's a murdering fool that never did a damn thing and got caught quickly
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He's a samurai!!

lol

I'm Gipper
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DannyDuberstein said:

What has he ever done that is genius other than murdering a guy and then getting caught with all the evidence needed to convict him? No career to speak of. No accomplishment. He's no more genius than an average gangbanger and he's dumber than all the bangers that know to dump the gun


This killer is like a Rohrshach Test, people will see what they want to see in his actions.
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More like a ****** Test. Helps identify who is one like him.
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DannyDuberstein said:

What has he ever done that is genius other than murdering a guy and then getting caught with all the evidence needed to convict him? No career to speak of. No accomplishment. He's no more genius than an average gangbanger and he's dumber than all the bangers that know to dump the gun. Stop glamorizing this idiot. He's a murdering fool that never did a damn thing and got caught quickly
All book smarts, and they only take you so far in the world. I know that from personal experience. But I have never killed anyone.
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Looks like his mother got screwed by the system too, just like he did.
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DannyDuberstein said:

What has he ever done that is genius other than murdering a guy and then getting caught with all the evidence needed to convict him? No career to speak of. No accomplishment. He's no more genius than an average gangbanger and he's dumber than all the bangers that know to dump the gun. Stop glamorizing this idiot. He's a murdering fool that never did a damn thing and got caught quickly


Dude has a BS and a Masters from Penn State. His reading list, is impressive. He's in phenomenal physical shape. All evidence of structure and self control/discipline.

Read what he wrote about his experiences in Japan, he has an accurately diagnosed both the malaise impacting first world technologically addicted countries and the American healthcare/insurance unholy alliance.
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It was a customer that notified the McDonald's employee who then called cops. He was wearing a mask inside and cops asked if he'd been to NY recently when he started to shake and remained quiet. Would like to see if there is body cam footage of this confrontation and arrest.

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Nothing in there requires any special insight. A 26 year old who works out and is in great shape - News at 11. The Rikers boys are gonna appreciate the pretty shape he's kept himself in
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His mother got screwed over by her body, not UHC.
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P.H. Dexippus said:

His mother got screwed over by her body, not UHC.


The process is a hassle, but when a stream of docs can't figure out what was going on, I am gonna need to understand why murdering the insurance company CEO is an answer. The horror of collecting copays and an hassle documentation process as you hop from doc to doc to doc.

And I saw no specifics about his situation with the insco. Looks to me that he got an extremely expensive surgery to deal with what he did to himself

Seems like an angry guy in pain from his own doing who then screwed up his brain

Here's what the insurance company didn't do. They didn't kill his mom and they didn't kill him. He's the killer here.
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DannyDuberstein said:

Nothing in there requires any special insight. A 26 year old who works out and is in great shape - News at 11. The Rikers boys are gonna appreciate the pretty shape he's kept himself in


Dude he was valedictorian of his high school, who read esoteric novels and kept in great shape. He's not your run of the mill pantywaist antifa.

Don't dwell on man on man rape, it's weird
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Some prep school. Meh. What did he do with his education? Nothing.

And all that genius landed him at Rikers. Fact.
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Nanomachines son said:



Looks like his mother got screwed by the system too, just like he did.
Not his manifesto.
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[Stop derailing the thread or take a timeout -- Staff]
Sea Speed
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For real. People need to read stuff.
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[Calling out moderation won't get you anywhere but a ban. We've cleaned up this thread to keep it focused on the crime, motivation, hunt for the suspect, arrest, and next steps. If you want to explore the suspect's possible use of narcotics, start a different thread -- Staff]
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Nanomachines son said:



Looks like his mother got screwed by the system too, just like he did.


Guy's family was loaded to the point health insurance probably didn't apply to them...
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Going to be a media circus with this guy.

In the hearing he implies the money found on him was planted by the cops.


DannyDuberstein
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Boy genius making arguments in court vs keeping his mouth shut.

Also, "they sprinkled some crack on me" would be more believable than "Altoona cops planted $10,000 on me"

His brain is fried
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Also, boy genius - defender of the poor - went to a prep school that costs $40,000 per year
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DannyDuberstein said:

Boy genius making arguments in court vs keeping his mouth shut.

Also, "they sprinkled some crack on me" would be more believable than "Altoona cops planted $10,000 on me"

His brain is fried


I think the reason he wants to distance himself from the money is it goes against his anti-capitalist ideals and his Crusading little guy striking back against the evil corporation theme. The typical criminal martyr isn't so well funded by their family's generational wealth.
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