Should just rebuild at this point. That lineup looks bad.
***** Official Houston Astros 2024-2025 Offseason Thread *****
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Mathguy64 said:
I have no clue what Cleveland is doing.
First baseman Carlos Santana and the Cleveland Guardians are in agreement on a one-year, $12 million contract, pending physical, sources tell ESPN. The Guardians traded Josh Naylor, and now they bring the 38-year-old Santana back for his third stint with the organization.
— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) December 21, 2024
No kidding... Only net $2m savings
MaxPower said:
Should just rebuild at this point. That lineup looks bad.
That's how they do things... Make the playoffs once, blow it all up
Farmer1906 said:
Unloaded salary.
Gimenez was in year 3 of a 106 M deal
Naylor was going to get ~14 M in arb then walk. Got the comp pick a year early plus a player.
There was a time when their division was so bad and they got 18 games against everyone in it that they could do this and still make the playoffs. That's not true anymore.
1B market pretty much down to Pete Alonso. Probably goes to the Mets, which means the Mariners lose out on musical chairs.
Astros are an OF away from looking pretty good rn
cone said:
Astros are an OF away from looking pretty good rn
Christmas miracle would be unloading pressly and landing hernandez/Santander
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
MAGA
MAGA
cone said:
Astros are an OF away from looking pretty good rn
We kinda are. I won't be shocked if the Yankees, Os, and 'stros end up in a 3 way tie as betting favorites.
cone said:
Astros are an OF away from looking pretty good rn
Our bullpen needs another arm as well.
My biggest worry is we have zero depth and outside of the second half of 2022 we've had bad luck with injuries
tjack16 said:cone said:
Astros are an OF away from looking pretty good rn
Our bullpen needs another arm as well.
My biggest worry is we have zero depth and outside of the second half of 2022 we've had bad luck with injuries
Who does have depth? We get another OF and our depth starts looking pretty good.
JohnnyTexAg1995 said:if serious about Dbacks, yes they can, but not with bregman haha he just lives therejja79 said:
You don't think the DBACKS can contend?
I didn't know he lived here. I watch them so I hope they do.
So. Everyone get your bets down.
Does Bregman sign for MORE or LESS than 6/156? That's a $26 MM AAV
I'm going with LESS years and total value but a higher AAV. 3/92 with an opt out at year 1, 2 and 3. And then he opts out at year 1 and tries again.
Does Bregman sign for MORE or LESS than 6/156? That's a $26 MM AAV
I'm going with LESS years and total value but a higher AAV. 3/92 with an opt out at year 1, 2 and 3. And then he opts out at year 1 and tries again.
Mathguy64 said:
So. Everyone get your bets down.
Does Bregman sign for MORE or LESS than 6/156? That's a $26 MM AAV
I'm going with LESS years and total value but a higher AAV. 3/92 with an opt out at year 1, 2 and 3. And then he opts out at year 1 and tries again.
I'm going 3 years 30M AAV with an opt out each year
Similar to the Snell San Francisco deal or the Correa twins deal
I gotta agree. The Yankees cope is kind of wild.
if the Mets missed out on Soto and got:
— jUSTIN (@metsventpage) December 21, 2024
- a 30 y/o declining pitcher
- a 30 y/o declining outfielder
- a reliever via trade
- a 37 y/o first baseman
- a 35 y/o reliever who's never been good
there would be talks of it being the worst offseason pivot in MLB history, but bc of…
I actually think the Yanks have been wise to avoid Soto and make those moves. Soto already looks out of shape and is pretty meh in the OF. I could see him aging very poorly with that contract.
Mathguy64 said:
So. Everyone get your bets down.
Does Bregman sign for MORE or LESS than 6/156? That's a $26 MM AAV
I'm going with LESS years and total value but a higher AAV. 3/92 with an opt out at year 1, 2 and 3. And then he opts out at year 1 and tries again.
Boras claims he had an offer higher than the Astros.
Is he lying? Guess we'll find out
Nope. He had one at one point in time. Might still be out there but I don't know
MaxPower said:
I actually think the Yanks have been wise to avoid Soto and make those moves. Soto already looks out of shape and is pretty meh in the OF. I could see him aging very poorly with that contract.
I could too on 5 years. But he's special on offense.
I think they overpaid Fried then finished off the roster with okay short term options. The 2024 Yankees would kick the 2025 Yankees ass.
AggiEE said:Mathguy64 said:
So. Everyone get your bets down.
Does Bregman sign for MORE or LESS than 6/156? That's a $26 MM AAV
I'm going with LESS years and total value but a higher AAV. 3/92 with an opt out at year 1, 2 and 3. And then he opts out at year 1 and tries again.
Boras claims he had an offer higher than the Astros.
Is he lying? Guess we'll find out
Boras was, is, and always will be full of ***** But that's his job.
When does Boras start losing the faith of his clients?
I know the guy is a fruit, but what about Joc Pederson as a LH platoon option in the outfield?
He finished the season slashing .281/.392/.531 with an OPS of .923 in 335 at-bats against righties, and racked up 22 home runs in the process.
Is he able to play in the OF or just DH?
He finished the season slashing .281/.392/.531 with an OPS of .923 in 335 at-bats against righties, and racked up 22 home runs in the process.
Is he able to play in the OF or just DH?
there's no way Soto can live up to his contract -- especially past the age of 30
what is the annual WAR or OPS expectation for a hitter making $50 MM per season?
7.0 WAR and .950 OPS is not enough for that much money
needs to be 8.0 WAR and 1.000 OPS minimum -- and very few players outside the steroid era can do that year in and year out
what is the annual WAR or OPS expectation for a hitter making $50 MM per season?
7.0 WAR and .950 OPS is not enough for that much money
needs to be 8.0 WAR and 1.000 OPS minimum -- and very few players outside the steroid era can do that year in and year out
So what's the 'Moneyball' path for the rest of the offseason?
Trade Framber
the 25 best teams since 2000 that did not win the World Series, by fWAR pic.twitter.com/6QV0sRnFc4
— BrooksGate (@Brooks_Gate) December 22, 2024
Luhnow is still a genius
2019 WS loss still haunts me as went to games 1&7...
2019 was the best Astros team ever.
Gets forgotten since they lost, and the scandal broke a month later.
Gets forgotten since they lost, and the scandal broke a month later.
There is some metric out there that was posted on here back in the day showing that the 2019 Astros and the 1927 Yankees were tied as the best team in the history of the game. They were crazy good/great.amercer said:
2019 was the best Astros team ever.
Gets forgotten since they lost, and the scandal broke a month later.
Jesus Luzardo traded to Phillies @ByRobertMurray 1st
— Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) December 22, 2024
Marlins receive Prospects INF Starlyn Caba and OF Emaarion Boyd. Caba is well regarded https://t.co/DN22SXBtwX
— Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) December 22, 2024
W said:
there's no way Soto can live up to his contract -- especially past the age of 30
what is the annual WAR or OPS expectation for a hitter making $50 MM per season?
7.0 WAR and .950 OPS is not enough for that much money
needs to be 8.0 WAR and 1.000 OPS minimum -- and very few players outside the steroid era can do that year in and year out
I think $8,000,000/war is considered a decent amount for a free agent. So he needs to be all-star caliber every year
Cubs were also looking at Luzardo. Should help the Framber market if they decide to trade.
ktownag08 said:
2019 WS loss still haunts me as went to games 1&7...
Right there with you.
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
Marvin said:ktownag08 said:
2019 WS loss still haunts me as went to games 1&7...
Right there with you.
Yep. Game 1 I was just ecstatic to be at my first World Series game ever in person… didn't care that we lost because I thought "well we will win it in 5 or 6 now I guess"
Game 7 was the most sad/mad/disappointed feeling leaving the stadium… it was eerily quiet and then it started raining on me walking to the car. Horrible
tjack16 said:Marvin said:ktownag08 said:
2019 WS loss still haunts me as went to games 1&7...
Right there with you.
Yep. Game 1 I was just ecstatic to be at my first World Series game ever in person… didn't care that we lost because I thought "well we will win it in 5 or 6 now I guess"
Game 7 was the most sad/mad/disappointed feeling leaving the stadium… it was eerily quiet and then it started raining on me walking to the car. Horrible
I remember that sad/quiet feeling like yesterday and will never forget. It started in the 7th inning after Harris gave up the homerun. Stadium just died. We were only down 2, but crowd never got back in it. Sucked the life right out of the stadium. Then the long walk back to the car in the rain was so poetic for the night.
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