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Urban Ag said:My apologies to both of you. Somehow I missed that. I think by that point my mind was racing between memories of stuff going on in my life and the show. My bad.GreasenUSA said:Yeah, you might want to watch the dinner table scene again.Urban Ag said:
Second point. Think it was great that Bill did not even hint at taking his own life afterwards. Hence, Pascal finds the note before the viewer knows it has happened. Frank could no longer burden Bill. But to Bill it was not a burden at all. And in return, Bill would never let Frank know in his last moments that he planned on ending his life as well. Which can also be argued, at that point, was a mercy killing.
Don't apologize, Urban! And thanks so much for sharing your story earlier. But I'm curious, does knowing that he did "tell" Frank change your feelings about the ending?
How convenient. I guess with the popularity of this show, mycologists are like, "this is our moment to try and be famous"
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
Interesting little tidbit…
I had dinner with someone last night who talked to a mutual colleague of ours who works on the show, and that colleague told the person I was having dinner with that the first episode was originally *two* episodes. Austin 2003 was the original pilot, and then the Boston 2023 intro and all that was episode two. For whatever reason, though, they decided to trim each episode a bit, and then combine them into one, long, feature-length episode. I'm assuming so they could introduce Ellie in the pilot and really sell the entire concept in week one vs making the audience wait a week to get to the other main character/2023.
Anyway, I've been wondering why this season is nine episodes, seeing as eight or ten are way more common, and now we know why.
I had dinner with someone last night who talked to a mutual colleague of ours who works on the show, and that colleague told the person I was having dinner with that the first episode was originally *two* episodes. Austin 2003 was the original pilot, and then the Boston 2023 intro and all that was episode two. For whatever reason, though, they decided to trim each episode a bit, and then combine them into one, long, feature-length episode. I'm assuming so they could introduce Ellie in the pilot and really sell the entire concept in week one vs making the audience wait a week to get to the other main character/2023.
Anyway, I've been wondering why this season is nine episodes, seeing as eight or ten are way more common, and now we know why.
TCTTS said:
Interesting little tidbit…
I had dinner with someone last night who talked to a mutual colleague of ours who works on the show, and that colleague told the person I was having dinner with that the first episode was originally *two* episodes. Austin 2003 was the original pilot, and then the Boston 2023 intro and all that was episode two. For whatever reason, though, they decided to trim each episode a bit, and then combine them into one, long, feature-length episode. I'm assuming so they could introduce Ellie in the pilot and really sell the entire concept in week one vs making the audience wait a week to get to the other main character/2023.
Anyway, I've been wondering why this season is nine episodes, seeing as eight or ten are way more common, and now we know why.
The show runners discussed this on the HBO podcast. Originally Ep 1 ended with Joel burning bodies in the pit. They thought that was too bleak and didn't give the viewers a reason to come back. So the sped up the intro of Ellie to give the people something to hang into and come back.
Ah, good to know.
Is there any way the posters with an agenda to make this thread completely about gay stuff could stop trying to shove it in my face?
[When the director is quoting in news stories saying that he had an agenda, it's pretty hard to ignore that. However, this thread is about a specific show, and not the place for a broader discussion of trends in Hollywood -- Staff]
[When the director is quoting in news stories saying that he had an agenda, it's pretty hard to ignore that. However, this thread is about a specific show, and not the place for a broader discussion of trends in Hollywood -- Staff]
As I suspected. And this is the primary complaint I had with that episode. Keep your ideology out of it try to tell a good story.cbr said:
ROTFLMAO;
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/last-of-us-episode-3-nick-offerman-b2272921.html
The director of The Last of Us's groundbreaking third episode has said that he wanted to "trick" straight audiences into watching.
Question for gun guys, what sort of rifle did Joel have that he said there wasn't any ammo around anymore for it?
AR15 of some sort. There would be plenty of ammo for it today, but 2003 (when the world stopped), different story.Definitely Not A Cop said:
Question for gun guys, what sort of rifle did Joel have that he said there wasn't any ammo around anymore for it?
Maybe so. "I think then they might understand that it's all real. It's just the same love."cbr said:
ROTFLMAO;
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/last-of-us-episode-3-nick-offerman-b2272921.html
The director of The Last of Us's groundbreaking third episode has said that he wanted to "trick" straight audiences into watching.
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The issue is some people really don't want to open their minds and get angry when someone tricks them into watching two men with beards kiss.
I don't have an issue with gay people but that doesn't mean I want to watch two dudes, beards or not kissing. It's just not for me.
Lol I can't wait to see CBR's mind explode if/when Ellie's sexuality is portrayed. He's gonna do more 'hollywood agendizing' about the plot of a video game written over a decade ago.
Edit for spoiler JIC - even tho it's not one.
Edit for spoiler JIC - even tho it's not one.
And that's fine. Are you angry about it? If not, then this statement wasn't for you.Nagler said:Quote:
The issue is some people really don't want to open their minds and get angry when someone tricks them into watching two men with beards kiss.
I don't have an issue with gay people but that doesn't mean I want to watch two dudes, beards or not kissing. It's just not for me.
I don't particularly like it, but it doesn't anger or upset me.
I also hate it when people on tv have a plot driven around a miscommunication. But it doesn't anger me.
This looks like a spoiler to me
It was mentioned in Ep. 1 by Marlene. They just haven't shown it yet is what i mean. Plus it doesn't really have any plot impact. It'd be like revealing that Joel is straight lol.BowSowy said:
This looks like a spoiler to me
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Never fail to catch a fish if you use one of these as bait.Saxsoon said:
some real life cordyceps infection of a grasshopper
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Wasn't expecting the unexpected in this episode but I thought it was a damn good episode
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I find it hard to believe Bill and Frank would've lasted the 16 years out there. We saw just one raider attack. They would've come back next time with vehicles, explosives… if someone really wanted their **** I feel like they could've gotten it.
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
give you $3.50 to eat said fish after you catch itFaustus said:Never fail to catch a fish if you use one of these as bait.Saxsoon said:
some real life cordyceps infection of a grasshopper
Imagine if it was man and woman, still same impactful story but with a better ending. They could have had kids who would have cared for them in their dying days. Those kids could have met folks on the radio and had kids of their own and suddenly the tiny town becomes populated again. Instead, the two gay characters meet out their end with nothing to show for it but an open window and a suicide pact. Makes you think.
That's a happier ending for the town, but not a better ending for the show we're watching. If you want that happy ending, watch The Walking Dead.
Just saying that their relationship doesnt extend beyond themselves, it never can and never will. Doesn't that make their attempt pure vanity and selfishness? Instead of reaching out to anyone to take over they just said **** it all. The entire practice and enterprise was wasted entirely. But hey, they were in love so yeah let's just focus on that I guess.
Lol so anyone who doesn't have kids is vain and selfish? Pursuing love and joy in an apocalypse is a 'wasted practice'? Some of y'all i swear...Tibbers said:
Just saying that their relationship doesnt extend beyond themselves, it never can and never will. Doesn't that make their attempt pure vanity and selfishness? Instead of reaching out to anyone to take over they just said **** it all. The entire practice and enterprise was wasted entirely. But hey, they were in love so yeah let's just focus on that I guess.
That was the message of the episode, right? Offerman was a selfish, angry cynic, and loner that was purposeless in his life. Like Joel. He managed to change after meeting Frank and devoted his whole life to taking care of someone who would have died without him. The note he leaves Joel (who shares a lot of similarity with him) imparts how it changed him for the better. He's saying you don't have to be Gandhi and change the world for the better to be a good person. Just find a single person you can take care of and devote yourself to that.
Edit to add: with Ellie's apparent immunity to the fungus, Joel was originally taking care of her so that humanity can survive. The episode is making the point that her immunity isn't why he should care about her. He should care about her because he is her only hope for surviving.
Edit to add: with Ellie's apparent immunity to the fungus, Joel was originally taking care of her so that humanity can survive. The episode is making the point that her immunity isn't why he should care about her. He should care about her because he is her only hope for surviving.
Absolutely they were selfish. Bill hated everyone except his mom until Frank entered his life. He only cared about himself and keeping himself and then alter himself and Frank alive. Frank worked to open him up but from what we saw he barely allowed Joel and Tess to enter. Was all of their work a waste to the betterment of mankind? Yup. Mankind had been cruel to Bill and he wasn't going to help it in return. But the little bit that Frank opened him up, gave him a new purpose and he wanted to pass that purpose on to Joel as he saw similarities in him. Joel reading that letter now has a purpose to help humanity rather than lookout for his own ass and his brother's ass.Tibbers said:
Just saying that their relationship doesnt extend beyond themselves, it never can and never will. Doesn't that make their attempt pure vanity and selfishness? Instead of reaching out to anyone to take over they just said **** it all. The entire practice and enterprise was wasted entirely. But hey, they were in love so yeah let's just focus on that I guess.
In a traditional present-day sense, I can see your point. But in an end-of-the-world dystopian future with fungus zombies? I wouldn't blame anyone for focusing their survival on themselves, with little to no care about anyone else.
That's what makes this episode so moving, in my opinion. Bill would've been totally fine living in his isolation, but it took Frank coming into his life, to accept his loneliness and build a world for the two of them. I think it would have been a massive reach to then expect his character to gain some sort of altruism for the future of the world. The little bit he did develop, despite his wariness, let him leave whatever Joel needed to take care of Tess.
That's what makes this episode so moving, in my opinion. Bill would've been totally fine living in his isolation, but it took Frank coming into his life, to accept his loneliness and build a world for the two of them. I think it would have been a massive reach to then expect his character to gain some sort of altruism for the future of the world. The little bit he did develop, despite his wariness, let him leave whatever Joel needed to take care of Tess.
If you stop responding to him he will slowly starve and leave
Hello kids, back from banned camp. What did i miss?
Please leave your flute at the door...M.C. Swag said:
Hello kids, back from banned camp. What did i miss?
Seriously, let's move the **** on.
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