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Political and economic turmoil in the EU significantly harms the United States. Bizarre that you'd root for such a thing.

Ha! Sort of reminds me of the old days and the "Let the ****ards Freeze in the Dark" bumper stickers I remember as a kid. They were all over Houston in the early 70s. See: https://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/let_the_*******s_freeze_in_the_dark_drive_80_mph_and_freeze_a_yankee

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Question for you upstream folks:

What does this do to Russia's gas wells? Is gas a bit different than oil and you can just shut them in for a bit?

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One is a liquid. One is a gas. Very different.

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Sarcasm noted! Whether a well produces mostly oil/mostly gas/blend of both…both types of wells can be capped (temporary) or shut in permanently (aka P&A'd meaning plugged and abandoned).

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Putin Says Russia Will Honor Gas Commitment But Flows Will Drop As Much As 20% Of Capacity

ussian President Vladimir Putin eased tensions when he said that Russia would fulfill its commitments to supply natural gas to Europe, but he warned that flows via the Nord Stream pipeline could be curbed soon if sanctions prevent additional maintenance on its components.

Translation: as we predicted, Putin will resume NS1 flows, but at levels at or below the pre-repair "new normal" of 40%.

But he added that flows might fall to some 20% of capacity as soon as next week if a critical pipeline turbine that was undergoing repairs in Canada isn't returned to Russia soon. Putin said that another turbine had to go for maintenance on July 26.

Even before the maintenance began, Gazprom last month cut deliveries on the pipeline to 40% of its capacity, blaming Canadian sanctions that had prevented the return of the turbine being repaired there. European officials have dismissed the turbine explanation as a pretext for Moscow to try and wreak economic havoc on the continent.

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/putin-says-russia-will-honor-gas-commitment-flows-will-drop-much-20-capacity

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Putin is playing 4D chess. NATO/EU are playing candy crush.


Judo strategy is based on three elementsrapid movement, flexibility, and leverageeach of which translates into a competitive principle. The first principle requires judo players to move rapidly to new markets and uncontested ground, thus avoiding head-to-head combat.

Putin has often used his participation in judo as a tool of propaganda to support his macho, tough guy image. Almost every profile of Putin includes statements that he is a good, strong, athlete, and an expert with incredible judo skills. He is described as a 'keen judoka' and much is made of him attending 2012 London Olympic Games to watch judo. He received his first-degree black belt when he was 19, and currently holds an 8th degree.



The Russians might not be performing at that well in Ukraine but they sure as hell are beating the crap out of the EU in their economies.....

Coming soon to a theater near you.

Germany (and the EU) has a giant **** sandwich to eat.

Option A) Tank the economy by shutting down large manufacturers to conserve LNG for the winter. People might not freeze but a large portion of the population won't have jobs in October.

Option B) Keep the plants running, severely piss off the population by cutting their ability to take hot showers, cook meals, and keep their lights on. Cold showers and cold food are fine for a few days but about two to three weeks of that is going to cause absolute chaos.

Option C) Bail on NATO and make nice with the Russians immediately.

It's like the Marcellus Wallace/Zed scene in Pulp Fiction, the only problem is Bruce Willis isn't coming to save them.

Don't forget food shortages!

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Don't forget food shortages!

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As a rule, European kitchens are very small and do not have space for a lot of food storage. They have to shop for food much more often than Americans do. So they are behind the 8 ball there as well.

Infection_Ag11 said:

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Fireman said:

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**** em. Let them live off solar and wind energy.

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Political and economic turmoil in the EU significantly harms the United States. Bizarre that you'd root for such a thing.

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We've had political and economic turmoil in the EU for years. Letting liberal politicians in the EU taste what life is like without fossil fuel energy, will be an important wake-up call for these morons.

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Germany (and the EU) has a giant **** sandwich to eat.

Option A) Tank the economy by shutting down large manufacturers to conserve LNG for the winter. People might not freeze but a large portion of the population won't have jobs in October.

Option B) Keep the plants running, severely piss off the population by cutting their ability to take hot showers, cook meals, and keep their lights on. Cold showers and cold food are fine for a few days but about two to three weeks of that is going to cause absolute chaos.

Option C) Bail on NATO and make nice with the Russians immediately.

It's like the Marcellus Wallace/Zed scene in Pulp Fiction, the only problem is Bruce Willis isn't coming to save them.

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Decent chance the EU dissolves over this. Something has to give at some point and if SHTF hard this winter like it could then the people are going to tell their government to ****can all of these energy shell games and force them to make nice with Russia to get heat.

It would also give Russia what they want - a fractured EU.

We are about to find out.

How hard did globohomo anti-brexit?

Now they all up **** creek wanting to make their own deals.

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Don't forget food shortages!

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As a rule, European kitchens are very small and do not have space for a lot of food storage. They have to shop for food much more often than Americans do. So they are behind the 8 ball there as well.

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I had mentioned this in another thread. It'll give the gov't wide latitude on rationing.

This is going to impact the US as well. Our crops this year I think are going to come in way short. Between massive droughts, cost of fuel for farming/transportation and overall decline in yield/AC I can only imagine we're going to see a bad harvest in Sept. And that's when things are going to get difficult.

With increased shortages in fertilizer, winter harvest is going to produce less. It'll only take a few poor harvests to have a lasting impact. And as bad as it will be in the EU it will be tragically worse in those countries which import the majority of their calories.

WFP is already ringing the alarm bells.

This is how WWIII really kicks off, civil unrest/war within countries. Those countries that can attack their neighbors may be forced to. It won't be Allies vs Axis, it'll just be a world-wide meltdown.

In the western hemisphere, we're already melting down. Just look at the mass migration of people flowing north, several countries are currently teetering.

https://www.worldbank.org/en/topic/agriculture/brief/food-security-update

As of July 15, 18 countries have implemented 27 food export bans, and seven have implemented 11 export-limiting measures.

Globally, hunger levels remain alarmingly high. According to the 2022 State of Food Insecurity in the World (SOFI) report, the number of people affected by hunger rose in 2021 to 828 million, an increase of about 46 million since 2020 and 150 million since 2019, before the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic. In addition, WFP and FAO warned that acute food insecurity could worsen in 20 countries or areas during June to September 2022.
Rapid phone surveys done by the World Bank in 83 countries show a significant number of people running out of food or reducing their consumption in the first two years of the COVID-19 pandemic. Reduced calorie intake and compromised nutrition threaten gains in poverty reduction and health and could have lasting impacts on the cognitive development of young children.

This was before Putin got involved in Ukraine. There will be over a billion on the brink this year.

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Sounds like our Ivy League products.

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Some people are so sure they are smart enough to make the impossible possible.

Marxism can't work. Ending fossil fuels can't work. ESG-powered economy can't work.

"Stupid" people like me, Trump or DeSantis realize this from every example from history.

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German Cities Turn Off Hot Water And Cut Lighting At Government Buildings

Cities in Germany are switching off spotlights on public monuments, turning off fountains, and imposing cold showers on municipal swimming pools and sports halls, as the country races to reduce its energy consumption in the face of a looming Russian gas crisis.

Hanover in north-west Germany on Wednesday became the first large city to announce energy-saving measures, including turning off hot water in the showers and bathrooms of city-run buildings and leisure centres.

Municipal buildings in the Lower Saxony state capital will only be heated from 1 October to 31 March, at no more than 20C (68F) room temperature, and ban the use of mobile air conditioning units and fan heaters. Nurseries, schools, care homes and hospitals are to be exempt from the saving measures

Germany uses most of its gas imports to heat homes and power its large industry. But while an energy emergency plan initiated in June enables utility firms to pass on high gas prices to customers, most private households in Germany pay their gas bills in set advance payments and have yet to directly experience the kind of dramatic increases that would change consumer behaviour.

Germany also uses gas to generate about 15% of its electricity needs, which is where municipal authorities have decided to make relatively painless savings.

The city of Munich, in Germany's south, this week announced it would switch off spotlights on its town hall on Marienplatz square, which is usually lit up until 11pm, and have only cold water at municipal offices. Fountains would also be turned off at night.


Nuremberg is closing three of its four city-run indoor swimming pools and will keep its outdoor lidos open until 25 September.

In April, Berlin had announced measures to keep its outdoor swimming pools at two degrees below the weather-dependent standard temperature throughout the summer season.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/28/german-cities-impose-cold-showers-and-turn-off-fountains-in-face-of-russian-gas-crisis

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July 24, 2022, 3:17 AM CDT
The French government is doubling down on calls to save energy amid rising prices and the war in Ukraine.

Agnes Pannier-Runacher, minister for energy transition, said steps include a ban on illuminated advertising at night, except at train stations and airports, and preventing stores from keeping doors open when air conditioning or heating is on. This will allow businesses to cut their energy bills by 20%, she told the Journal du Dimanche in an interview

Macron has urged companies, citizens and local administrations to work on contingency plans during the summer to avoid a difficult winter as Europe grapples with its worst energy supply crunch in decades.

Pannier-Runacher also urged companies to promote lower speed on roads. Stricter speed limits dictated by the state, in addition to a tax on fuel, had contributed to the emergence of the grassroots Yellow Vest movement to protest economic inequality in 2018.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-07-24/french-minister-outlines-plan-to-save-energy-amid-crisis

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Shops leaving doors open while pumping out air conditioning face $767 fine as crackdown begins in Europe


European governments are urging their citizens to be mindful of their electricity usage, as the threat of even more restrictive energy shortfalls and rationing measures loom.

French shopkeepers are now expected to keep their doors shut while their air conditioning is turned on, Agnes Pannier-Runacher, France's minister of ecological transition, announced on Sunday.

Having air conditioning on with doors open could lead to "20% more consumption," Runacher told French RMC Radio, adding that such a situation would be "absurd" given the current tight energy supply in Europe.

French businesses will also have to cut back on their use of illuminated signs and advertising, Runacher said in another interview with French weekly newspaper Journal du Dimanche on Sunday.


Runacher added that two separate decrees would be issued "in the coming days" that would address the use of air conditioning and illuminated lighting, the latter of which will be limited between 1 am and 6 am across the country with the exception of airports and train stations.

While speaking with RMC, Runacher cautioned that businesses who do not comply with these rulings would create "unfair disadvantages" for their competition, and so would be liable to be fined up to 750 euros ($767) if they fail to limit electricity use through the new measures.

https://fortune.com/2022/07/25/france-air-conditioning-shops-close-doors-energy-crisis/

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Call me crazy but this is what I would imagine what a Great Reset looks like. Oct 2022 thru April 2023 are going to be a *****.....

Rhine runs dry in new threat to German energy

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Power plant faces 'irregular operation' as key waterway reaches critical level

Germany's Rhine river is on the brink of closure as critically low water levels force one of the country's biggest gas companies to warn it may have to cut energy output.

Uniper said there could be an "irregular operation" at its 510-megawatt, coal-fired Staudinger-5 plant until early September because of disruptions to coal supplies along the waterway.

Water levels on the Rhine have sunk amid drought-like conditions afflicting most of the continent. Low levels around key chokepoints force the barges that traverse the river to take on smaller loads, and may reach levels where passage is impossible.

Several major companies, including chemicals giant BASF, use the Rhine, which runs for nearly 800 miles from Switzerland to the North Sea, as a supply line and source of water for cooling machinery.

Deutsche Bank warned low Rhine levels risk a repeat of 2018, when a hot summer led to severe lows at the Kaub bottleneck during the autumn that took 0.2 percentage points off German growth.

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well, the thing that sucks is that real germany, just like real america, was one of the foundations of decent humanity.

just like britain, australia, canada, etc.

that is why the globalist elite destroyed us all. they run everything, and they are taking out what was left of the most tolerant, ethical, self-sufficient, independent, educated, and competent culture in history.

so it's not really something to rejoice over.

real, decent working germans that were not fooled by their communist education bull**** and crap politics, and are still trying to be human and run their lives under the radar, are going to suffer. they were our brethren.

we are not far behind at all.

if you have ethics, competency, and treat people well, whereever you live on earth, you are under attack from the same cadre of people.

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Lo and behold, the Wall Street Journal reports, Germany has second thoughts about shutting down those plants too:

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German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said for the first time that his government could postpone the planned closure of its remaining nuclear reactors, as he criticized a decision by Russia to constrain gas flows to Germanya move that could deal a severe blow to Europe's largest economy. …

On Tuesday, the chancellor broke with a longstanding policy and said for the first time that it "could make sense" to keep Germany's last three nuclear reactors online. They are due to be shut down in December as part of the country's transition to renewable energy.
Germany decided to phase out nuclear power over two decades ago, a plan that was greatly accelerated by former Chancellor Angela Merkel following the ***ushima nuclear plant disaster in 2011.

The three remaining reactors generate 6% of Germany's electricity. Plans to replace them with gas were upset by the economic war with Russia, Germany's main energy supplier.
The news comes as the global energy crisis, soaring prices for fossil fuels and climate concerns stir new interest in nuclear power. Some argue that nuclear power will be needed as a bridge as the world transitions to renewable energy. The U.K., Poland and the Netherlands all plan to build new nuclear reactors.

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Lo and behold, the Wall Street Journal reports, Germany has second thoughts about shutting down those plants too:

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German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said for the first time that his government could postpone the planned closure of its remaining nuclear reactors, as he criticized a decision by Russia to constrain gas flows to Germanya move that could deal a severe blow to Europe's largest economy. …

On Tuesday, the chancellor broke with a longstanding policy and said for the first time that it "could make sense" to keep Germany's last three nuclear reactors online. They are due to be shut down in December as part of the country's transition to renewable energy.
Germany decided to phase out nuclear power over two decades ago, a plan that was greatly accelerated by former Chancellor Angela Merkel following the ***ushima nuclear plant disaster in 2011.

The three remaining reactors generate 6% of Germany's electricity. Plans to replace them with gas were upset by the economic war with Russia, Germany's main energy supplier.
The news comes as the global energy crisis, soaring prices for fossil fuels and climate concerns stir new interest in nuclear power. Some argue that nuclear power will be needed as a bridge as the world transitions to renewable energy. The U.K., Poland and the Netherlands all plan to build new nuclear reactors.

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The climate change delusion is strong with the Germans. They've cut their own throats. The Dems here in the this country are just as delusional.

Putin and Xi don't need to invade anything. Just give the west time and we will implode on our own. Putin and Xi should use the climate change hysteria and delusion as a weapon.

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Of course the cynical thing would be for Germany to get the pipeline flow restored by giving up on the Ukraine boycott and mollifying Russia. THEN, build like they did in 1930's at a madcap pace militarily, so they can impose sanctions from a stronger position whenever Putin goes after his next country.

This is different from appeasement because it would be part of a planned ramp up for fighting. Buying time when you know that is all you are doing is not appeasement but strategy.

Appeasement means you "give them what they want" and YOU continue as before. It is not if you are using the time for full militarization. Appeasement should not be confused with a deliberate delaying tactic.

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1. What an interesting new definition of appeasement. Give Russia the Ukraine and build for a better day when Putin angles for some other country. How many more will be a part of this non-appeasement before Germany builds up its defense? Isn't that what Nevelle Chamberlain was promoting? He gave up on country after country hoping it would sate Hitler's appetite. It only fueled it.
2. How expensive would that build up be and how long would it take? How many hundreds of billions each year until they get there?
3. Why would any western country agree to allow Russia to take over the Ukraine? Have you thought about the Ukraine's outsized importance to Europe in agriculture? The Ukraine exports steel, coal, fuel and petroleum products, chemicals, machinery and transport equipment in addition to the agriculture.

Infection_Ag11 said:

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**** em. Let them live off solar and wind energy.

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Political and economic turmoil in the EU significantly harms the United States. Bizarre that you'd root for such a thing.

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A little exercise...I've got a bet going with myself...

Can you admit that Trump was DEAD ON F-ING RIGHT when he was addressing those slimy aristocratic kraut MF'ers warning them on this issue, and they were laughing and mocking...and that he has turned out to be right MANY times with MANY things?

This is a big bet so I'm trusting you to be truthful.

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Lo and behold, the Wall Street Journal reports, Germany has second thoughts about shutting down those plants too:

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German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said for the first time that his government could postpone the planned closure of its remaining nuclear reactors, as he criticized a decision by Russia to constrain gas flows to Germanya move that could deal a severe blow to Europe's largest economy. …

On Tuesday, the chancellor broke with a longstanding policy and said for the first time that it "could make sense" to keep Germany's last three nuclear reactors online. They are due to be shut down in December as part of the country's transition to renewable energy.
Germany decided to phase out nuclear power over two decades ago, a plan that was greatly accelerated by former Chancellor Angela Merkel following the ***ushima nuclear plant disaster in 2011.

The three remaining reactors generate 6% of Germany's electricity. Plans to replace them with gas were upset by the economic war with Russia, Germany's main energy supplier.
The news comes as the global energy crisis, soaring prices for fossil fuels and climate concerns stir new interest in nuclear power. Some argue that nuclear power will be needed as a bridge as the world transitions to renewable energy. The U.K., Poland and the Netherlands all plan to build new nuclear reactors.

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"Could make sense"

"Some argue that nuclear power will be needed as a bridge as the world transitions to renewable energy"

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Of course the cynical thing would be for Germany to get the pipeline flow restored by giving up on the Ukraine boycott and mollifying Russia. THEN, build like they did in 1930's at a madcap pace militarily, so they can impose sanctions from a stronger position whenever Putin goes after his next country.

This is different from appeasement because it would be part of a planned ramp up for fighting. Buying time when you know that is all you are doing is not appeasement but strategy.

Appeasement means you "give them what they want" and YOU continue as before. It is not if you are using the time for full militarization. Appeasement should not be confused with a deliberate delaying tactic.

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1. What an interesting new definition of appeasement. Give Russia the Ukraine and build for a better day when Putin angles for some other country. How many more will be a part of this non-appeasement before Germany builds up its defense? Isn't that what Nevelle Chamberlain was promoting? He gave up on country after country hoping it would sate Hitler's appetite. It only fueled it.
2. How expensive would that build up be and how long would it take? How many hundreds of billions each year until they get there?
3. Why would any western country agree to allow Russia to take over the Ukraine? Have you thought about the Ukraine's outsized importance to Europe in agriculture? The Ukraine exports steel, coal, fuel and petroleum products, chemicals, machinery and transport equipment in addition to the agriculture.

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You didn't read it right even as quoting it. The bold is NOT what it was saying. The italics is quite the opposite.

Appeasement is giving way, and continuing as before. It is not the same as buying time knowingly. Boycotts are of very limited utility when from a single nation like Germany.

It is saying if you are Germany, you know you can't fight now- --- buy time and ramp up to fight in near-future. The OPPOSITE of hoping to sate an appetite, it is instead planning for the certainty of confrontation WHEN you have a chance to pull it off.

Its not a question of "agreeing" --- are you willing to fight to liberate them or not? As long as you can play Axis and Allies in the Spanish Civil War supplying a side with no consequence fine ---- but what if Russia ups the ante? Germany has made itself energy dependent -- what are they supposed to do in the immediate now? That's what the post was addressing.

Mind, this is talking about what Germany finds itself up against--not us sitting over here pontificating with plenty of energy potential if we wish to displace certain decisions.

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**** em. Let them live off solar and wind energy.

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Political and economic turmoil in the EU significantly harms the United States. Bizarre that you'd root for such a thing.

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A little exercise...I've got a bet going with myself...

Can you admit that Trump was DEAD ON F-ING RIGHT when he was addressing those slimy aristocratic kraut MF'ers warning them on this issue, and they were laughing and mocking...and that he has turned out to be right MANY times with MANY things?

This is a big bet so I'm trusting you to be truthful.

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I voted for Trump twice, so sure? It has no bearing on my post that you quoted though.

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Don't forget food shortages!

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As a rule, European kitchens are very small and do not have space for a lot of food storage. They have to shop for food much more often than Americans do. So they are behind the 8 ball there as well.

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I had mentioned this in another thread. It'll give the gov't wide latitude on rationing.

This is going to impact the US as well. Our crops this year I think are going to come in way short. Between massive droughts, cost of fuel for farming/transportation and overall decline in yield/AC I can only imagine we're going to see a bad harvest in Sept. And that's when things are going to get difficult.

With increased shortages in fertilizer, winter harvest is going to produce less. It'll only take a few poor harvests to have a lasting impact. And as bad as it will be in the EU it will be tragically worse in those countries which import the majority of their calories.

WFP is already ringing the alarm bells.

This is how WWIII really kicks off, civil unrest/war within countries. Those countries that can attack their neighbors may be forced to. It won't be Allies vs Axis, it'll just be a world-wide meltdown.

In the western hemisphere, we're already melting down. Just look at the mass migration of people flowing north, several countries are currently teetering.

https://www.worldbank.org/en/topic/agriculture/brief/food-security-update

As of July 15, 18 countries have implemented 27 food export bans, and seven have implemented 11 export-limiting measures.

Globally, hunger levels remain alarmingly high. According to the 2022 State of Food Insecurity in the World (SOFI) report, the number of people affected by hunger rose in 2021 to 828 million, an increase of about 46 million since 2020 and 150 million since 2019, before the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic. In addition, WFP and FAO warned that acute food insecurity could worsen in 20 countries or areas during June to September 2022.
Rapid phone surveys done by the World Bank in 83 countries show a significant number of people running out of food or reducing their consumption in the first two years of the COVID-19 pandemic. Reduced calorie intake and compromised nutrition threaten gains in poverty reduction and health and could have lasting impacts on the cognitive development of young children.

This was before Putin got involved in Ukraine. There will be over a billion on the brink this year.

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https://news.yahoo.com/europes-energy-crisis-gotten-bad-131837501.html

Europe's energy crisis has gotten so bad that French power stations are being allowed to break environmental rules as a fresh heatwave looks set to cause more chaos

"The River Rhine, one of the continent's most important rivers, is drying up amid the record-breaking summer heatwaves, Insider reported last month. The river is currently at its lowest level in at least 15 years, making moving goods including coal and gas in container ships down the river a challenge...

In a further issue for European energy supplies, Norway has also threatened to ration international electricity exports if domestic needs are not met, per The Guardian.

Water levels in southern Norway have been so low that the government has said it may need to prioritize its own citizens ahead of international customers, the news outlet said."

Several perfect storms are all aligning.

WashPost: "Germany is finally acting like Europe's major power"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/08/08/germany-leading-power-europe-russia/

Lol.

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Several perfect storms are all aligning.

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more like

"no storms are all aligning"

am i right?

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It's nearly like God will not be mocked.

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WashPost: "Germany is finally acting like Europe's major power"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/08/08/germany-leading-power-europe-russia/

Lol.

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France is a far more fitting leader of Europe. Hell right now, they should take over NATO leadership from our vegetables.

I find it entertaining that a lot of you folks can't see that this trend is inevitable and not stuck to Germany. It's like a last breath of traditional supremacy, soon to be defeated and forgotten.

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I find it entertaining that a lot of you folks can't see that this trend is inevitable and not stuck to Germany. It's like a last breath of traditional supremacy, soon to be defeated and forgotten.

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Daydreaming about communist utopias again?

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I find it entertaining that a lot of you folks can't see that this trend is inevitable and not stuck to Germany. It's like a last breath of traditional supremacy, soon to be defeated and forgotten.

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What, pray tell, is 'traditional supremacy?' What trend is inevitable?

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Wranglers_04 said:

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WashPost: "Germany is finally acting like Europe's major power"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/08/08/germany-leading-power-europe-russia/

Lol.

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France is a far more fitting leader of Europe. Hell right now, they should take over NATO leadership from our vegetables.

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Yes, this should seem obvious to everyone. Comparatively speaking, they are energy independent with all of their nuclear power and they have the most war fighting experience on the continent. Everyone else over there should be looking at France and asking themselves why they aren't copying them.

Granted, this is a bit of a one eyed man is king situation, but still....