Maximus_Meridius said:What books, exactly? I've never read any Star Wars books, and it's my understanding that they tossed out a lot with TFA.aggiephoenix02 said:
A lot of your questions are answered in the books.
If you really want to know, and aren't just complaining to complain...
coupland boy said:
Watched it this past weekend.
Leia frozen routine had a jump the shark feel to it. I just didn't enjoy it much. Glad some of you did though.
If the last movie was similar to A New Hope then thiss one had a lot of parallels to Empire Strikes Back.
All this has probably already beed said bit I'm not going back to read all the pages of comments.
Maximus_Meridius said:What books, exactly? I've never read any Star Wars books, and it's my understanding that they tossed out a lot with TFA.aggiephoenix02 said:
A lot of your questions are answered in the books.
If you really want to know, and aren't just complaining to complain...
Pretty much all of them are "not good".VanZandt92 said:Maximus_Meridius said:What books, exactly? I've never read any Star Wars books, and it's my understanding that they tossed out a lot with TFA.aggiephoenix02 said:
A lot of your questions are answered in the books.
If you really want to know, and aren't just complaining to complain...
The multiple books I read were not good.
Texags! We win polls!ChiliBeans said:
Rotten Tomatoes audience score has dropped to 49%.
Pretty impressive that the handful of poster here who didn't like it were able to overwhelm a site like RT. Good work, team.
ChiliBeans said:
Rotten Tomatoes audience score has dropped to 49%.
Pretty impressive that the handful of poster here who didn't like it were able to overwhelm a site like RT. Good work, team.
VanZandt92 said:Maximus_Meridius said:What books, exactly? I've never read any Star Wars books, and it's my understanding that they tossed out a lot with TFA.aggiephoenix02 said:
A lot of your questions are answered in the books.
If you really want to know, and aren't just complaining to complain...
The multiple books I read were not good.
SeattleAgJr said:
Hopefully they learned something from this.
SeattleAgJr said:Texags! We win polls!ChiliBeans said:
Rotten Tomatoes audience score has dropped to 49%.
Pretty impressive that the handful of poster here who didn't like it were able to overwhelm a site like RT. Good work, team.
That is about how I would rate it anyways.
I did not enjoy the story, I did not enjoy the characters, I did not enjoy how they disregarded everything that came before.
It was an OK movie on its own. It was a horrible Star Wars movie within the context of the universe.
Meh. Disney made their money, and they are moving on. Hopefully they learned something from this.
Flashdiaz said:
and that's why I think Rey's parents being nobodies and the random little kid with force powers reinforces the idea a force user can come from anywhere, which leads to endless story lines.
Although, that broom kids name is Temiri Blagg which is a bleh name... hopefully he adopts another name if he intends to be badass.
Flashdiaz said:
hopefully he adopts another name if he intends to be badass.
Exactly. Pretty much every single Jedi we've ever known EXCEPT Luke came from "anywhere."bangobango said:Flashdiaz said:
and that's why I think Rey's parents being nobodies and the random little kid with force powers reinforces the idea a force user can come from anywhere, which leads to endless story lines.
Although, that broom kids name is Temiri Blagg which is a bleh name... hopefully he adopts another name if he intends to be badass.
I keep reading this but I cannot figure out for the life of me when it wasn't ever this way?
redline248 said:Exactly. Pretty much every single Jedi we've ever known EXCEPT Luke came from "anywhere."bangobango said:Flashdiaz said:
and that's why I think Rey's parents being nobodies and the random little kid with force powers reinforces the idea a force user can come from anywhere, which leads to endless story lines.
Although, that broom kids name is Temiri Blagg which is a bleh name... hopefully he adopts another name if he intends to be badass.
I keep reading this but I cannot figure out for the life of me when it wasn't ever this way?
i should have bolded REINFORCES.bangobango said:Flashdiaz said:
and that's why I think Rey's parents being nobodies and the random little kid with force powers reinforces the idea a force user can come from anywhere, which leads to endless story lines.
Although, that broom kids name is Temiri Blagg which is a bleh name... hopefully he adopts another name if he intends to be badass.
I keep reading this but I cannot figure out for the life of me when it wasn't ever this way?
Nope.CJS4715 said:
Maybe Snoke is Vader's force daddy.
Yeah, Force-users - even in the EU - were randomly found alot, and it also skipped generations, etc.bangobango said:Flashdiaz said:
and that's why I think Rey's parents being nobodies and the random little kid with force powers reinforces the idea a force user can come from anywhere, which leads to endless story lines.
Although, that broom kids name is Temiri Blagg which is a bleh name... hopefully he adopts another name if he intends to be badass.
I keep reading this but I cannot figure out for the life of me when it wasn't ever this way?
it's better than bringing galactic war over a piece of tail.....I remember reading RotS and got to the part where Anikan 'turned' to the dark side...I was thinking "are you kidding me...that's IT....he's trying to keep his woman alive based off the comments of a KNOW LIAR (Palpatine) saying he knows how to bring back the dead so he kills 1000's.....)Brian Earl Spilner said:
That's pretty good.
Ag Since 83 said:
I have rewritten the prequals in my head over and over, and I think the biggest change I would have made (besides starting episode 1 when Anakin is 19) would be to completely flip the prophecy around. Have the prophecy be the belief of some group of the general public (call them the Church of the Force) but the Jedi know it's false. The Church identifies Anakin as their chosen one and it goes to his head. The Jedi can't talk him out of it. That's what drives his desire for power and his split from the Jedi
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That sequel is Disney/Lucasfilm's current release Star Wars: The Last Jedi. With China now clearly a huge bust for the picture, $1.4 billion in global receipts is a pipe dream, and even $1.3 billion might be a stretch. Which means Episode VIII: The Last Jedi will earn at least $700 million less in global box office revenue, and probably closer to $800 million less, than the $2.07 billion total of Episode VII: The Force Awakens (Rogue One: A Star Wars Story may have immediately preceeded Last Jedi, but it is properly classified as a spin-off, not a sequel, so I didn't include it in this analysis). That's easily a $200 million bigger drop than the previous sequel-to-sequel record holder, Transformers: The Last Knight, which collected nearly $500 million less than Transformers 4's 2014 total of $1.1 billion. The Last Jedi is the new all-time champion of sequel collapses.
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The apologists also claim that $1.2 or $1.3 billion is a huge total, and that on that point alone, The Last Jedimust be deemed a big success. I can't deny that $1.3 billion is a lot of money, but the argument is nevertheless still fallacious in my opinion. It's as if Disney invested a huge amount of money to get Albert Pujols in his prime, and after a 47 home run season, the next year he hit 28. Sure, you could argue that for most players, 28 home runs would be great. But for Albert Pujols in his prime, it stinks. Disney didn't pay hundreds of millions for production costs and marketing to make a movie that will earn nearly 40 percent less than its predecessor.
?width=960Vocal minority of 51%? If more than half of the fans on RT don't like it, yet the score falls above the midrange at 3/5, then it's actually the minority (those that liked it) logging 5/5's that pull it up by giving it a high score (i.e. 5/5) vs. the majority (those that disliked it) pulling it down with an overly negative individual score.BernArnold said:ChiliBeans said:
Rotten Tomatoes audience score has dropped to 49%.
Pretty impressive that the handful of poster here who didn't like it were able to overwhelm a site like RT. Good work, team.
Yeah sure.
Notice it says 49% but below that it says average fan score is 3/5. Thats interesting too. And 90% by critics.
Definitely some vocal minority on RT pushing that low for some reason.
Also I notice that it is holding steady at 7.5/10.0 on IMDB with 100K more voters.
And IMDB is by far the more respected fan vote.
It's doing just fine despite the few naysayers.
BullS.....bangobango said:Quote:
That sequel is Disney/Lucasfilm's current release Star Wars: The Last Jedi. With China now clearly a huge bust for the picture, $1.4 billion in global receipts is a pipe dream, and even $1.3 billion might be a stretch. Which means Episode VIII: The Last Jedi will earn at least $700 million less in global box office revenue, and probably closer to $800 million less, than the $2.07 billion total of Episode VII: The Force Awakens (Rogue One: A Star Wars Story may have immediately preceeded Last Jedi, but it is properly classified as a spin-off, not a sequel, so I didn't include it in this analysis). That's easily a $200 million bigger drop than the previous sequel-to-sequel record holder, Transformers: The Last Knight, which collected nearly $500 million less than Transformers 4's 2014 total of $1.1 billion. The Last Jedi is the new all-time champion of sequel collapses.Quote:
The apologists also claim that $1.2 or $1.3 billion is a huge total, and that on that point alone, The Last Jedimust be deemed a big success. I can't deny that $1.3 billion is a lot of money, but the argument is nevertheless still fallacious in my opinion. It's as if Disney invested a huge amount of money to get Albert Pujols in his prime, and after a 47 home run season, the next year he hit 28. Sure, you could argue that for most players, 28 home runs would be great. But for Albert Pujols in his prime, it stinks. Disney didn't pay hundreds of millions for production costs and marketing to make a movie that will earn nearly 40 percent less than its predecessor.
I don't mind saying that you enjoyed the movie. I don't mind saying you don't understand how so many can hate it so much.
What drives me crazy is some of you acting like this is just a few random nuts on reddit or Texags and everybody else just loves it. Once you get past the huge corporate media conglomerates (that are probably at least partially owned by Disney), the feedback on this movie is almost universally negative.
I've said this several times in this thread, but this was a damaging blow to this franchise, the full repercussions of which will not be known for many years. Perhaps JJ Abrams can pull it out of the fire with the third movie. I certainly hope so.
They're going to have to figure out what makes Star Wars so beloved wasn't just the blaster and the "light swords."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/robcain/2018/01/06/last-jedi-has-set-its-first-box-office-record-biggest-ever-sequel-to-sequel-plunge/#745cfc4c42ee
