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*** THE LAST OF US *** (Non-Gamer Thread)

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Ghost of Bisbee
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https://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastOfUs2/s/PgY3KOu90j
Phrasing
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Ghost of Bisbee said:

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastOfUs2/s/PgY3KOu90j


The only thing more perfect would be if right at the end Ellie says "Welp, I'm out. Good luck with that! C ya!" And just get up and walks out.
Madmarttigan
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The last of us gamer reddit absolutely hates her and the show.

I don't have a super strong opinion on her but yeah wife stopped watching and not sure if I want to continue or not.
Ghost of Bisbee
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It has to be one of the worst casting flops of all time
StinkyPinky
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LB12Diamond said:

Yes

That sequence was the same one that made me think, looks like bad time to stop sniffing glue.

And the next day TexAgs sponsors asked what's your fav thing to put in a taco. Coincidence? I think not!
Lol.
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Was Bella Ramsey this bad in season 1? I loved it and remember thinking the whole cast did a great job, but the s2 clips online... My god, it'd be like George Lucas following a new hope with the clone wars or the last jedi instead of empire strikes back.

I was excited for s2 and was planning on renewing my max subscription in a month or two, but everything I've seen so far is absolute trash. Bella acts like she skimmed the script 5 minutes before "action!" and the script itself seems like one of the failures from the infinite monkeys trying to write Shakespeare (I'm gonna be a dad!)

What the hell happened to this great show!?
DannyDuberstein
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Her main acting chops was the ability to play a tough, mouthy kid. Worked for GOT and season 1 because the characters called for it. Problem is season 2 calls for a different person now, and she just doesn't have it. Dina seems a bit miscast too - too petite and hot.
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DannyDuberstein said:

Her main acting chops was the ability to play a tough, mouthy kid. Worked for GOT and season 1 because the characters called for it. Problem is season 2 calls for a different person now, and she just doesn't have it. Dina seems a bit miscast too - too petite and hot.
I couldn't get over how tiny both of them looked in some of the shots this past episode.
DannyDuberstein
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Right. Maybe they were thinking casting someone even smaller might make Bella look less miscast (ie relative proportion makes Bella look bigger), but instead it all looks kind of ridiculous. Instead it's just a small weird looking girl running around on a death mission with a spicy little chiquita spinner
Ol Jock 99
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This thread has turned into the embodiment of the "well actually meme". Bella is too funny looking. Dina is too hot. Blah blah blah.

Ghost of Bisbee
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TLOU2 deserved better than this, coming from someone who played through the game 7x. It's a shame because I really do think the showrunners missed the mark here.
It is not serious for a game that is very serious and has deep themes.

Production is top notch.
Special effects are top notch.
Directing is probably as good as it can be.

Bella's casting is just totally off for S2. A huge flub.
"I'm gonna be a dad" line was ridiculous, out of place, and not part of the game.
I was one of those who gave her a chance too. We're at the point in the story where if Bella was going to improve, it would have happened by now.

This is one of those situations where the game is superior in every way, so for those who haven't played, it's probably fine.
Last season, that wasn't the case.
easttexasaggie04
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Will this show end after season 2 because the game ended there?
Ghost of Bisbee
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No, a S3 has already been announced. The leading theory is they are splitting the second game into 2 seasons.
DannyDuberstein
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Feeling like 2 seasons to cover 2nd game. Not many episodes left
Diggity
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Ghost of Bisbee said:

TLOU2 deserved better than this, coming from someone who played through the game 7x. It's a shame because I really do think the showrunners missed the mark here.
It is not serious for a game that is very serious and has deep themes.

Production is top notch.
Special effects are top notch.
Directing is probably as good as it can be.

Bella's casting is just totally off for S2. A huge flub.
"I'm gonna be a dad" line was ridiculous, out of place, and not part of the game.
I was one of those who gave her a chance too. We're at the point in the story where if Bella was going to improve, it would have happened by now.

This is one of those situations where the game is superior in every way, so for those who haven't played, it's probably fine.
Last season, that wasn't the case.

so they should have replaced her for Season 2? what is your suggestion here
Ghost of Bisbee
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Honestly yea.
CheeseSndwch
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I just don't understand the angsty teenager vibe in a post apocalyptic setting. It worked when Ellie and Joel could play off each other but now each sarcastic line/quip falls flat. Maybe that's how it is in the game but it's not very enjoyable as a viewer.
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CheeseSndwch said:

I just don't understand the angsty teenager vibe in a post apocalyptic setting. It worked when Ellie and Joel could play off each other but now each sarcastic line/quip falls flat. Maybe that's how it is in the game but it's not very enjoyable as a viewer.
Try raising a couple of them...
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StinkyPinky
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Ghost of Bisbee said:

Honestly yea.
Based on the time gap between the seasons I think they could have and gotten away with it.
Ol Jock 99
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Bella can play 14 or 20 in my opinion. Her character has improved a ton in a 4 episode span--from pissy teen to a young woman having to grow up fast. Sure, you have to suspect disbelieve some, but at least they have her doing BJJ, where a small person can win, rather than simply tanking people.

She's not the hottest looking, but she's doing fine IMHO.
LB12Diamond
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Early morning drinking!! Nice!!
Diggity
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but most everyone seems to agree she was fine for Season 1.

Did we expect the director to just fire her on the spot because they didn't like her take on the role this season?
StinkyPinky
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Diggity said:

but most everyone seems to agree she was fine for Season 1.

Did we expect the director to just fire her on the spot because they didn't like her take on the role this season?
Don't disagree. I don't have any issue with her. Just saying under the circumstance they could have pulled the actor switch off.
Diggity
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possibly. even then....she's got a pretty distinctive look and that would have been quite a curveball.
Gig em G
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I have less of an issue with the actress that plays Ellie than the writing and how they made her character in the show.

The original Ellie was a survivalist badass who took more care of Dina. Now Dina seems like she's almost more competent than the show's Ellie.

And the ending of the last episode might be one of the most cringey scenes I've ever seen in a show. Not to mention just…crap writing. "Im going to be a dad?…" Really? The baby has a Dad. They just wanted to shoehorn that cheesy ass line in…The OG Ellie reacted to the pregnancy news in a much more realistic way, considering the context of what they are going through.




Diggity
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the scene was over the top, but I didn't have a problem with that line.

I took it as her using her sarcastic humor to get through a heavy moment. I don't think she really intends to be a father.
Phrasing
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Diggity said:

the scene was over the top, but I didn't have a problem with that line.

I took it as her using her sarcastic humor to get through a heavy moment. I don't think she really intends to be a father.
The line makes more sense in that context, but myself and apparently 90% of this board didn't read it that way. So if that was the intent, then it was just really bad acting.

I'm not liking Bella as Ellie either this season at all. But there's no way the runners could replace her. The whole Joel dying scene would have fallen flat with someone we've only known for 1 episode watching him die.
StinkyPinky
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Phrasing said:

Diggity said:

the scene was over the top, but I didn't have a problem with that line.

I took it as her using her sarcastic humor to get through a heavy moment. I don't think she really intends to be a father.


I'm not liking Bella as Ellie either this season at all. But there's no way the runners could replace her. The whole Joel dying scene would have fallen flat with someone we've only known for 1 episode watching him die.
This is actually a great point. I tend to agree with this.

Edit: I think they could have still possibly have pulled it off if he died in a later episode and there was time to form an emotional connection with the new actor, but definitely so early in the season it would have been hard to maintain the emotion of that scene.
Gig em G
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Phrasing said:


I'm not liking Bella as Ellie either this season at all.


That's interesting…I haven't considered that. I was just thinking it was more poor writing that was making me not like Ellie much this season. I didn't seem to be bothered as much in season 1, but she's kind of annoying me now. So you think Bella is also just not acting as well, or doesn't fit the character anymore? Maybe that is part of it for me…
johncAG
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Regarding the subreddit posted here, the one posted is essentially the anti game subreddit that sprout up during the games release in 2020. There's another subreddit about the overall series that is more balanced in terms of criticism of the shows and game. It seems we are repeating the same cycle from 2020 with this season
Gig em G
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My bad. I didn't notice the other thread when I posted earlier.
Definitely Not A Cop
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StinkyPinky said:

Phrasing said:

Diggity said:

the scene was over the top, but I didn't have a problem with that line.

I took it as her using her sarcastic humor to get through a heavy moment. I don't think she really intends to be a father.


I'm not liking Bella as Ellie either this season at all. But there's no way the runners could replace her. The whole Joel dying scene would have fallen flat with someone we've only known for 1 episode watching him die.
This is actually a great point. I tend to agree with this.

Edit: I think they could have still possibly have pulled it off if he died in a later episode and there was time to form an emotional connection with the new actor, but definitely so early in the season it would have been hard to maintain the emotion of that scene.



As far as that goes, I think the long time wait between season 1 and two really killed impact anything from this season has tried to do. I had basically forgotten everything from season 1 by the time this season rolled around. I feel like that with a lot of the current tv shows that are doing this two to three year gap between seasons. It's just hard to maintain as much of an emotional connection to the characters.
Diggity
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100% agree.

I couldn't even remember what Joel had done that was upsetting everyone.
TCTTS
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I hate the long wait between seasons as well, but to be fair we would have had season two last year if not for the dual strikes.
Definitely Not A Cop
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I had completely forgotten about that of course. But still, it definitely had an effect.
 
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