That dude showed his face.
They'll get him shortly when someone drops a dime on him.
They'll get him shortly when someone drops a dime on him.
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United Healthcare CEO shot and killed in NYC
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Those look like different people too. bridge of nose looks different, and eyes look different
You do not have a soul. You are a soul that has a body.
We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
ABATTBQ11 said:MarkTwain said:TexasAggie_02 said:MarkTwain said:lunchbox said:NEW: Photos of the man who killed UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson pic.twitter.com/PWLAHHgNpA
— BNO News Live (@BNODesk) December 5, 2024
Different backpack different coat curious as to how they are tying this guy to the perp
Looks the same to me, just different white balance on the photos
Geez.
No upper front pockets on the masked perp coat
Backpack contrast is completely different
The new release is a black or dark charcoal backpack
The perp is light gray
White balance? Please
Those might not be from the same day.
Okay again I ask how are they tying the unmasked guy to the actual perp? Different clothes different accessories what facial features we can see look different. Only similarities are the race.
People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because hard men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
Come on Ags, you can do better! Clearly AI strikes again!
ABATTBQ11 said:MarkTwain said:TexasAggie_02 said:MarkTwain said:lunchbox said:NEW: Photos of the man who killed UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson pic.twitter.com/PWLAHHgNpA
— BNO News Live (@BNODesk) December 5, 2024
Different backpack different coat curious as to how they are tying this guy to the perp
Looks the same to me, just different white balance on the photos
Geez.
No upper front pockets on the masked perp coat
Backpack contrast is completely different
The new release is a black or dark charcoal backpack
The perp is light gray
White balance? Please
Those might not be from the same day.
Well then what value is that. Just a photo of a guy wearing a jacket with a black mask (which is likely not that uncommon if it is cold out).
I keep hearing people say this was a "professional hit by a paid assassin".
I'm not buying it. A pro would at least be wearing a COVID mask and wouldnt have to rack the slide multiple times when firing. I've seen Chicago gang hits that were better executed.
I'm not buying it. A pro would at least be wearing a COVID mask and wouldnt have to rack the slide multiple times when firing. I've seen Chicago gang hits that were better executed.
It's 100% a different jacket.
The brand/whatever tag on the left breast pocket is vertical in the pictures with no mask on and horizontal in the pictures with mask on.
Top it off that it probably isn't the same color.
The brand/whatever tag on the left breast pocket is vertical in the pictures with no mask on and horizontal in the pictures with mask on.
Top it off that it probably isn't the same color.
No one is begrudging your medical plight and costs.
The problem is 60% of Americans are obese and it impacts health care costs more than anything else.
In car insurance parlance, your the guy who was a safe driver, maintained his car and and kept air in the tires. But one day a rock flew up from a truck and hit your windshield causing an accident. The obese Americans are the ones who drive 20 over, swerve around in the rain on bald tires and don't maintain their cars. The system needs to incentivize everyone to be healthy or if not, you get to pay more.
The problem is 60% of Americans are obese and it impacts health care costs more than anything else.
In car insurance parlance, your the guy who was a safe driver, maintained his car and and kept air in the tires. But one day a rock flew up from a truck and hit your windshield causing an accident. The obese Americans are the ones who drive 20 over, swerve around in the rain on bald tires and don't maintain their cars. The system needs to incentivize everyone to be healthy or if not, you get to pay more.
Again.
Racking the slide was likely the result of either
1) the suppressor limiting gas flow to fully operate the slide
2) possibly sub-sonic rounds (doubtful as these were 9mm unless he hand loaded)
3) use of a slide lock to further quite the weapon
The shooter NEVER looked at the breech or investigated the Failure to Feed. He knew the weapon would FTF. Not saying he was a hired pro. But he was certainly prepared in the function of his weapon.
Racking the slide was likely the result of either
1) the suppressor limiting gas flow to fully operate the slide
2) possibly sub-sonic rounds (doubtful as these were 9mm unless he hand loaded)
3) use of a slide lock to further quite the weapon
The shooter NEVER looked at the breech or investigated the Failure to Feed. He knew the weapon would FTF. Not saying he was a hired pro. But he was certainly prepared in the function of his weapon.
Not familiar with a slide lock, but that shouldn't result in unfired rounds on the ground, right?
Yeah, prepared as an average Joe at the shooting range. I'm not questioning the reason for the malfunction, just that a professional hit man wouldn't use a gun/build prone to malfunction, or a gun he hadn't yet shot to know it may FTF.
He absolutely did look at it, as he walked and slapped the slide to charge, he was looking at it. Watch the vid again.
Kenneth_2003 said:
The shooter NEVER looked at the breech or investigated the Failure to Feed. He knew the weapon would FTF.
He absolutely did look at it, as he walked and slapped the slide to charge, he was looking at it. Watch the vid again.
New photo showing an UNMASKED suspect killer of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson.
— sumit 🇮🇳 (@sumit45678901) December 5, 2024
here is a reward of up to $10,000 for information leading to an arrest and conviction.
This comes after it was revealed bullet casings had messages of “deny,” “depose,” and “defend,” per ABC. pic.twitter.com/wCEzKejrtt
Comparing the two photos in the tweet from BNO News Live, that is the same person. But yes I, agree we are seeing two different people in the complete series of photos. They don't look alike, beyond the coat and backpack.MarkTwain said:TexasAggie_02 said:MarkTwain said:lunchbox said:NEW: Photos of the man who killed UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson pic.twitter.com/PWLAHHgNpA
— BNO News Live (@BNODesk) December 5, 2024
Different backpack different coat curious as to how they are tying this guy to the perp
Looks the same to me, just different white balance on the photos
Geez.
No upper front pockets on the masked perp coat
Backpack contrast is completely different
The new release is a black or dark charcoal backpack
The perp is light gray
White balance? Please
MsDoubleD81 said:
That photo looks like a female.
Trans denied "life saving" care ???
This is a bad take at least when it comes to me. I grew up in a singe mom household. My dad, mom, and younger brother have all been arrested for felonies and my brother went to TDCJ at 20.Not Coach Jimbo said:Tom Fox said:
The answer is simple. Eliminate health insurance. You pay cash when you are treated and let the free market dictate pricing.
It will be cheaper for everyone and save us trillions in tax revenue.
There have been several hot takes in this thread that make me realize that some posters have no clue what it's like to really struggle, nor have they dealt with much in their life thus far. Whether it be with bills or losses of loved ones etc.
Not trying to degrade yall, hell, kind of envy you at this point. Enjoy it while it lasts.
To the poster back on page 2 or 3, if your thought is "you'll just end up in jail and your family sued" ... When there is nothing left to jail or sue, it's a little irrelevant.
We were poor. I lived my entire life prior to leaving for the military sharing a bedroom in our trailer.
After the military, I was a cop. The garbage man for the rich. I did not attend law school until 37 and was a prosecutor right out of school. I worked at Lowes while in law school to support my wife a newborn daughter.
I'm now the managing partner of my law firm and make close to 7 figures. My younger brother that went to prison for drug trafficking owns his own fabrication shop and makes mid 6 figures.
So do not for a second think I do not know what it is like to be poor and have to struggle and sacrifice for success. Coming from my background, I also know that most people in that world are there from their own choices.
It is not my job to provide the food, clothing, housing or medical care. Those are not rights guaranteed by the constitution. I am being taxed through the nose to support oxygen thieves and people that would not have survived even just 100 years ago.
So step off of your high horse. We either live in a capitalist society based on meritocracy and rugged individualism or we don't.
Diff jacket. Diff backpack.
After the Russia hoax, covid and hunter's laptop…Occam's razor points directly to an elaborate psyop by federal agencies.
After the Russia hoax, covid and hunter's laptop…Occam's razor points directly to an elaborate psyop by federal agencies.
ABATTBQ11 said:
What drives health insurance premiums and denials on larger claims is the collective insuring of all of the minor issues you go to a PCP for with low or no copays. That's death by 1000 cuts for insurers because it's basically guaranteed expenses that inflate their losses. They'll charge higher premiums to make up for the coverage and losses, and they'll deny larger claims because it requires less administrative burden for more return. If people would pay $125 2-5 times a year and go with much more basic catastrophic coverage instead of spending $300/mth to keep a $20 copay, everyone would be better off, but people don't seem to want that kind of savings because it covers with point of service sticker shock. Throwing money at insurance and only spending $20-$30 at the doctor makes healthcare feel cheaper, even if it isn't, and it's easier to blame insurers for their prices than their customers for what they're demanding.
Please tell us where we can buy one of these policies (like my car insurance example)????
Oh wait, DebacleCare made those illegal
Good question and I don't know the answer. Just what I've heard on TV (yeah they're experts for sure).GAC06 said:
Not familiar with a slide lock, but that shouldn't result in unfired rounds on the ground, right?
Leads me to think he certainly didn't have a "good" setup. Maybe a setup that was ejecting but wasn't fully going into battery? So rather than tapping the slide into battery he was racking? Which did eject an un-fired round?
Again, he's no pro for sure. But he knew his weapon platform well enough to make it work effectively. Not efficiently, but effectively.
Kenneth_2003 said:
Again.
Racking the slide was likely the result of either
1) the suppressor limiting gas flow to fully operate the slide
2) possibly sub-sonic rounds (doubtful as these were 9mm unless he hand loaded)
3) use of a slide lock to further quite the weapon
The shooter NEVER looked at the breech or investigated the Failure to Feed. He knew the weapon would FTF. Not saying he was a hired pro. But he was certainly prepared in the function of his weapon.
Subs in 9mm are easily available and don't have to be hand loads. Plenty of manufacturers produce them. They actually aren't that expensive. Cheaper than defense loads.
Been living apart from the rib...
Brian Thompson, 50, and his wife, Paulette "Pauley" Thompson, had been living in separate homes less than a mile from each other in Maple Grove, Minnesota, for years, the Wall Street Journal reports.
Thompson, a father of two, purchased his separate $1 million home near his family in 2018, according to public real estate records.
https://nypost.com/2024/12/05/us-news/assassinated-unitedhealthcare-ceo-brian-thomson-and-wife-had-lived-separately-for-years-report/
Brian Thompson, 50, and his wife, Paulette "Pauley" Thompson, had been living in separate homes less than a mile from each other in Maple Grove, Minnesota, for years, the Wall Street Journal reports.
Thompson, a father of two, purchased his separate $1 million home near his family in 2018, according to public real estate records.
https://nypost.com/2024/12/05/us-news/assassinated-unitedhealthcare-ceo-brian-thomson-and-wife-had-lived-separately-for-years-report/
Ahh, good to knowPinochet said:Kenneth_2003 said:
Again.
Racking the slide was likely the result of either
1) the suppressor limiting gas flow to fully operate the slide
2) possibly sub-sonic rounds (doubtful as these were 9mm unless he hand loaded)
3) use of a slide lock to further quite the weapon
The shooter NEVER looked at the breech or investigated the Failure to Feed. He knew the weapon would FTF. Not saying he was a hired pro. But he was certainly prepared in the function of his weapon.
Subs in 9mm are easily available and don't have to be hand loads. Plenty of manufacturers produce them. They actually aren't that expensive. Cheaper than defense loads.
I've only shot .22 in sub-sonic. But I've never really had a need for sub in a larger caliber.
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And completely different faces (sorry if someone has mentioned this already). Not even close to the same person. Look at nose, jawline, chin, face structure.MarkTwain said:lunchbox said:NEW: Photos of the man who killed UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson pic.twitter.com/PWLAHHgNpA
— BNO News Live (@BNODesk) December 5, 2024
Different backpack different coat curious as to how they are tying this guy to the perp
$10K reward for a CEO who made $10M a year.
IMO this is what happens when people lose faith in the legal system or have no hope against "the man" because the large corporations are too well lawyered up to stand a chance. Its a sad state we are in and I can easily see someone lose it like this when they don't see any other options available. Its an unfortunate reality that this could now be a sort of check and balance against such corporate tyranny.
You're confusing approving or celebrating with just not caring. As I stated previously in this thread, there is a difference.Rapier108 said:
It is truly sad how many people are either openly or tacitly approving of gunning down someone in cold blood because he or she works for an entity they don't like.
Do you people really want to see this country devolve on our own version of The Troubles, where people slaughter one another for any reason they feel like?
And because the first response will claim I'm defending the insurance industry, I'm not. Regardless of how screwed up that system is, it is not justification for what happened yesterday, or for future killings which some like this "Unity of Fields" idiot are implying.
He and his leadership team lead a company that makes decisions each day to deny needed care to people that results in long-term QOL issues or death so it's profit numbers look good. They do not care what the end result of their denial is for that individual. The murder, while tragic, is seen by many to be nothing more than him getting the same treatment many received from the decisions he and his leadership drove down for the company to follow. Gunman or denied medical care, it's the same in the end.
It looked like a rifle size suppressor to me. Good chance he didn't have Neilsen device (AKA Piston) installed that will allow the barrel to tilt back. That would keep the pistol from cycling.Kenneth_2003 said:
Again.
Racking the slide was likely the result of either
1) the suppressor limiting gas flow to fully operate the slide
2) possibly sub-sonic rounds (doubtful as these were 9mm unless he hand loaded)
3) use of a slide lock to further quite the weapon
The shooter NEVER looked at the breech or investigated the Failure to Feed. He knew the weapon would FTF. Not saying he was a hired pro. But he was certainly prepared in the function of his weapon.
147 Grain 9mm over the counter rounds are almost always going to be subsonic in a pistol length barrel (+P or +P+ might not be IDK). 124 Grain will be subsonic most of the time in pistol length barrel but not a PCC.
I've shot a lot of 147s and 124s out of various 9mm pistols and PCCs. I don't think I've ever had a failure to feed due to subsonic ammo in a 9mm pistol. PCCs, yes, but usually because it's hollow points or flat nose ammo that my MP5 clone doesn't like.
.22 subs yes, but they don't even need a Neilsen device.
It's not impossible, it could be that the ammo he was using wasn't powerful enough to rack the slide, but I think there's a better chance it didn't have a Neilsen device or he was using different ammo than in the past (likely hollow points or similar) that didn't like the feed ramp.
Could have been an 80% glock or similar that was slightly out of spec. I have one that shoots 357 Sig great, but won't feed 9mm or .40.
Also, good chance it was a home made suppressor like a solvent trap that lacked a Neilsen device.
This is why it's very important to practice with your carry gun with the ammo that you're going to carry. Even if it's expensive it's worth a few boxes to make sure that your gun runs that ammo dependably.
Good into, thanks
Still haven't made the jump into the DD world. Have one threaded 9mm that's ready, just haven't taken the plunge yet.
Still haven't made the jump into the DD world. Have one threaded 9mm that's ready, just haven't taken the plunge yet.
Wait until the next hard recession or depression 2.0...when good honest people who have always done things the right way and have sacrificed tremendously to take care of their families are starting to feel the pain/crunch...as they continue to observe one "justice system" for themselves, and completely different one for violent murderers, hardened criminals, and big execs...watch out. Might see vigilante justice start to take off as people feel "cornered" and like they have less to lose.javajaws said:
IMO this is what happens when people lose faith in the legal system or have no hope against "the man" because the large corporations are too well lawyered up to stand a chance. Its a sad state we are in and I can easily see someone lose it like this when they don't see any other options available. Its an unfortunate reality that this could now be a sort of check and balance against such corporate tyranny.
And it could have all been avoided.
As long as you're rich and powerful in America you can just about get away with anything
Looks like Paul Atreides A.K.A Lisan Al Gaib.
They will soon identify this guy if haven't already. In these digital times with cell phones and video cameras everywhere, extremely difficult to get clean away with something like this.
So three discharged casings with clear headstamp and extraction marks on the shell casings. And three unfired casings with no headstamp and extraction marks on the shell casings, only etched words of a book title about insurance policy stuff. A cellphone found a block away in an alley and a water bottle found along the escape route 100 yards from the phone.
Somehow in the trash ridden alleys of NYC there's a random water bottle and a cellphone is supposed to be surprising?
Honestly sounds like they are just reaching to try and put someone in custody to easy the media pressure so this can all be memory holed.
Somehow in the trash ridden alleys of NYC there's a random water bottle and a cellphone is supposed to be surprising?
Honestly sounds like they are just reaching to try and put someone in custody to easy the media pressure so this can all be memory holed.
People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because hard men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
During the PC yesterday, they said something to the effect of "we tracked him to the X entrance of Central Park."Pumpkinhead said:
They will soon identify this guy if haven't already. In these digital times with cell phones and video cameras everywhere, extremely difficult to get clean away with something like this.
They didn't say they lost him...
It's really more of a novelty than anything on a pistol. There's just not many practical applications for them outside of shooting at your private range without annoying your neighbors or assassination. They're long and unwieldy, don't fit in a holster and are usually too long to fit in a hand safe in your bedroom. They also typically have to be carefully threaded onto your pistol unlike a rifle with a quick detach fitting. They can also reduce the reliability of a gun you use to protect your life and the back pressure will cause a lot of soot to build up internally.Kenneth_2003 said:
Good into, thanks
Still haven't made the jump into the DD world. Have one threaded 9mm that's ready, just haven't taken the plunge yet.
They are a game changer on rifles though. Once you start shooting rifles suppressed, you will not want to shoot them any other way. The high velocity rifles will still be very loud and require hearing protection, but suppressors take a lot of the edge off. Shooting subs is a lot of fun. Even then the action of the gun can be pretty loud and I prefer wearing Ear Pro.
22 with standard velocity ammo is the way to go if you want movie quiet and is just a blast to shoot. Suppressors on 22 pistols make a lot more sense than the bigger calibers.
I hate that this guy used one, because it is bad for the 2A community and the efforts to overturn the NFA classification of suppressors. They are a muffler just like we are legally required to have on a car. It gives the left ammunition to label them as dangerous and unusual in the court of public opinion. I hope it turns out to be Chineseium and not a registered NFA item.
It's a Beretta Cx4 Storm. 9mm carbineaggieforester05 said:It's really more of a novelty than anything on a pistol. There's just not many practical applications for them outside of shooting at your private range without annoying your neighbors or assassination. They're long and unwieldy, don't fit in a holster and are usually too long to fit in a hand safe in your bedroom. They also typically have to be carefully threaded onto your pistol unlike a rifle with a quick detach fitting. They can also reduce the reliability of a gun you use to protect your life and the back pressure will cause a lot of soot to build up internally.Kenneth_2003 said:
Good into, thanks
Still haven't made the jump into the DD world. Have one threaded 9mm that's ready, just haven't taken the plunge yet.
They are a game changer on rifles though. Once you start shooting rifles suppressed, you will not want to shoot them any other way. The high velocity rifles will still be very loud and require hearing protection, but suppressors take a lot of the edge off. Shooting subs is a lot of fun. Even then the action of the gun can be pretty loud and I prefer wearing Ear Pro.
22 with standard velocity ammo is the way to go if you want movie quiet and is just a blast to shoot. Suppressors on 22 pistols make a lot more sense than the bigger calibers.
I hate that this guy used one, because it is bad for the 2A community and the efforts to overturn the NFA classification of suppressors. They are a muffler just like we are legally required to have on a car. It gives the left ammunition to label them as dangerous and unusual in the court of public opinion. I hope it turns out to be Chineseium and not a registered NFA item.