*** SW: The Last Jedi - FULL SPOILERS BE IN HERE ***

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JuliusCaesarAggie said:

Wouldn't the magnets stick to the bombers as soon as they were released?

Why not launch the bombs from the planet and not risk the bomber crews' lives?


Why not make your own movie that is 100% perfect for you?
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Chipotlemonger said:

JuliusCaesarAggie said:

Wouldn't the magnets stick to the bombers as soon as they were released?

Why not launch the bombs from the planet and not risk the bomber crews' lives?


Why not make your own movie that is 100% perfect for you?

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JuliusCaesarAggie said:

Wouldn't the magnets stick to the bombers as soon as they were released?

Why not launch the bombs from the planet and not risk the bomber crews' lives?


Magnets are not on the bomb, they are used to propel the bomb. Google coilgun or Gauss rifle.

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Chipotlemonger said:

JuliusCaesarAggie said:

Wouldn't the magnets stick to the bombers as soon as they were released?

Why not launch the bombs from the planet and not risk the bomber crews' lives?


Why not make your own movie that is 100% perfect for you?


Dumb post
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bangobango said:

I wasn't going to post this, but since somebody bumped the thread.

Another video on why this movie pissed a lot of us off. It's only five minutes and does a better job explaining my frustration with the movie than my own words.


That covers most of my complaints.
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Except...
JuliusCaesarAggie said:

Wouldn't the magnets stick to the bombers as soon as they were released?

Why not launch the bombs from the planet and not risk the bomber crews' lives?
Why not use B-Wings, which are faster and equipped with missiles and ion cannons? Oh, wait, that's right. Rian had to introduce Rose's sister and have her sacrifice herself to serve the Rose/Finn subplot. Pffft.
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How so?

Do we even know if they had forces on the planet?

His question's premise could be used to critique ANY story or movie EVER created.

"Why didn't they do this, it would've been more effective or easier?!"
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G Martin 87 said:

Except...
JuliusCaesarAggie said:

Wouldn't the magnets stick to the bombers as soon as they were released?

Why not launch the bombs from the planet and not risk the bomber crews' lives?
Why not use B-Wings, which are faster and equipped with missiles and ion cannons? Oh, wait, that's right. Rian had to introduce Rose's sister and have her sacrifice herself to serve the Rose/Finn subplot. Pffft.
I guess the canon answer is "because a StarFortress has > 1000 bombs by itself," but the real answer, in addition to Paige/Rose, is that Star Wars military battles have always had a World War homage to them, and the bombers kept with the theme. Personally that's why I liked the bomber run.
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They should have shown the Y-wings or B-wing do initial attack runs to show their torpedoes not penetrating the Star Destroyers. Could have been attributed to the shields.. forcing them to use the bombers.
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I am SW obsessed (or so I thought), but I can't imagine caring so much about some of this stuff.
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CJS4715 said:

I am SW obsessed (or so I thought), but I can't imagine caring so much about some of this stuff.
Yeah, there are certainly some legitimate complaints to be had over the course of nine movies (JarJar, sand, ewoks, Finn, Rose, force Leia, nothing burger characters, etc) but I really don't get the level of "George Lucas and now Rian Johnson, destroyed my childhood" and I really just glaze over whenever I read the "OMG you can't do that in space, this is stupid" commentary.
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Passed $600 million in domestic box office over the weekend. Now sitting at $604M.

Looks like it is gonna topout about $620-625 million. That will either be 5th or 6th overall and around 40th using adjusted for inflation. A little shy of my $650M prediction.

And worldwide looking like it will end up 7th or 8th but shy of $1.5 billion.



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And with a production budget of $200M that is an immense, yuge, profit margin. Yuge.

It's a literal money printer for Disney. All they have to do is keep these movies palatable and they'll just keep printing that money. Very few industries can produce this kind of nearly guaranteed financial results.

Fanboy: Yeah, yeah, this movie was terribly flawed. I can't believe you allowed Luke to go out this way. I am so......
Disney Exec: <lights cigar with a burning Benjamin> BWAAAHAHAHA......security, remove this crybaby.....BWAAHAHAHAHA

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Urban Ag said:

And with a production budget of $200M that is an immense, yuge, profit margin. Yuge.

It's a literal money printer for Disney. All they have to do is keep these movies palatable and they'll just keep printing that money. Very few industries can produce this kind of nearly guaranteed financial results.

Fanboy: Yeah, yeah, this movie was terribly flawed. I can't believe you allowed Luke to go out this way. I am so......
Disney Exec: <lights cigar with a burning Benjamin> BWAAAHAHAHA......security, remove this crybaby.....BWAAHAHAHAHA



Yes but even I (a defender of TLJ mostly) hope that IX is a monster and so good that it eclipses TFA and tops $1B domestic and $2.8B worldwide.

Let's hope for everyone's sake the epic 9 movie saga ends on the highest possible threshold.

that's gonna be interesting though because....other than possible ghost force appearances there is no possibility of the original 5 main characters being in it.

It's gonna close with the 4 primary new characters carrying it - Kylo, Rey, Po, Finn.

From the originals SW - Luke, Leia (effectively), Han, Vader, Obi-wan all dead. And even Yoda from ESB.

Only C3PO and R2D2 will make appearances in all 9 films (10 including RO) . Only C3PO actor Anthony Daniels will end up actually being in all 9 (10) films as original R2D2 actor died in 2016 also (and only credited as consultant in TFA).



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Quote:

It's gonna close with the 4 primary new characters carrying it - Kylo, Rey, Po, Finn.


Don't forget Rose
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redline248 said:

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It's gonna close with the 4 primary new characters carrying it - Kylo, Rey, Po, Finn.


Don't forget Rose

Actually she's dead..... in my mind she died. I mean look if she was going to save Finn fine. I don't like that either he had a chance for a great sacrifice ending....but she should have died instead. that was literally my thought when she kissed him and collapsed... "well at least she is dead". Then they drag her in and save her life.... ugh....sorry that didn't happen in my version.


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redline248 said:

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It's gonna close with the 4 primary new characters carrying it - Kylo, Rey, Po, Finn.


Don't forget Rose
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I'd like to forget Poe and Finn too.
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redline248 said:

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It's gonna close with the 4 primary new characters carrying it - Kylo, Rey, Po, Finn.


Don't forget Rose


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Relax people, just a joke
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anyways, back to the Knights of Ren....

Will we ever see what Rey's vision was about?

it's probably not the future after TLJ because in her vision, Kylo had his helmet.
It's probably not the night Kylo destroyed the jedi temple, unless he fought Luke, brought the house down on him. Went in for a wardrobe change, then got his buddies together to start the chaos.

Which leaves the vision to be some time after Kylo destroys the Jedi academy but before TFA.... or they may just ignore it completely. which would suck.
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Difficult to see. Always in motion is the future.
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Flashdiaz said:

anyways, back to the Knights of Ren....

Will we ever see what Rey's vision was about?

it's probably not the future after TLJ because in her vision, Kylo had his helmet.
It's probably not the night Kylo destroyed the jedi temple, unless he fought Luke, brought the house down on him. Went in for a wardrobe change, then got his buddies together to start the chaos.

Which leaves the vision to be some time after Kylo destroys the Jedi academy but before TFA.... or they may just ignore it completely. which would suck.


JJ will get back to the KoR for sure. Maybe not that exact scene, but get into who they are. TLJ did drop the nugget that strongly implies at least some of them are Luke's former pupils, right? Because Ben/Kylo was said to have left the destroyed temple with some of them.
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I see the Knights of Ren the Order being used like the inquisitors in Rebels.
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israeliag said:

I see the Knights of Ren the Order being used like the inquisitors in Rebels.


Or how Vader was described in the original ANH novelization, as one of a number of Dark Lords who enforced the Emperor's will.
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I don't see "best picture," or "best screenplay."

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redline248 said:

I don't see "best picture," or "best screenplay."




OK.....what's your point?!?!?!?!!?!


ESB widely considered the best of the SW movies got nominated for 4 AA's also

Visual Effects - Won
Sound - Won
Original Score- Nominated
Art Direction -Set decor - Nominated


TFA was nominated in 5 but did not win any - Editing, Score, Sound Editing, Sound Mixing, Visual Effects.


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Nothing like cramming a movie full of liberal pc bull**** and characters doing stupid **** to pile up a bunch of awards from the Hollywood jackwagons.
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BernArnold said:

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From the originals SW - Luke, Leia (effectively), Han, Vader, Obi-wan all dead. And even Yoda from ESB.



Luke is not confirmed dead.
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cbr said:

Nothing like cramming a movie full of liberal pc bull**** and characters doing stupid **** to pile up a bunch of awards from the Hollywood jackwagons.
yeah, it is not winning any relevant awards.
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cbr said:

Nothing like cramming a movie full of liberal pc bull**** and characters doing stupid **** to pile up a bunch of awards from the Hollywood jackwagons.
Yes, the highly politically motivated categories like score and sound editing.

Geez you're insufferable.
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i have 2 posts here in over 3 weeks, seems like maybe you're a little sensitive, LOL.

fwiw the sounds were good, and the visuals were ok for most of the movie....
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I guess it helps when you only randomly crap on the film with political theories sporadically instead of every 15 minutes?
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SeattleAgJr said:

BernArnold said:

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From the originals SW - Luke, Leia (effectively), Han, Vader, Obi-wan all dead. And even Yoda from ESB.



Luke is not confirmed dead.


Please elaborate
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redline248 said:

SeattleAgJr said:

BernArnold said:

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From the originals SW - Luke, Leia (effectively), Han, Vader, Obi-wan all dead. And even Yoda from ESB.



Luke is not confirmed dead.


Please elaborate
Just stating that we have no confirmation that he is dead.

We saw him disappear after his little trick. That does not mean he is dead.

He is supposed to be a powerful Jedi, and "one with the force". He could have just merged with the force to rest. There is nothing to say he cannot unmerge from the force in Episode IX.

The force is, after all, energy. And this is just conversion of mass to energy and back.

Yes, it is a lame ass fan theory, but it fits with the other ridiculousness of Episode VIII.
I mean, we saw Kylo actually stop a laser/phaser/photon beam of pure energy in Episode VII. This is not much more of a stretch.
 
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