I'm just waiting for a petition to come out from fans demanding to see the George Lucas version of TLJ.
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And he can still have Rey. How many people of a certain status marry to keep their family or personal status intact? They don't have to love each other, they just need to have a couple of children and then they can each try to influence their kids to do their bidding or follow their ethos...YouBet said:I'm all for this.Blatant Disregard said:
I hope IX ends with Kylo become supreme leader of the entire galaxy.
Him ultimately winning would be "bold."
I will at least give a few nods to the better parts.
Lots of oohs and aahs to Luke dusting his shoulder off after getting blasted.
The dreadnoughts looked badass.
The red salt planet had very pretty effects.
The Rey / Kylo tag team was fun to watch.
Lots of oohs and aahs to Luke dusting his shoulder off after getting blasted.
The dreadnoughts looked badass.
The red salt planet had very pretty effects.
The Rey / Kylo tag team was fun to watch.
Agree. I got the ewok village for my 5th birthday and it was awesome. Remade it out of wood for my kid 2 years ago.amercer said:Brian Earl Spilner said:
Jedi has Ewoks.
The Ewok Village was the coolest toy EVER. And I will fight anyone who tries to argue.
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Watching TFA again, can never look at the end the same again since we know Luke just flips the saber over his shoulder...way to completely ruin one of the best, and most talked/speculated about scenes in Star Wars history Rian. Dumbass....
bangobango said:
Really liked the close of Shapiro's review:Quote:
Those big things that are right with the film are more important, in many ways, than the things that are wrong with the film. Rian Johnson, the director, didn't play it safe, and that's great. But he did play it safe by having Kylo return to the Dark Side and turning Rey into an avatar of populism. Those are mistakes that will haunt the franchise. And without Luke and Han and the nostalgia factor, can Star Wars carry forward with the same legacy, without just turning into another Avengers series a fun watch that has no real emotional resonance?
Overall, better than The Force Awakens, which doesn't hold up on repeat, and planted seeds that poisoned The Last Jedi, particularly with regard to Kylo Ren. Not as good as Rogue One, and below Return of the Jedi. It's difficult to imagine how Episode IX can remain interesting with a universe this narrowed and a set of compelling characters reduced to a grand total of two: Kylo and Rey.
I disagree where he ranks it. I think this movie is going to make huge, huge problems for this franchise going forward. I think you will see a huge downturn in opening weekend attendance for the next film and I kind of feel sorry for JJ Abrams.
I mean, is anybody excited about where they are going to go with this now?
Rey is already fully realized as a protagonist. She can't really get any more powerful or perfect. She has yet to **** anything up or make any mistakes. She has more wisdom and power than the most powerful Jedi of all time.
They've completely ruined Finn's character. They had a lot of potential with him from the start. A deserter from the First Order was a cool idea and could have really gone some interesting ways, but now I cannot figure out where they are going with him and, unlike at the end of the TFA, I don't care anymore.
Kylo is the big bad. Cool. I think he is by far the most interesting character left, but like Shapiro says, now what? He has killed everyone he wanted to kill and he probably won't or can't kill Rey, so now what? He gets more angry and angsty? He and Hux go back and forth like potluck roommates?
Poe sucks now. Makes nothing but bad decisions. Hard to believe anybody would follow him after he basically got the whole resistance destroyed. And that's if we just completely ignore that he committed open mutiny and should have been executed by any reasonable measure.
Rose ****ing sucks. **** Rose. If they don't kill her off in first ten minutes, then they suck. WTF is the point of Rose, seriously?
I mean, seriously, all this talk and not one person has even speculated about where episode nine will go. There is literally nothing left to speculate about. This *****bag Johnson screwed over Abrams so bad. And Disney signed him up for a trilogy? The fuq?
This absolutely NAILS the key issues i see with it. I dont care about playing fast and loose with space or other nitpicky issues. This post nails several of the fundamental issues with the key characters and what's left to tell in IX.
You're a good StarWars dad, blue stars for you and yours!Sq1dvm said:Agree. I got the ewok village for my 5th birthday and it was awesome. Remade it out of wood for my kid 2 years ago.amercer said:Brian Earl Spilner said:
Jedi has Ewoks.
The Ewok Village was the coolest toy EVER. And I will fight anyone who tries to argue.
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And the trailers before the movie seemed to last an hour and most of the movies looked terrible, that movie with Oprah...yikes.
Back to Star Wars....let's just take a bunch of stuff from the OT and rehash it....
Instead of ice Hoth battle...how about salty Hoth
Instead of Vader teaming up with Luke to kill the emperor...how about Rey and Kylo team up to kill Snoke
Instead of Yoda living like a hermit on degobah training Luke...how about Luke living like a hermit on the island and training Rey.
Instead of heading to mos eisley cantina to find a smuggler/pilot....how about heading to a casino to find a codebreaker...we can even use the same band to play in the background.
Seemed a bit lazy in the writing.
Back to Star Wars....let's just take a bunch of stuff from the OT and rehash it....
Instead of ice Hoth battle...how about salty Hoth
Instead of Vader teaming up with Luke to kill the emperor...how about Rey and Kylo team up to kill Snoke
Instead of Yoda living like a hermit on degobah training Luke...how about Luke living like a hermit on the island and training Rey.
Instead of heading to mos eisley cantina to find a smuggler/pilot....how about heading to a casino to find a codebreaker...we can even use the same band to play in the background.
Seemed a bit lazy in the writing.
Sq1dvm said:Agree. I got the ewok village for my 5th birthday and it was awesome. Remade it out of wood for my kid 2 years ago.amercer said:Brian Earl Spilner said:
Jedi has Ewoks.
The Ewok Village was the coolest toy EVER. And I will fight anyone who tries to argue.
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Remade it for "your kid"...yeah right.
The trailers were awful. Even Jurassic World: Island is Gonna Blow the F Up Because We Cant Figure What the Hell Else to Do
To quote Stephen McGee, "That's Bullcrap."Brian Earl Spilner said:
Wow...
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Should we just let these extinct for millions of years animals just die?
Yes...yes we should...they try and kill us every time we show up....screw em.
Yes...yes we should...they try and kill us every time we show up....screw em.
I don't know what's sadder. Actually putting that plan into motion, or taking false credit for it.
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Taking credit is strange, but putting it into motion would be insane... Especially for the EU, HaHa...Brian Earl Spilner said:
I don't know what's sadder. Actually putting that plan into motion, or taking false credit for it.
That JW trailer was weird. They were either showing the end of the movie or setting us up for dinosaurs swimming/flying to the mainland.
I can't star this post enough. Pretty much matches exactly how I feel.bangobango said:
Really liked the close of Shapiro's review:Quote:
Those big things that are right with the film are more important, in many ways, than the things that are wrong with the film. Rian Johnson, the director, didn't play it safe, and that's great. But he did play it safe by having Kylo return to the Dark Side and turning Rey into an avatar of populism. Those are mistakes that will haunt the franchise. And without Luke and Han and the nostalgia factor, can Star Wars carry forward with the same legacy, without just turning into another Avengers series a fun watch that has no real emotional resonance?
Overall, better than The Force Awakens, which doesn't hold up on repeat, and planted seeds that poisoned The Last Jedi, particularly with regard to Kylo Ren. Not as good as Rogue One, and below Return of the Jedi. It's difficult to imagine how Episode IX can remain interesting with a universe this narrowed and a set of compelling characters reduced to a grand total of two: Kylo and Rey.
I disagree where he ranks it. I think this movie is going to make huge, huge problems for this franchise going forward. I think you will see a huge downturn in opening weekend attendance for the next film and I kind of feel sorry for JJ Abrams.
I mean, is anybody excited about where they are going to go with this now?
Rey is already fully realized as a protagonist. She can't really get any more powerful or perfect. She has yet to **** anything up or make any mistakes. She has more wisdom and power than the most powerful Jedi of all time.
They've completely ruined Finn's character. They had a lot of potential with him from the start. A deserter from the First Order was a cool idea and could have really gone some interesting ways, but now I cannot figure out where they are going with him and, unlike at the end of the TFA, I don't care anymore.
Kylo is the big bad. Cool. I think he is by far the most interesting character left, but like Shapiro says, now what? He has killed everyone he wanted to kill and he probably won't or can't kill Rey, so now what? He gets more angry and angsty? He and Hux go back and forth like potluck roommates?
Poe sucks now. Makes nothing but bad decisions. Hard to believe anybody would follow him after he basically got the whole resistance destroyed. And that's if we just completely ignore that he committed open mutiny and should have been executed by any reasonable measure.
Rose ****ing sucks. **** Rose. If they don't kill her off in first ten minutes, then they suck. WTF is the point of Rose, seriously?
I mean, seriously, all this talk and not one person has even speculated about where episode nine will go. There is literally nothing left to speculate about. This *****bag Johnson screwed over Abrams so bad. And Disney signed him up for a trilogy? The fuq?
I'll go further to say that I'm not against the series being changed up. We all know at some point they needed to move past nostalgia and the original three stars. I'm completely fine with that as Star Wars is a big huge playground with stories that can be told well beyond Luke/Han/Leia and their offspring.
My big issue with TLJ isn't that it's "different", but that essentially all the set up Abrams did in TFA was all for nothing. If they were stand alone films, fine. Instead, this is a trilogy with a connected story, yet Johnson basically tossed out everything. On top of that, as the post above points out, for so many people, there is simply no anticipation for Episode IX outside of maybe wondering how this thing finishes up. This isn't how most of us expected to feel after TLJ.
Maybe it was all a big master plan from the start, but if I had to guess, I imagine Abrams is pretty pissed off with all the interesting story lines he handed to Johnson to work on TLJ, and the ****show that Abrams has been given back to finish up the trilogy.
Whoah
What I think is weird is how they keep letting kids on the island. At some point someone should be like, "nah, kids and dinosaurs together always seem to cause problems to occur."YouBet said:
That JW trailer was weird. They were either showing the end of the movie or setting us up for dinosaurs swimming/flying to the mainland.
No kidding, the trailers were AWFUL! I figured there would be some good ones with such a big release, but boy was I wrong.GoAgs92 said:
And the trailers before the movie seemed to last an hour and most of the movies looked terrible, that movie with Oprah...yikes.
GoAgs92 said:
And the trailers before the movie seemed to last an hour and most of the movies looked terrible, that movie with Oprah...yikes.
Back to Star Wars....let's just take a bunch of stuff from the OT and rehash it....
Instead of ice Hoth battle...how about salty Hoth
Instead of Vader teaming up with Luke to kill the emperor...how about Rey and Kylo team up to kill Snoke
Instead of Yoda living like a hermit on degobah training Luke...how about Luke living like a hermit on the island and training Rey.
Instead of heading to mos eisley cantina to find a smuggler/pilot....how about heading to a casino to find a codebreaker...we can even use the same band to play in the background.
Seemed a bit lazy in the writing.
Yep. Like I said, they took zero to negligible risk. They rehashed things, nothing more. That's one reason the subplots didn't go anywhere. That would be risky.
The only risk was killing off Luke in such a ridiculous manner that people aren't even sure why he's dead.
Cromagnum said:
I wish Mark Hammil had given Rian the double finger when asked to execute this move.
I'm thinking the Prequels were better. One can make the case. Rey and Kylo aside.
Or if he's dead. He might now be able to manifest himself in and out of physical space and some force realm...DannyDuberstein said:
The only risk was killing off Luke in such a ridiculous manner that people aren't even sure why he's dead.
I thought ROTS was better. Biggest issue was Anakin dialogue, but was it really worse than what Rose and Finn were dishing out? Finn/Rose was as cheesy and bad as anything in the prequels outside of JarJar.
Can Luke go bendu?
aggiephoenix02 said:Or if he's dead. He might now be able to manifest himself in and out of physical space and some force realm...DannyDuberstein said:
The only risk was killing off Luke in such a ridiculous manner that people aren't even sure why he's dead.
If Disney needs him for old times sake yeah.
dromo07 said:
Can Luke go bendu?
Rian has never heard of Bendu.
Fml
Bendu? You mean the giant moose thing? Why would Luke want to be that?!?
Those Rotten Tomatoes super reviewers can suck it.
So did Luke's artificial hand disappear as well? I could only see his cloak.
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